Why the Mediterranean man needs to go his own way

Mediterraneans should distance themselves from whites as soon as humanly possible.

Most importantly, because the most defining characteristic of this race is progressivism. Should we continue to hold any association with them, they are liable to drag our race down with them. We all know the Germans have already tried as much with any who have objected to their self-loathing and self-destructive policies.

Secondly, these are impotent allies who are useless in the present and forthcoming resistance to leftism. They can add nothing to this resistance.

Thirdly, they have spent centuries lying about our history and our forefathers, attempting to deprive us of our rightful racial inheritance, claiming the accomplishments of our ancestors for themselves like base thieves and Afrocentrists. Remember, they will try to tear us down in order to build themselves up. They have done so in the past, they do so on Sup Forums, and they will do so in the future.

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Fourthly, whiteness is a political dead end. What actually works is ethno-cultural and religious identity, and the proof of this is to be found in Poland. We can extand our hands in fellowship between one another as Mediterranean brothers on the basis of our historical, cultural Roman ancestry and our Catholic identity, whether real or cultural, but this honour should not be paid to the Northern European outsiders who have no Roman ancestry and who have rejected and spat upon their Catholic identity and upon Christendom in favour of the worship of Mammon.

Finally, let it not be forgotten that these people will claim that you are white and call you their brothers only when it is convenient to their own interests. When it is not convenient, they will say you are not white. In light of this, any Mediterranean who calls himself white suffers from an absence of pride and a sort of Stockholm syndrome in which he is content to relegate himself to a lower caste within the white race if only to feel brotherhood with those who hate and denigrate him. This behaviour is unworthy of Mediterraneans and is utterly pathetic.

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I agree, we must strengthen the ties with our Latin brothers and be more sophisticated in our identity.

>canada

Yes, I think a new paradigm is necessary.

You say that yet you live in Canada. Kek.

For the moment, yes. And?

WRONG

Not "progressivism"

The great trait of the Roman empire was their excellent skills into MELTING CULTURES and SUBDUE ME to the res publica's laws.

Don't get me wrong, they were not like modern Canada, they did the OPPOSITE!

They said: you cna worhsip what fucking god you want, speak the fucking language you want, have the fucking culture you want AS LONG AS YOU SUBDUE TO THE CENTRAL RULING!


Ergo: you put your gods in our melting-pot pantheon, you follow roman rule, you respect our authority, you put your imperial/roman citizenship OVER your local citizenship.

Now europe is doing the OPPOSITE, its letting people bring their own cultures and systems inside our and it doesnt enforce OUR RULES.

And thats how you get sharia and fucked up shit like that.

Fuck, Decio was fucking right. Kill all the jews, the christians and the muslims who don't fucking accept the Roman standards.

KILL ALL THE FUCKERS WHO DON'T ACCEPT OUR SYSTEM!

Kill the eternal jew, the aeternal german barbarian, the aeternal slav, the aeternal christian.

KILL EM ALL!

MAKE THE RES PUBLICA GREAT AGAIN!

WHY DID U HAVE TO DIE SO YOUNG FLAVIUS CLAUDIUS IULIANUS AUGUSTUS? WHY????

good thread. the civilizing races don't need snow nigger or steppe nigger help.

FUCK YOUR "catholic roots" YOU FILTHY ATHEIST!
THERE'S ONLY ONE TRUE RELIGION: THE RELIGION OF OUR FOREFATHERS!

MAKE THE MOS MAIORUM GREAT AGAIN!

WE NEED YOU IULIANUS! WE FUCKING NEED YOU! COME BACK PLEASE!

Daily reminder that Roman culture is the opposite of Christian "culture"

Christians and jews and Muslims are the same: they all LEECHED on to GREATER MORE DEVELOPED CULTURES like the greco-roman and the persian-egyptian ones. They always STOLE other civilization's achievements and claimed as their own.

Fuck that.

