The Great Wall

So, our great leader labeled Obamacare a complete disaster and unaffordable. Instead of keeping current health care for millions of Americans who wouldn't have it otherwise, he wants to spend $25 billion on a wall and $750 million a year to maintain it.

Also, the wall wouldn't do shit to keep out drugs and guns. Let me guess, Trump has a plan to fill all the tunnels under our border and all the people who arrive via plane that overstay their visa?

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The Great Wall. It sounds so.. majestical.. so grand.. so presidential.. so great.

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rather have a wall that millions of leeches on free healthcare.

Man, the next eight years are going to be spectacular.

Fuck yeah! The USA will be awesome again!

I don't care if we pay for it as long as we earmark mexican goods tarriffs to reimburse

Why dont we as Sup Forums, as Trump supporters, have the initiative to rid our countries and the world of this evil known as BLM, hatred towards whites, globalists, sexual violence towards us by our own women and so on and so on?

Its because we dont have cohesion and unity between us, which is what they want. When we are pursuing pleasure, when we have mental security that we fall asleep in, when we have our ambition or egotism and we feel rewarded for being pat on the back by blacks we dont have this kind of cohesion and initiative, which is necessary. Without this initiative and its resulting movement of cohesion and necessary action amongst us we are inevitably fucked. It may be 4 years, it may be 30, but if we dont fuck these people when we have the chance, we are invariably fucked.

We must rid these people. Fuck em, they deserve to die. I think most of us can agree on that.

But when we try to one-up each other, when we are arguing amongst ourselves and vetting each other (for example throwing rednecks under the bus while feeling proud to be pat on the back by blacks) we're fucking our whole race. That is not intelligence.

We need to fuck these people and fuck them hard.. We dont have time for cuckservatives.

P.S. Those black people patting you on the back are laughing at you behind your back.. we all know this. Lets stop lying to ourselves and fuck these people hard.

>$750 million a year to maintain it.
Thats about $2.35 per person per year.. Well worth it.

fucking libtard all of a sudden cares about spending after odumbo doubles the national debt

They forgot the part where Mexico reimburses is when it is finnished

Nice, I'm okay with my taxes keeping those dirty spics from coming in. Fuck healthcare, I'm not paying for anchor babies and googles

>Let me guess, Trump has a plan to fill all the tunnels under our border

My god, it'll be like those videos of people filling ants nests with molten aluminium.

OP isn't just a fag. He's a moron, too.

Did you think he was handing the bill to Mexico and asking them to pay? No... the payment comes in the form of taxes, tariffs and fees. When we renegotiate various trade deals to get our fair shake, there will be more than enough of an adjustment in things our way to pay for the wall.

But you knew that. Unless you're an actual moron, you knew this was the case. Just like you surely knew all the free swag like free health care and free tuition the dems were talking about were never free.

The wall is the dumbest fucking thing ever and my tax payer dollars aren't going up to pay for this shit.

>fucking libtard all of a sudden cares about spending after odumbo doubles the national debt

He didn't double it. He put on the debt the two illegal wars Bush had spent on a credit card. That's why it "appeared" like it doubled.

This. It's like CNN likes not reporting news accurately. It's like it's...inauthentic news.

Sounds like some fake news you fucking CTR Shill desu

>not realizing this will hurt american people as well.
>not realising that everyone foots the bill regardless of tariffs, "taxes" (who are you taxing, the american people?), and fees.

how can you be this retarded? also when you negotiate trade deals, the whole idea is to help everyone and maintain peace & open trade. not to try to fuck by "making them pay"

once again THEY WONT PAY FOR IT, in the end, you will pay for it AND the prices of products will go up such as air conditioning supplies, food products, etc. anything that comes from mexico and you tariff. THIS WILL HURT YOU.

Why should we have to debate your complete misunderstanding of the situtaion? It's not our fault that the MSM convinced morons like you that Trump was going to walk into Mexico and grab money out of Jorge's hand.

he said a long time ago he'd use the money we give mexico in aid, just take that much away from them

we'll probably still end up giving them money anyways because we're massive cucks like that

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>but g-guys i wanted to pay for this wall all along... I knew he meant that (I) would pay for the bill!! I swear!! When he said mexico will i knew he meant me!!! really!!!

That's some nice concern trolling there faggot.
Just because you inb4 doesn't mean it isn't CTR/shilling/fake news.

>prices of products will go up

and so will our wages

Literally the opposite of reality.
>Two illegal wars.
First of all, the Iraq war was not illegal (hence why no sanctions against the US). I don't know what other war you're referring to since the only two other wars we've had in the last 10 years were Obama's Syria/Libya Wars. No, the debt doubled because Obama purposely gave away America's wealth to shitskin nations. This has been fully documented so there is no use arguing against it.

>Arab intellectuals

one step closer to the wall pham

I'll head down to Mexico and build it myself for free if needed

>Literally the opposite of reality.

Literally first thing I did was google Obama war on budget.

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/161/end-the-abuse-of-supplemental-budgets-for-war/

the money has been allocated for years and Mexico will reimburse, shahada nigger.

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where'd you get this information? wages won't go up because of tariffs. In fact, theres a better chance they'll go down due to less jobs being available from higher prices and more people flooding the market and are willing to accept lower pay.

Your standard of living will definitely go down.

>I don't know what other war you're referring to
are all Sup Forums posters literally retarded or what?

he's talking about Afghanistan you fuckin mong. Remember that whole 9/11 thing?

also not illegal, it was one of the most justifiable wars in the history of mankind

how will they reimburse? did you sign a reimbursable contract with them? Or is this your grand scheme of destroying standard of living for both countries

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Don't you have some beheading to you ahmed?

