Can somebody here explain to me how this is NOT socialism?

Can somebody here explain to me how this is NOT socialism?

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Taxes can be levied for the general welfare and security of the nation.

You trumpees are awfully quiet. Can't admit you got conned by an obese orange internet troll?

What you've just described is socialism. I asked how is it NOT socialism.

It is, it can be used for good too.

It is, so what?

Borrowing money to reclaim later from Mexico is not Socialism.
Explain how borrowing money is socialism, you made the charge.

Horseshit headline Mexico will pay later. Trump will fuck them with a tariff or shred NAFTA to pieces. They are fucked. This is sending a message that Trump and GOP will get things done and fast.

he's not going to get the money from mexico you morons. God you people are stupid for supporting Trump.

>he'll shred NAFTA to pieces

Don't be ridiculous. I understand it's a terrible piece of legislation, but to shred it to pieces would be to spark trade wars all over the world. Do you want to pay $15/gallon for gas? Me either.

>Can somebody here explain to me how this is NOT socialism?

Even under minarchism, defending the border is one of the government's few non-negotiable obligations. This requires taxation, and is not socialism.

You people are literally describing socialism and say it's not socialism. Now this is entertainment

Yeah good luck explaining how it's not. It's irrefutable. The private shareholding central banks are socialistic too. The entire economy is. But only for zionism. And worthless fiat interest payments. Is it a good use of resources? No. Why does he keep ignoring his own use of foreigners and their factories. His no taxes. Their, "we hate ethics committees". And Kansas or whomever tried to get rid of them and starved themselves. It'll be chaotic and nothing else. Only assholes whom nobody like, put up walls

>thinking gasoline prices are tied to stolen Mexican manufacturing jobs

At most you will pay more for you produce that is it.

Inb4 muh Biblical wall nonarguments. Isaiah 40:17.

Because they're not handing workers control of the means of production.

Yeah leafs don't need walls. They let all the third world trash in and pay for school and Healthcare. Canada is such a cucked country. Kill yourself

This bait is so shit tier I'm not even bothering to use a bait pic.

But with Hillary we would get no wall...

It's not government control of means of production. Even in a libertarian country, border control is a function of the state. You dumb shill.

even a mises austrian will tell you that levying and using taxes isn't socialism

The wall isn't happening at all, obviously. They're going to change it and change it until it's just increased border patrol.

First time hearing about taxes?

There is no redistribution of wealth based on class.

You fucking dumb nigger.

Suspend economic aid to Mexico equal to the cost of the wall.
Tax all wire transfers from the U.S. to Mexico.
There are many ways.

Who will clean our toilets?

You realize that that money will be used (theoretically) to PAY workers to build the wall? Taking money and redistributing it to working class = socialism

Socialism is when the government subsidizes the economy. Building a wall is national defense.

but it's government spending....
it's socialism.....
drimpfkins btfo!!..

>Can somebody here explain to me how this is NOT socialism?

Easy.
>Socialism
>a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

This is terrible bait. OP is a faggot.

If it secures the nation's border, does that make it national socialism?

ITT: Trumpees describing socialism and claiming it's not socialism

>cut nigger welfare
>pay for wall

National defense from what exactly? Cheap immigrant labor?

Oh honey, its Nationalistic Socialism :^)

The government is going to take our money no matter what, might as well use if for something useful instead of giving it to niggers.

The downfall of western civilization is not "cheap" user

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>DELUSIONAL
>MANCHILDREN

So the military is socialism? You fucking moron

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Rand Paul just OWNED Trump, you
DELUSIONAL
MANCHILD

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Shut up, faggot swede, you have no fucking clue what reality is anymore.
Don't come to this fucking website anymore, or I'll call your local police department.

>ctl+f means of production
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I mean, I guess it's better than I expected, but that doesn't mean it isn't still disappointing.

You're fools if you don't realize this is his trump card for re-election. If the dems cockblock The Wall then he will push all the blame for future terror attacks and what not on them. It's a win-win situation for Trump but not for the voters.

Hey I think you got the wrong door, the leaf block is two doors down.

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That literally has NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POINT, does it?

Can you answer my point or are you too fucking stupid to do so?

Well I mean if you consider this specifically to be socialism then a government even funding a military is also socialism, so at that point your argument is government=socialism. Perhaps a valid one, but then you are an anarchist if you are against it.

Humans are social beings. They have societies with goals.

What is your goal?

How about we just start deporting illegals? Pro tip, check the kitchens of restaurants, factories and schools. There are plenty of them and ICE doesn't do shit. Fuck the wall. They dig tunnels all the damn time.

i thought about that as well, but what is the wall has a deep enough foundation maybe about 10 or 15 feet below ground. you think mexicans will dig deeper than that for tunnels?

A good way to go about pushing them out would be installing legislation that harshly punishes those who hire them -- fines and jail-time depending on the circumstances.

But, I doubt such shit would ever pass, knowing the amount of bleeding-heart idiots are in this country.

Nobody is seizing any means of production

>"waaah, people aren't responding to my shit bait"