>Communism never wor- >China's socialist market economy[17] is the world's second largest economy by nominal GDP,[2][18][19] and the world's largest economy by purchasing power parity according to the IMF,[20] although China's National Bureau of Statistics rejects this claim.
China gave up on socialism and communism in the 1970s.
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Blake Roberts
Wait NOW socialism = communism? Make up your damn mind, hippy
Samuel Baker
If you love China so much why don't you move there?
Lucas Cox
What's their GDP per capita?
Levi Reyes
Sigh.... America sort your shitposter out
Andrew Wood
But I thought that wasn't real communism.
Ryder James
Oh THAT'S the kind of communism you actually want?
I'm down Let's do it.
Jordan Sullivan
THIS
Brody Walker
Around 6500. Even russia has like 14,000 (USD)
Michael Edwards
>all money is made by exporting to capitalist countries
Isaac Perry
China is a right-ring reactionary semi-hereditary aristocracy that chooses a king every few years. all they kept from communism is the name, mao's face, and the total lack of any property rights.
Julian Ortiz
>Right ring
Kek
Thomas Smith
Deng Xiaoping replaced Maoist economic policies with market-based policies over 30 years ago. Look at their GDP during Mao and get back to me.
Ryan Fisher
Don't even Americans get more benefits (foodstamps / health care / free education) than China?
Brody Foster
China isnt in a bubble, it is purely sustained by Capitalist investing and money flowing into the country
where as the USSR was completely shut off and they just ended up collapsing without that support
Jackson Bell
without question. also extenely redpilled on race and the realities of human biodiversity, from the highest levels of government to he lowest rungs of society.
I've lived in China and had normal middle-class girls tell me they would never have dinner with an indian or black person- and they said this in the same casual, matter-of-fact sense as if they were telling me they wouldn't eat dinner will dog shit on their heads.
Julian Jenkins
>China's socialist market... Nope.
Nicholas Wilson
Because they stopped being communist and became a standard cartelist third world country. Which they did because communism wasn't working.
Dominic Ortiz
china's not communist. it's basically a capitalist system, but the government has a new plan every 5 years to meet decided market and production goals. it's a planned capitalist economy. the capitalism is the "chinese influences" in the "communist with chinese influences" description of the chinese government
Ryder Powell
>>Communism never wor-
Get an hour outside of Shanghai or Beijing and your in a typical third world slum.
China is Africa with chopsticks.
Benjamin Carter
there are many parts of mississippi, louisiana, and nw florida where you wouldn't be able to discern china and the usa
Kayden Baker
Yes, outside of big cities it's extremely poor and undeveloped- but there are tons of big cities, not just those two.
Chase Sanders
China is what you get when racist nerds have near total control over a country.
Its beautiful I want to move there
Jace Powell
Not really. Well, if you're talking about niggers, yeah, I'll take rural china over rural coontown. But even the poorest white areas of applachea or the ozarks are worlds ahead of rural china.
Samuel Nelson
I've had a shitload of fun over there.
Evan Bailey
visiting another country is not getting the real experience. you're just taken on a ruse cruise/propaganda tour because of the industry known as (((tourism)))
Austin Bell
marginally ahead, since most people have a house with running water if they want it, but in china some people WAAAY OUT, intentionally living that kind of life, still live in caves (even though they are nice inside)
but quality of life is basically the same in the poor areas i mentioned and rural china. the big cities are okay, but not great, except for the captial ones, and the ones under development are still kind of shit tier, but it's not like you can't live there. they're literally still building, but moving quickly, and a lot of people are happy to be a part of it.
Josiah Hernandez
I've lived there for an entire extended period of time, without any interaction with the tourist industry. Obviously visiting a country is different than being from there- I don't know if it's particularly nice to be Chinese in China, but I know it's incredible be a tall white male in China.
Jackson Murphy
It doesn't sound like you have much accurate knowledge of either rural white america or rural China. i've spent extended time in both and very little of your post rings true to me.
Anthony White
whatever faggot. china is a big place, and so is the usa. i grew up in a poor part of florida
Jonathan Bennett
>state run capitalism is communism because they call it communism
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Adam Nguyen
you don't think it be like it is but it do
look up deng xiaoping
Kayden Flores
>Economy built around exploiting its citizens for cheap labor in order to create the most billionaires of any country sounds like the opposite of communism
>billionaires >communism pick one
Samuel Green
you say exploiting, they say altruism >for a nation to progress a generation must be sacrificed
some quote by the railroad minister, who was eventually executed for corruption
it's a very dynamic place, if you wanna use polite language
and get this through your head, china's not MLCommunist. they were formerly maoist communist, which basically replaced all the ML ideas with maoist ideas.
but ever since deng xiaoping, they've been more and more controlled capitalist. it's in many ways like the wild west
Cameron Myers
and yet they have the largest population in the world
how does that figure?
Caleb Carter
Like 70% of China's air is toxic. China is just toxic. It's kinda a good argument for government regulation with regards to dirty industry. The market didn't sort it out and that's what they ended up with
Kevin Moore
They all die of cancer in their 40s.
Camden Garcia
It doesn't They would obviously die if 70% of their water was toxic
Xavier Mitchell
60s for many, but a lot of them live to be 100 (i know some)
Jack Howard
Not a communist economy but rather a corporativist (fascist) one.
Juan Baker
exactly
for every square km of polluted land in china there's 100 pristine square km's
Eli Evans
>Market economy >Market >economy China is communist only in name at this point.