That fucking headline. I remember people were dreaming to read these in 2016

Can't wait untill you oil runs out. The Persian empire is going to conquer you and Israel

Here you go retard. Pic related.

yeah, just trying to get angry for the big night

>$750 million a year to maintain it.
>$750 million
can one man be this retarded

eh, I think in the long-run it'll be a good thing that the oil will run out. That won't be for a long time though

Did you not pay attention during the election? There are plenty of ways to take money from Mexico, he was never planning on asking their president for a cheque.

I didn't seem to catch that part. Enlighten me as to how mexico will pay without screwing over america?

I'm so glad I voted for Trump.
Libtards will be shitting their pants for the next four years and I will be laughing every step of the way.
How does it feel knowing you threw away your vote by voting for the loser?

>politifact

LMAO

750m a year is far less than immigrants cost. Tunnels can easily be detected and become unfeasible if your wall goes deep enough. Overstayed visas can be easily detected and the police will arrest them eventually.

Catch up yourself then sand nigger, I'm not spoon feeding a retarded inbred mud skin faggot.

WTF are you doing here Abu Nawwaf?

I don't want to accidently use MSM fake news websites though.

I'm not sure, just enjoying conversation

Ahhh yes. The average, misinformed, we'll fed trump supporter. Loves the taste of right wing lies

there's a screenshot on trumps website that lists the ways mexico could pay for the wall but I can't find it. basically it says that through cutting aid in the form of mexican immigrants sending money back to their families in Mexico as a form of welfare, and the fact that illegal immigration costs california alone like 20 billion dollars, the wall could be easily paid for.

?? Prices of products have gone up way more than wages have gone up lmfao. "Bbbbut it'll be different this time I swear!"

Do you shills realize that one of the reasons we backed Trump is his pragmatism? He's not an ideologue. He's all about action and getting results.

Trump found a trick to bypass lengthy congressional debate on authorizing construction of the wall. It means we'll be paying for it upfront, but it also means he'll be able to accelerate his plans. You dumb shills all said he'd never build the wall and his plans are already in fucking overdrive.

>Thinking a wall costs that much to maintain
Are you that retarded? do you think China was shelling out an equivalent to that much every year for theirs?

why would that help America? you realise that they did a service for the US by building or harvesting crops and earned that money. When you buy a Chinese made good, does it go back into the american economy?

Then whether or not they send the money abroad doesn't matter unless your entire economy is based on that. It might fluctuate the exchange rate but once again it's not nearly as big as you believe because the US doesn't have a fixed money supply.

That argument is irrational

> not realizing the US gains little benefit from trade with Mexico

Artificial price increases go straight into corporate pockets and contribute to the growing divide between then1% and everyone else. The middle class pays the price. Cheaper goods but fewer jobs, lower paying jobs (when inflation is taken into consideration, the middle class is paying more to live than they were 40+ years ago), etc.

Will the cost of certain things go up? Sure... but many of these things are luxuries with stupid price gouging, a yway.. like sneakers with NBA player names on them. The nation and, in particular, the working middle class will fare better.

>$25 billion on a wall and $750 million a year
That's peanuts compared to what we spend on other things. Dishonest!

maybe he'll also let border patrol do their jobs and not tell them to let illegals in and escort them to the nearest city where they get aid and all the benefits they want like king half breed has done

You need to be in a project management department. It's not like they just go and paint the walls once in a while or fill in a block of cement.

They hire labor, hire inspectors, etc. it's alot that goes into it.

have you seen the great wall of china? they don't maintain it at all and it looks like absolute horse shit

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>the Iraq wars were not illegal hence no sanctions against the US

oh damn. I fucking love Americans. They post shit like this, and then they look around their trailer park waste land. Multiple families living on minimum wage, literally 1 paycheck away from being evicted. Their nation, one assassination, one murder away from civil war.

Your whole country is in free fall because of the Iraq-Afghanistan war but your delusion is 10 miles in and you still have the audacity to defend the war because of some false sense of national pride.

I'll never understand it.

You do realize that even though we are gonna pay for it initially that mexico will pay for it in the long run through tariffs or trade pressure right?

Oh wait you get all your news from CNN, I forgot.

@CTR105902088

>CNN
>Fake new

She's my waifu and I wanna make the fuck to her huge ass my father raped me.

>responding seriously to an obvious shitposter

Just search CNN fallout 4 memes

Can you explain to me what "artificial price increase" is happening that has to do with mexico? I'm genuinely curious because I haven't heard or read anything about it.

Also, the working class wont fare better. Your standard of living has gone up, so now of course, more is needed to live in the current society. Every one needs a cell phone, computer, etc. That statistic can be manipulated easily.

As for the jobs, that is an area that you can't really know for sure what is happening. If you decided to have those jobs from Mexico come back, prices will go higher. But, will the wages be a living wage? I don't believe it. It's almost as if it'll just even out and you guys will accept that the standard of living has went down but you saved a couple hundred people a job and made the prices higher for eveyrone else.

>Misinformed
Unless you have some reliable studies to back your counterpoint, his assertion seems to match up with the articles over the years I have see . As far as I'm aware (as an outsider and a /biz/nessman) the US has been going downhill, with deficit increasing. As a good point to this though, the defecit has increased relatively linearly with the introduction of certain new policies from Obama such as Obamacare.

With the wall, it will be a one time payment, and from the money they save from illegals (police, deportation etcetc) it should be a good investment.

Also when mapping land for a large scale wall, such as the one proposed, land survey will be taken, which will naturally find any underground tunnels (Natuaral or not) that will need to be filled in to keep the structure stable

Obama reduced the deficit, you're simply wrong.

Heh I don't even want a wall, I hope they don't build it. I just want them to actually enforce the law and send every single illegal immigrant back.