Fuck "christendom". Christendom was SHIT untill they stole Greco-roman knowledge from Constantinople.

Christianity is a fucking plague, like judaism and islam.

We inherited your line as you fell into decline. Latin is a thing because of our love for you.

How is it going to emerge and take form?
What structure? How?

*THEM NOT ME YOU FUCKING RETARDS

The Romans didn't "decline". They were pushed bakc into the EASTERN EMPIRE by filthy barbarians like you Saxon bastards.

And then the fucking Muslim barbarians attacked on the other side.

Fuck you, you aeternal anglo-saxon barbarian.

We needed more walls to keep your kind out of Britannia. 2 were not enough.

GET THE FUCK OFF THIS BOARD YOU KIKE WARLOCK

YOUR SORCERY WILL NOT DIVIDE THE WHITE MASTER RACE

Agreed, OP is a high-level of jew

FUCKING LEAF

>How is it going to emerge and take form?
>What structure? How?
I think it's already emerging on Sup Forums without any leading on anyone's part. People usually refer to them as D&C threads, but what they actually are are people noticing and speaking about the legitimate and actual differences between Europeans, as well as the real hostility. I think the fact that these have been downplayed more recently with notions of pan-Europeanism is the real aberration and the artificial unity which has been imposed on Europe by pan-Europeanists will inevitably fail precisely because they are artificial.

See pic here I should just say from now on at the outset that Americans and Northern Europeans are not welcome in these threads. You contribute nothing and, frankly, this thread has nothing to do with you anyway.

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We haven't done anything for a thousand years or so. As much as I hate those pig-nosed vermin, the krauts won. We were a damn fine thorn in their side in WWII, and we'll continue to steal their women, but most of us are just lethargic fags.

Why must you make such a thread at an inopportune time? It's 01:00 here, and 02:00 in Italy.

I made one earlier but no one replied. It's going to be a daily, I think.

noob

NO YOU FUCK OFF!

STOP TRYING TO EXPLOIT GRAECO-ROMAN CULTURE FOR YOUR FUCKING GERMANIC-BARBARIC RETARDED NATIONALISTIC IDEOLOGIES!

ROME WAS IMPERIALISTIC! NOT NATIONALISTIC!

THE JEWS WERE NATIONALISTS! AND THEY GOT MASSACRED RIGHTLY BY TITUS AND VESPASIAN!

THE GERMANS WERE NATIONALISTIC BARBARIANS CUNTS! AND THE ROMANS FOUGHT EM OFF FOR CENTURIES!

FUCK YOU AETERNAL GERMANS!

STOP EXPLOITING OUR CULTURE FOR YOUR FILTHY NARRATIVE!

>implying italians have ever done shit in their sorry existence
>implying the romans wouldn't just enslave you fat greasy fuckers

Well this thread went to shit

A FUCKING LEAF

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>We wuz romans and shiet

Get off your computer, it's anglo saxon cultural appropriation!

Most because people who are not Mediterranean are throwing a shitfit about something that has nothing to do with them. Unfortunate, really.

And I always see this same leaf posting the same things, I would bet that you are like half Mediterranean at best.

Roman culture: imperialist culture, the res public over anything else, civil-religion that is part of politics and can't be divided from it, valuing people for their capacity as a CITIZEN, equal CHANCE to get places, no race divide, no stupid sexual dogma, no stupid tribal attitude, art is valued and encouraged

Germanic barbarians: tribalistic cunts that are obsessed with race, war and religion. Flled with dogmas and stupid rules, they value COMPETITION over anything, they ar ehighly divided and don't accept a common culture/rules, they are obsessed with silly religions, they don't understand what citizenship is and they value kinship and bloodties more than civil ties. They don't understand art and they are always causing violence.

NOW, HOW ARE THESE 2 "CULTURES" COMPATIBLE?


Fuck no, stop trying to hijack greco-roman culture, you filthy aeternal germans. Go back to your fucking forest villages.

