Capitlism a shit.
Debate me..
Communism Thread
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Hunter Cook
What? Why is no one replying?
Nathaniel White
I guess you don't have any arguments, as usual XD
Connor Ward
No but seriously I thought you guys couldn't resist debating a communist..... Scared?
Austin Allen
fuck it I'm deleting this thread. I have better things to do
David Kelly
wait how do you do that?
Jayden Myers
here's a (you)
>Why dont you use capitalism as a tool and form companies where you split all profits to workers. For example why don't you start a farm or agriculture or something i mean sure you still have to pay taxes but hey atleast you won't starve
Henry Ross
working hard doesnt imply doing a good job, i think somalia, and south africa show that
Carson Cooper
>this thread's current existance
Ethan Williams
Wait till people come you impacient fuck.
Chase Hall
>Debate me..
Try to refute pic related
Charles Parker
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Jordan Taylor
>when you are your own enemy so you holocaust yourself in a country-wide scale
Carter Johnson
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Landon Richardson
We don't live in a capitalistic society.
Communism was based on the false premise that ancient societies had no individual ownership or property and that everything was shared. Modern archaeology has proven this false.
Communists please go.
Matthew Davis
Communists should share theyre home with refugges and also all of theire money, becuase helping opressed people
Luke Miller
Nobody said capitalism defined success as hard work. What a stupid fucking argument, and a poor straw man.
Let me define success under a capitalist system: Hard work, intelligence, and/or luck. Shy of a MASSIVE boon of a single factor, you typically need a minimum of two.
However, just because you work hard, doesn't mean your labor is being used effectively to provide society with something that it wants. It's hard work to spend all day digging holes and filling them back in, but it doesn't produce anything society wants.
Ditto for intelligence. Intelligence helps, but if you don't utilize it in a way to produce something that society wants, it's worthless. You can have a 150 IQ, and sit around smoking weed all day, and still offer nothing worthwhile.
It's honestly like you didn't even try.
Jason Nelson
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Andrew Allen
And every cock sucking faggot on leftypol would be too, since cum guzzling is hard work. My dog has better arguments.
Jason Johnson
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Leo Gray
>tfw you sperg out because no one took the bait
Samuel Jones
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Levi Sanchez
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Evan Long
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Andrew Foster
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Jace Long
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Dylan Price
So do you just create a new thread every time you get BTFO and expect everyone to forget about the last one?
James Thomas
tell us about your special snowflake capitalism
Charles Morgan
Capitalism doesn't reward hard work. It rewards work that produces things that other people value. Labour is not inherently valuable, it's value is determined by the market based on productivity, risk, difficulty and specialization of the work, etc.
Chase Ross
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Jason Cruz
another one
Wyatt Richardson
explain advertising, dipshit. it produces nothing
Oliver Cruz
what? is there an argument here?
LOL Don't you see the hypocracy? If you can't make $$$$ with hard work than what's the point of working hard? Check your mate.
what? no argument?
another strawman. I guess I can't debate against feudilism because the king is who keeps the bread on the table!
>holocaust
>famine
>choose one
give me a source
Explain to me why I'm not succesful then?
Hudson Peterson
I don't like capitalism as a pure system, but I think you're autistic for thinking capitalism is what we live in now and is the source of all your problems.
Try again leftypol.
Aaron Lee
>labor is not valuable
cool. stop bitching about people who don't get a job then.
Tyler Thompson
>African women
>working hard
Luke Kelly
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Tyler Nguyen
Capitalism rewards intelligence.
Robert James
>the state is controlled by capitalists
>not capitalism
you can only pick one
Christopher Sullivan
I would that add ingenuity and innovation matter as well
Ian Walker
it's a simple question,why don't you go out and try make a mini-communist society instead of shitposting about how great communism is when it hasn't even been tried.
Carson King
can you stop posting memes and address my point?
Kayden Murphy
>hard work equals productivity
Time for that meme to die.
Dominic Richardson
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Bentley Jones
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Nathaniel Lopez
And what's your point, sunshine?
Owen Clark
>shitthatneverhappened.png
Christian Turner
If people in Africa worked hard, then the entire continent wouldn't be an utter shithole.
Ian Parker
>shit that was implemented wrong is the real example of something
autism
Hunter Gonzalez
Elaborate how they are memes when you dismiss them for addressing your point?
Ryder Williams
why don't you adress my question then?
Austin Gutierrez
>If you can't make $$$$ with hard work than what's the point of working hard? Check your mate.
you tell me if i dont make money in a sector i just get a new job which provides me with money, nevertheless communism forces people to do shitty jobs that lead no were and get a stone to eat
Eli Peterson
we did, using memes. communism sucks a fat cock, except under near perfect circumstances where everyone buys in and leaders aren't corrupt.
Grayson Miller
>can you stop posting memes and address my point?
this fucking guy
Kayden Cruz
And if communism rewarded hard work, every country would be communist (and successful at it).
Daniel Brown
>posts meme of dictatorship
potato
Daniel Gomez
But you are right, why would i want to debate you??? Stupid american
Ian Murphy
Advertising is an investment to get more people to buy your shit.
Angel Carter
Yeah guys if I work hard mowing the lawn with a spoon I should be payed a lot :^)
Isaiah Garcia
Communism is a Jewish invention
James Miller
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Nicholas Sanders
>Explain to me why I'm not successful then?
