What went wrong in these two countries after the fall of communism...

What went wrong in these two countries after the fall of communism? It seems like the rest of the Eastern bloc developed quite well, however Romania and Bulgaria still lag behind the rest.
>inb4 "gypsies XD"

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They always lagged behind. It was just more noticeable after the fall of communism.

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Let's be honest here, the only ethnic groups that got shit done in what was Austria- Hungary was Germans and Hungarians, the rest are just niggers.

gypsies and state controlled by jews

who the fuck said anything about cuckstria-hungary?

It has nothing to do with gommunism: both were under Ottoman influence for hundreds of years.

Well parts of what was Austria-Hungary became eastern bloc countries

But isn't it true that before World War Two both countries had relatvaley successful monarchical governments and were industrializing rapidly?

croatia and slovakia? lmfao

Ukraine and Moldova are fucked up too

Ukraine had stuff going for it but they fucked it up big time

Moldova was always a shit hole

Romania is full of idiots and will never have hope

Bulgaria has too much Turk amixture which affects a significant part of their population which don't allow them to progress

Back then they still had German minorities, Germans get shit done, Bulgarians and Romanians? Not so much.

Bosnia, Croatia, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary

It's true, but they were stll backwards as hell. Bulgaria had a decent military, but that's all. Pretty much all Romania exported were grains and oil, like a nigger country. Oil ran out a few decades after WWII.

Right, but in comparison to the rest of Eastern Europe it was pretty much similar, nowadays other Eastern European countries have surpassed these two

>Bulgaria has too much Turk amixture which affects a significant part of their population which don't allow them to progress
retarded autist turklet i would love to stomp your faggot head and give you brain damage

>Back then they still had German minorities
wrong

61% of Romanians say they were better off under Ceausescu than they are today.
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bulgaria is a mafia state, the mafia runs the country and steals from the people, that's why we're behind

Well I don't know about Bulgaria but Romania had a lot of Germans back then, their monarchy was from a German line

When I studied in Denmark, I had a romanian flatmate, who was a good friend of mine. He basically said that Romania is a piece of shit country that is full of degenerates and corruption. He described such shit

>VIP nightclubs where you pay 1000 euros for the exclusive table
>Church figureheads who drive ferraris and fuck escorts
>Gypsies who cut a shipwreck in the Black Sea in half just to sell it for scrap metal
>Gypsies who stole romanian national monument for scrap metal
>Bucarest mayor decided to build a huge cathedral in the city, despite the people being poor as fuck
>Loads and loads of corruption

basically, they have seriously fucked up and I don't know why. Anyway, that romanian guy said to me that Romania is full of degenerates and he never wants to go back there ever again.

Is it not true? I'm not calling all Bulgarians Turks but let's be honest, your country isn't completely pure.

Don't you have a gypsy political party and a Turkish party? Those things hold you back.

Also I fucked a beautiful Bulgarian girl once, she was great. Props on your women

>Bulgaria not Westernized

Good. The Bulgarian Female Choir needs to stay Bulgarian, pure!

>Is it not true?
lmfao little fucking aspie we have nothing to do with turks genetically, they only influence they left was some loanwords

we killed most turks that lived here

What are you talking about? I was talking about Germans not Turks.
>Bulgarian education

what's wrong with Romania? sure maybe their only notable exports are ak variants but they seem to have a great thing going on.

wrong reply

>population of 7 million
>800,000 Turks
>800,000 Romani
>pure

HAHAHAHAHA

>t. 60%er

Communism was the best thing that happened to romania.
t. sex tourist

1. there is a lot of corruption
2. throughout our history the West and Russia have took turns to fuck us in the ass, Britain and France were supporting the Ottomans until the very end
3. EU allows anyone to leave and in return gives us money from Germany to pay a German company to build a stadium in the forest and the refugee funds are to build more accommodation, not for the fence

>corruption

name one (1) country that is not corrupt on any level

Corruption perception index rank united states as a very uncorrupt country.

You do know some countries have a lot more corruption than others right

You should include the African tier shithole pf Moldova too

I love to visit Bulgaria. Sofia is quite developed but the airport is shit. Soon after leaving Sofia it's very rural and lots of very shit houses and stuff, stray dogs. You can tell it's a poor place but generally the people are nice and it has a laid back low stress feel. Corruption and bad police is a real problem I think. Bulgaria also has great free wifi everywhere.

hows serbia, bosnia, croatia in comparison to those two?

Well Croatia is better but we all know why former Yugoslavia is shit tier

Croatia is fine, can confirm. Full of tourist, Dalmatia and Istra regions of Croatia are rich as fuck.

>shit tier
Tfw most American tourists are met are really nice.

I said Croatia is better I meant the rest of former Yugoslavia, unless of course Bosnia is secretly a metropolitan paradise and I've been lied to my entire life

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Went to Bosnia few times. Its full of muzzies though, friend told me they were not allowed to drink on NYE. So lol.

no we dont, tell us

What are the Yugoslav wars?

lol

yeah like 20 years ago ...

croatia is fine can confirm
didnt see any signs of war (tourist areas of course)

so croatia is doin better than bulgaria and romania, eventhough the fought a war and joined the eu later?