Its clear you don't know shit about italy nor about the roman empire.

Also, how is that related to anything I said?

My analysis arrived at the very same conclusion, though there are certain groups interfering in the debate with questionable agendas. This topic has proven to be a most interesting one anyhow.

Since you are thinking of repeating this thread daily if need be, what result are you expecting until you are satisfied? Are you wanting to advance the story, so to speak?

THIS!

YOU FUCKING NORTHERNERS NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!

>nothing to do with them
How can you even be this stupid. You just said they should separate. Separate from whom? THE FUCKING PEOPLE YOU SAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

>Leaf divide and concur

You are right, only the strongest culture can survive. Also pay debts to Germany

Implying that the math behind ANYTHING we discovered in the last 2000 years was not graeco-roman derived ;-)

Implying the whole western culture is NOT based on greco-roman knowledge, implying the scientific system is not greco-roman

Cool story bro!

I guess that a barbarian living in a mud hut in Germany is the real reason why we got PCs today!

I have always wondered with the germn/norducks are more prone to leftism and socialism.

mario, quit succumbing to jew sorcery, you know god damned well that your glory days are over, the romans were savage in many ways. we all were at some point.

the point to get is that the longer we snap at each other like faggots, the easier it is for sand niggers and kikes to destroy our civilization

get the fuck over yourself you greasy son of a bitch

Implying that barbarians didn't steal greco-roman culture to survive ,-)

Ever heard about the Roman-barbaric kingdoms?

;-)

>Since you are thinking of repeating this thread daily if need be, what result are you expecting until you are satisfied?
Just more discussion. This is only the third or fourth time I've made the thread and this is the one that's gotten the most replies so far. It doesn't have to be who makes the thread, either. Actually, it might be better that someone like you does it because otherwise it just devolves into >A FUCKING LEAF thread.

>Are you wanting to advance the story, so to speak?
That would be useful. I genuinely want a new paradigm because I do believe that "whiteness" is a complete dead end politically and is possibly dangerous because of how easily white identity can be managed by subversives. Ethno-cultural identity is real and can weather much greater storms than bullshit like "whiteness" IMO.

Yes, and you have no say in the matter so why are you here? Do you see Mediterraneans storming into Nordic threads telling your people that you have no right to decide how to define yourselves? No. So why are you here doing that to us?

>Muh Jews were nationalist

Haha nice try Muhammad, or should I say (((Goldberg))). Jews promoting Christianity helped destroy Rome.

Canada isn't even in europe.

>Get off your computer, it's anglo saxon cultural appropriation!

>Federico Faggin (born December 1, 1941 in Vicenza), is an Italian physicist, inventor and entrepreneur, widely known for designing the first commercial microprocessor. He led the 4004 (MCS-4) project and the design group during the first five years of Intel's microprocessor effort. Most importantly, Faggin created in 1968, while working at Fairchild Semiconductor, the self-aligned MOS silicon gate technology that made possible dynamic memories, non-volatile memories, CCD image sensors, and the microprocessor. He was co-founder, with Ralph Ungermann, and CEO of Zilog, the first company solely dedicated to microprocessors. He was also co-founder and CEO of Cygnet Technologies and of Synaptics.

I'm not speaking as a Canadian but thanks for bump.

Eu tenho a dupla cidadania, paneleiro.

The differenc ebetween graeco-roman culture and your shitty germanic pagan stuff is that WE actually don't need to build "empires and reichs" to show "how long our dick is".

Graeco roman culture lives nad THRIVES and always did because its INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR to your germanic tribal shit.

And the PROOF of it is that even filthy barbarians had to EXPLOIT ROMAN CULTURE to develope. EVERYONE adopted it, because its SUPERIOR to your own.

But you don't really grasp it...and thats why u keep going back to stupid shit like nationalism and religion.