Jace Sullivan
I have been assured that, like every other form of Communism to ever actually exist, Chinese Communism isn't REAL Communism.
Jordan Jones
Just because their rivers are so polluted that the fish die doesn't mean that their drinking water is polluted.
Lincoln Hall
China has "cancer villages" where they basically stick people and ask them politely to die.
that's because real communism exists only in a book written by a guy with two assholes
Landon Robinson
oh, you mean like a "nursing home"?
Anthony Ramirez
People who live in beijing inhale the equivalent of 40 cigarettes per day worth of pollution
Brayden Long
yeah, they do.
Sebastian Brooks
those blotches are way too big. they should be only around each city, not a contiguous mass.
travel 50km outside of the city and you're in wilderness not dissimilar to far north qld, or the Appalachian mountains.
travel further and you're in pristine territory
Brody Perry
Nope. And I'm not apologizing to the Marxists at the book club at Uni who I poisoned, either. As they're dying of renal failure, I'll be laughing my ass of.
It's a capitalist kleptocracy run by a ruling elite, which ironically is what socialists and communists vilify
Cameron Diaz
>pros public works projects completed very quickly and often >cons minority groups get sad or offended on a daily basis
Michael Russell
Paper tiger. They sell fake garbage and real junk. Their capital markets are complete frauds. Credit is the most massive bubble. Pollution. Animal abuse. No empathy. Not to mention they are Chinese. Eww..
I'm not worried. Pretty funny you niggers. If you are impressed by China I have some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.
>implying you can't get quality made chinese stuff if you pay for it
apple products are made in china, for starters
Gabriel Stewart
Well didn't he make everybody produce steel at the expense of crops, causing millions to die of starvation? Maybe it looks good in the GDP statistics, but it doesn't seem very sustainable.
Josiah White
this comparison is like saying you can't get a good hamburger in america if you've only ever bought a plain hamburger from mcdonalds
Robert Johnson
it wasn't meant to be sustainable. it was a kickstart because it was the only thing they could do
>starve and die >piss off some people but create a foundation for the next 50 years to grow from
Gavin Cook
It was the Great Leap Forward not a marathon He starved a lot of poor peasants to death while setting a foundation for Xiaoping, and he actually increased life expectancy drastically
>All that culture and history destroyed, all that knowledge gone forever, all those civil liberties down the toilet You have been feed lies by butthurt overseas Chinese who lost their land and privilege. As you can clearly read in the picture. Mao brought true equality between the rulers and the ruled. Way better than anything anywhere else. In most U.S states you can lose your job just because your boss doesn't like your face.
The cultural reovlution was all about civil rights, the right to criticize and replace the people in charge. One of the first things Deng did was remove the right to put up big character posters.
Chinese Archaeology advanced in the 60s and 70s with the discovery of the Mawangdui tombs and other historical artifacts. Mao actually encouraged people to read classics.
If the price for that short period of time, where workers and peasants had dignity, is butthurt landlords and children of communist party members, such as June Chang. I am sure the people will gladly accept it.
James Thompson
t's not as if people are worth much in china.
Benjamin Perry
Go live there you socialist parasite
Levi Harris
I'm not even going to comment on your historical revisionism, you've been watching too much CCTV. I'm just going to direct you to modern China, where there's no free press, no free speech, knowledge (especially history) is heavily restricted if the government doesn't agree with it, you have no privacy, no right to own land, no right to elect someone who isn't hand picked and groomed by the CCP, no right to have more than two children, no right to a fair trial, no right to not be detained indefinitely without being charged with a crime, no right to religion, etc etc etc. Every other week China treads on civil liberties with a new law. They're basically run out of big liberties to crush so they satisfy their power lust by implementing crazy new restrictions like you can't stream yourself eating a banana, or you can't make puns
Jordan Richardson
Modern China =/= Maoist China
The Chinese communist party has been trying to cover up Mao's legacy. They want to keep the founding father image, but they don't want to erase his 'burn the elites to the ground message,' because that would undermine the current leadership.
All the problems you mentioned began with Deng. >No right to religion Damn straight, cunt. Religion is shit. Mao was more tolerant of religions than most theocracies.
Ryan Parker
National Socialism was better.
Joseph Robinson
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Dominic Powell
*They want to keep the founding father image, but they want to erase his 'burn the elites to the ground' message, because that would undermine the current leadership.
Liam Fisher
>You have been feed lies by butthurt overseas Chinese who lost their land and privilege. >As you can clearly read in the picture. Mao brought true equality between the rulers and the ruled. Way better than anything anywhere else. In most U.S states you can lose your job just because your boss doesn't like your face. 0/10 If by true equality ou mean starving everybody, then you might be right
Caleb Powell
>China >socialist >I didn't read Marx Capital
Ian Mitchell
Who are you going to trust miners and peasants who lived in that era or overseas Chinese with grudges against Mao? educate yourself
Ethan Ortiz
>i-its not real communism and socialismwhen its working out better than most of the (((democratic))) countries
Christian Brooks
>is what jewish mainstream media keeps telling me
Jaxon Watson
It isn't as they have state owned but not run corporations.
Essentially a modern blend of capitalism and mercantilism.
Tyler Morales
But they would with white peopl?
Jaxon Evans
Real communism is only possible when capitalist class, capital and therefore explorttion are eradicate.
Hired labor=exploitation. There is no way around this. t Marx