How should I know? I know nothing about you, or what you do.
Presuming you are unsuccessful, I would hazard a guess that you are either lazy, stupid, unlucky, or some combination of the three.
Ian Ramirez
you forgot the part about how the entire history of the CIA is overthrowing democratically elected leftist governments
Caleb Wood
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Gabriel Russell
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Connor Phillips
Every system based on money is flawed. Money is a scam. We need a new way to structure our society.
Isaiah Robinson
>communism is so retarded it can get BTFO by a negro.
Ryder Bell
>t. Turkroach
Liam Nelson
"sunshine". huh, that made feel funny. Can you say more nice things to me please?
Dylan Bell
Let's say I get hired to do a job building a house.
Instead, I dismantle the neighbors house brick by brick with my bare hands.
I am a hard worker, but I'm also retarded.
Part of the "hard work" in capitalism is determining what people want in order to provide a good or service to meet that need. Just because you can't figure out STEP 1. Of capitalism, doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Camden Richardson
>I would that add ingenuity and innovation matter as well.
I would consider that a boon of intelligence, with a moderate amount of hard work.
Christopher Williams
then explain the state sponsored pogroms in the soviet union and stalin's hatred of jews, you dumbass
Christopher Wood
If Africa had decent governments and labor laws you might have a point.
Samuel Clark
Since I'm bored:
Labor in and of itself is not hard work.
Hard work is doing what others are unwilling and or unable to do.
The woman who stays in her garden a little longer than the others every day to care for her vegetables will have a better harvest and can trade that for a little more wealth.
Unless of course the tribe shares all the bounty equally. Then they will all go home at the same time. Why do more than anyone else?
Ian Lopez
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Liam Moore
>paying slaves
literally wat
Brandon Cox
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Tyler Miller
people in venezuela worked hard it got them nowere because of communism
Connor Green
africa is taken advantage of by foreign corporations and u.s. backed puppet dictatorships.
there are still african countries that pay taxes to france and other european countries. try the fuck again
Anthony Watson
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Blake Harris
Keyword: invention
Nathan Bell
why do people think capitalism is supposed to reward hard work?? did they learn this somewhere??
Michael Jackson
>fair elections exist in capitalism
ahahahaha
Carter Thompson
>venezuela
oh you mean the CIA snakeball?
Easton Collins
Nice straw man Jackass.
Labour is valued on value of it produce (the marginal value added by the last unit, to be precise). Capitalism rewards efficiency. 'Hard work' is just a regurgitated form of saying this.
Cooper Collins
>hard work
Capitalism is about providing value where there is demand. I make good money and hardly ever work "hard". Stay retarded and poor.
Christian King
That picture doesn't even make sense you retard.
It's almost like you are a capitalist manufacturing shit arguments
Oliver Walker
but your ideology is fucking meme-tier m8
Elijah Turner
democracy
did you not know the USSR also influenced countries?
Nathaniel Walker
>every women
You can tell a groid made this.
Nathaniel Sanchez
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Mason Diaz
>look at all of these ebin socialist revolutions that actually never effected anything and even if they had they would have inevitably devolved into totalitarianism as every communist society which suddenly become not real communism as soon as they collapse
Michael Edwards
Advertisers are paid by firms that sell products. These firms pay advertisers because they are able to effectively increase sales, providing a valuable service to the firm. They do this in many ways, of variable efficacy, but in the main, advertising serves to make many people aware of a product's existence than would otherwise.
I'm not an ancap buddy, I would never argue that capitalism always produces just outcomes. You asked why African labourers aren't millionaires under capitalism, which is a fatuous argument, and I responded. If you want someone foaming at the mouth to defend capitalism, you'll have to give someone else a (you).
Liam Fisher
good
Joshua Sanchez
>I do enough work for just me or my loved ones to survive from why isn't people not benefitting from it giving me money?
Don't you feel stupid?
Jonathan Bell
>there are still african countries that pay taxes to france and other european countries. try the fuck again
what the fuck are you on about?
There is no wealth to tax.
Christopher Bennett
"Self-hating" Jew Bobby Fischer
Adam Cook
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Andrew Green
In Babylonia:
"The dead were buried in vaults, a few were cremated and their remains were preserved in urns. The dead body was not embalmed, but professional mourners washed and perfumed it, clad it presentably, painted its cheeks, darkened its eyelids, put rings upon its fingers, and provided it with a change of linen."
"Wooden coffins also appear in the 2000 BCE range along with personal possessions buried with the dead. As so many cairns were looted through the centuries, whatever may have been interred in burial has long ago been carried away from them. More modest graves which held the dead in coffins or sarcophagi were more often overlooked by looters and so their contents remain better preserved."
Our Oriental Heritage by Will Durant
Viking warriors, for example, were also found buried with their weapons, suggesting individual ownership or significance of such items.
i.rcahms.gov.uk
canmore.org.uk
Parker Walker
>anti-semitic autocrats rule russia under feudalism
>SUDDENLY JEWS
so i can't tell if you're being racist against jews or acknowledging ethnicity by way of the mother which is also racist for a group of people who didn't even believe in god...
en.wikipedia.org