And EVERY TIME YOU DO you end up FAILING HARD!

Meanwhile, why you kill yourselves and make crumbling short-lived empires founded on VIOLENCE, the hellenistic-roman culture survived for 3000 years.

Cheers barbarian. Go back to hunting.

Forest villages? Yes, please!
I saw those in Italy aswell. Glad to see we can can relate somewhere

im a 2nd generation italian, im not a german whatsoever, so nice straw man you retard

your argument is completely irrelevant and perhaps you're yourself a kike shill

Jews werent nationalists?

How?

Explain, don't jsut claim a retarded thing and hope I won't counter it.

Jews were fucking nationalistics. Their nation was deeply linked to their religion.

That's why Vespasian had to destroy their fucking temple.

And now, youa re tyring to say that CHRISTIANITY a fucking jew-made religion is SOMEHOW linked to greco-roman culture? AHAHAHA LAUGHABLE!

>n
2nd generation. Meaning you don't know SHIT about Roman culture, or the mediterranean ahahah

>plying that the math behind ANYTHING we discovered in the last 2000 years was not graeco-roman derived ;-)

Implying graeco-roman mathematics where not Egyptian derived ;-)

>Implying the whole western culture is NOT based on greco-roman knowledge, implying the scientific system is not greco-roman

Implying greco-roman culture and science is not based of middle eastern knowledge.

Implying after 2k years of race mixing you're still the same.

meds are trash in relation to anglo saxon.

>Don't understand (have 0 knowledge of) how climate and location effect populations.

Fuck Mexicans.

>accosts me for being german or protecting german interests

>b-but you dont know histry lul

Honestly I do not think most people here want to tell you how to live your lives, everybody here believes in national sovereignty and the right to self determination for all. The problem here is that threads like yours are dividing whites,look for example at the Trump presidency in the US and the brexit referendum, many people from all different nationalities were supportive of these things

Didn't the roman empire suddenly have a long period of peace, after destroying judea?

You don't get it hans..don't you?

Germanic nationalism is the OPPOSITE of greco-roman culture.

YOu keep acting EDGY but NONE OF YOU tried to DENY what I am saying.

ANSWER ME: how is greco-roman culture linked to christian ethno-nationalism?

HOW? Its the fucking opposite.

Actually, I do see that.. Every day.

It can be compared to women deciding they are not human and it doesn't affect men. because they are not female.

idk why you think you are saying anything new. The thought in Europe already is not about whiteness outside of its usefulness as an indicator. The thought is ethno-cultural as you say although with obvious solidarity with other Europeans. If you think you are going to revive intra-European warfare that occurred out of economic and technology realities then YOUR theory is itself a dead-end. The highest development of the thought is European solidarity not white nationalism or WE WUZ VIKINGS/ROMANS.

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No you retard. Im not talking about "the numbers".

Im tlakign about our scientific method, I'm tlaking about shit you probably don't know.

I get it, you are a barbarian..you don't understand.

If you opened a book, you would know that the whole scientific mindset and the BASIS on which western culture is built is actually derived from Classical Greece and Roman Europe.

Bakc then they developed the MIND TOOLS on which everything else was built.

But you wouldn't understand what I am talking about..you don't know philosophy, you don't know history.

You enjoy mathematics?
>youtube.com/watch?v=OX12aOh9brw
Enjoy, that's how they used to teach it in the 50s

>A leaf telling Mediterraneans how to define themselves.

Fuck off.

Dude stop claiming the accomplishments of greeks

Not really..plenty of barbarians and ethno nationalist had to be massacred in Spain, Germnay, Britain etc...thats why si silly to compare roman culture and modern ethno-nationalism.

Its two OPPOSITE world-views.

Im tired of ethno nationalists exploiting a culture they don't understand.

You care about natioanlity and race and religion? GOOD! But don't tell ME what MY CULTURE is about! Because you don't know it!

>muh kill la kill

Light a joint.

Should you all be meeting up with Mongolia in the "countries that used to matter" club?

You're right nothing else to say

luigi, please go find your brother and beat the faggot out of him, he's overdosed on kike propaganda and making us all look like shit

This post is 100% spot on, it's wasted on this board tbf

Im nto claiming ANYTHING you frozen retard.

Im EXPLAINING TO YOU HOW YOU ARE GETTING GRECO-ROMAN CULTURE WRONG!

Thats typical of ethno-nationalsit retards..YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT "who's better" "who owns this or that"

THATS NOT WHAT GRECO-ROMAN CULTURE THINKS!

GRECO ROMANS SEE KNOWLEDGE AS A VALUE! AS A THING THAT IS HELPIGN THE COMMUNITY! THE CITIZENS! THE RES PUBLICA!

Not as a fucking ethno-nationalist race at "who is better" or "who invented this"

YOu are no different than a nigge rthat claims he owns shit ..hwo would you even "own" a fucking philosophical concept????


Fuck you, you don't understand what I am talking about.

>us

No, fuck off.

Way to ignore everything I said.

> our scientific method

Greeks are Italians are not the same. As Nordic people and English people are not.

MIND TOOLS (philosophy) weren't invented by greeks, but Aristotle did a hell of a good job.

>If you opened a book, you would know that the whole scientific mindset and the BASIS on which western culture is built is actually derived from Classical Greece and Roman Europe.

Almost everything in history is derived from further down the line.

You're probably washed out trash. Get over yourself.

A bit hypocrite, right?

WE WUZ GREEKS AND SHIEEET

Like an afro centrist, your roman empire would not have done jack shit without the greeks

>Honestly I do not think most people here want to tell you how to live your lives
I can tell you that's bullshit because when anyone mentions anything like what's being discussed in this thread you have 20 or more people coming out of the woodwork to shout them down with >MUH D&C. This thread alone is proof. You have just done this yourself. The fact that you have done this indicates, to me, that you don't like what's being proposed and are instead trying to redirect the discussion to an avenue which is more amenable to your own political interests, which are apparently of a pan-Europeanist bent.

And that is the extent of the argument against this so far: "D&C".

>The problem here is that threads like yours are dividing whites,
And like I said in the OP, we are white only when it's convenient to [your] people. I like how threads on Sup Forums are believed to be an egregious attack against "white unity" while people seem to have no problem with or don't want to address the fact that Northern Europeans, for the past 200 years or more, have been producing literature and media which has explicitly divided Europeans into castes. Usually castes where Mediterraneans are placed somewhere below Northern Europeans, as it happens. You are very quick to condemn what I have proposed without wondering why I have proposed it.

"sorry, i can't light a joint because our fellow ethno-nationalists obsessed with dogma and rules think that joints are "evil and degenerate" and despise pleasure for the body!"

Daily rmeinder that germanic "culture" is fucking despicable and its opposite to greco-roman culture.

A roman would ahve taken the joint, lighted it for the civic gods and smoked it.

A german barbarian would ahve started shouting like a monkey and would ahve started a religious war to purge the "degenerates" who smoked joints.

I NEVER CLAIMED THAT ITALIANS ARE GREEKS! GODDAMIT YOU ARE RETARDED!

GRECO-ROMAN CULTURE IS NOT ETHNO-CENTRIC! THE EMPIRE DIDNT GAVE A SHIT WHERE U WERE FORM!

YOU RETARD!

CULTURE IS NOT EARNED AT BIRTH! CULTURE IS GAINED WITH STUDY AND RESEARCH!

That's what I mean when I say that YOU ethno-nationalist will NEVER understand greco-roman culture.

YOu just use it to CLAIM their achievements.

YOu don't know shit about the ACTUAL culture.

>mfw this entire thread

I NEVER CLAIMED ANYTHING!

YOU ARE THE ONES OBSESSED WITH CLAIMING SHIT!

CULTURE IS NOT ABOUT CLAIMING SHIT!

good post

Can confirm. Wouldn't want to bother the neighbours though

>be white
>have brown hair
>think it makes you a Med
You're a Canadian nigger get over yourself.

Nigger culture is nearly entirely based on claiming shit. (Bikes in particular)

>which are apparently of a pan-Europeanist bent.

Not really

You don't know what you're talking about and this is a lazy attempt at trying to discard everything that has been said.

AMERICANS AND NORTHERN EUROPEANS OUT!

Apparently so because pan-Europeanism is the only logical end to "unity".

I agree...and that why they are barbarians..like the germans..the only difference is that germans are GOOD at stealing shit..like they steal entire countries!...

Still they are forest niggers.

Retard, there's no such thing as germanic culture.
Nationalsocialism was american cargo cult for most aspects that we nowadays associate with nazis like manifest destiny/racial segregation/eugenic sterilization were pioneered by americans first.
Merkelism is just like an anime con with rows of cosplayers in this case about the washington consensus/IMF policies towards south america, "based" reagan for example gave the amnesty for literally millions of mexicans and put the basis for the demolition of the welfare state with racebaiting about black welfare queens.
Don't talk to me or my son about "german culture" ever again.

Stop.

We will no longer be divided. We are all white, we are all European. Nothing will get done by dividing ourselves into subgroups, to be methodically subjugated one after the other in little pockets. We must unite under our goals and dreams, rather than historical grudges or simple cowardice.

If you wish to aid, do so. we care not who you are as long as we can agree on the same goals, of the saving of the human race by bringing back our own self determination. We must tear down the Judea regime, and open a new future for all. From there we can decide whether we still want to divide ourselves, or whether we will unite under the newfound determination of our unified power.

just look at how shit anglos and other "master race" whites are at maintaining civilizations.

the poster boy for anglo supremacy, "great britain" was "great" for about 100 years and now they have nothing compared to med civilizations that have lasted for THOUSANDS of years

Nordcucks CAN'T compete so they have to shill and call anybody who discredits their WE WUZ PAN-EURO movement kikes.

fucking kek

>I NEVER CLAIMED THAT ITALIANS ARE GREEKS! GODDAMIT YOU ARE RETARDED!

You keep saying greco-roman, but the greeks did your ground work. As middle easterners did for greek. As Italy did for anglo saxons.

>GRECO-ROMAN CULTURE IS NOT ETHNO-CENTRIC! THE EMPIRE DIDNT GAVE A SHIT WHERE U WERE FORM!

Ye, I guess, because England was part of the roman empire they were just as much a part of it.

>CULTURE IS NOT EARNED AT BIRTH! CULTURE IS GAINED WITH STUDY AND RESEARCH!

>That's what I mean when I say that YOU ethno-nationalist will NEVER understand greco-roman culture.

>YOu just use it to CLAIM their achievements.

>YOu don't know shit about the ACTUAL culture.


Clown, the greatest culture ever created was by the anglo saxons. The american constitution is the finest writing of national government and law ever created.

I like how you ignored everything else he said in his post

upvoted

>We are all white
nope, the very meaning of white isn't fixed, it changed through our history and it's gonna change again

Idiot, Im talkign about those retards in the first comments putting the head of an ancient roman near a viking and a germanic guy..as if those cultures where similar in ANY WAY!


Im talking about CULTURES as PHILOSOPHICAL COMPLEX SYSTEMS, not about your modern day conspiracy theories.

>med civilizations that have lasted for THOUSANDS of years
lol

Romans were not fuckign "white"

You could be roman with ANY FUCKING SKIN COLOUR!

Citizenship was based on VALUES!

YOu were roman if you shared those VALUES, RIGHTS AND DUTIES!

No one gave a fuck about your fucking skin colour. Fuck your ethnocentric tribalistic mindset.