A..a..are you retarded. Sure corruption exists in every country, but the amounts vary, it might not be a huge problem in one place but it can be drastic in another.

>sure maybe their only notable exports are ak variants
that's bulgaria

Well the war wrecked the states just as hey we're emerging from communism in a very fragile time, the war in Bosnia pretty much destroyed the entire country where as in Slovenia and Croatia conflict was based in Serb majority regions. The wars destroyed Serbian economy and pretty much ensured they wudnt reciev help from Europe. It takes a long time to recover from war especially vey destructive ones.

You should see Moldova. Now that's a shithole, much worse than Romania. The whole fucking place needs to get nuked.

all i know is bulgarian women are more beautiful than romanians and i think bulgaria is more civilized? i mean the people are more civilized in bulgaria, who had been to both countries can confirm this?

Moldova was part of the USSR so it kinda makes sense, on another note are u the same user from the memes Irl thread?

still alot of germans in Transylvania, which is why its the most serious part of that country. Honestly most romanians are balkan-slavic-kraut mixed breeds who live a comfortable life in a rhetorical and moralistic society in a country where food falls from the trees, so they very much have just as little justification to work hard or be civilized as niggers do.
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>and i think bulgaria is more civilized
no

wrong, theres more variance in romania (bigger population).
honestly romanians and bulgarians look the same in some regions.

what i actually wanna hear:

croatia, bosnia, serbia are doin better (eventhough war etc) than bulgaria and romania because austrians domesticated them

>nians and i think bulgaria is more civilized? i mean the people are more civilized in bulgaria, who had been to both countries can confirm this?
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I don't post memes, they are degenerate.

Well I mean that wud be wrong because Bosnia and Serbia weren't under Austrian rule very long although about 1/3 of Romania was, and that's the best part of the country

What's the relation between Serbia and Austria? Bulgaria had an Austrian monarch leading them.

>this assblasted bulgarian

wtf? you're approaching leaf, greek, or dare I say poo levels of anger

half of serbia (north) was part of the austrian empire/a-h for 200 years

wouldnt be surprised if its the most developed part

As far as I know for my city, Zadar, it is standing here since before Christ. Whole city is also built on roman empire remains

sorry mane, wasr all the way

Bulgaria has had exodus of most of it's capable people, like maybe 25% live in other countries.

Kek, Probably, but war fucked that region over pretty bad, Austrian influence or not

I can speak for Bulgaria.
>toppling of communist regime of early 90s left a significantly power vacuum to fill in place of the communists
>shock therapy of the economy leaves many native Bulgarians poor, as their supposed great communist exports(tm) turned out to be low quality shit as dictated by the world markets
>The Bulgarians are poor, therefore they migrate to much more established economies, ie the west
>Bulgarians become fewer and fewer
>T*rkroaches in the border notice, send agents to Turkify and muslimize Bulgaria
>more T*rks and Muslims = slow down of development.
>decades pass, And development is slowing everfurther
>current prime minister in ostavka(tm) is a Germany agent, and indirectly follows ankaras will

The most important possession you can ever have is your people. And for the sake of your people, you must get up and fight for them. Bulgarians prefer to flee from their lands, therefore allowing the muslims to cuck them like Sweden.

politically actually quite good, theyre behaving like good pupils.

austrian right wing party FPÖ is like THE party for serbs, the only one who advocates serbian interests (like meeting serbian partys, declaring kosovo as serbia, got the same enemy = kebap)... who would haave thought that 100 years ago

whereas croatians tend more to the catholic conservativ party but as well fpö

on the other hand the left wing partys (soc dems, greens) get votes from turks and other muslims

ive been there, loved it

croatia has one of the most beautiful coasts in all of the mediterrenean if not the most b

only italy has maybe a small edge because of the incredible beauty of their cities

wrong

>Bulgarians prefer to flee from their lands, therefore allowing the muslims to cuck them like Sweden.
lmfao i can tell you're that autistic cucked serblet from nz

serbia accepts muslims, we beat the fuck out of muslims

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Serbians are literally kebab removers

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they literally aren't
last year they complained that our police beat refugees and that we should treat them better

butthurt turklet, you would get killed here

Source ?

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I meant Serbia complaining

good night bulgy bro

Someone post screencap about town rapist form moldavia

its 10:59 brah

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Between the wars the GDP per capita of Czechoslovakia was equal to the GDP of Austria.

can confirm ... even die hard nazis here like em because of that eventhough 1WW

Lol

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>Romania
>Bulgaria
>Shit tier

Pick one.

We just get shitted on because most of our second or third class citizens emigrated. Shit is pretty cash here if you don't live in some rural shithole miles from civilization.

61% are old as fuck and are nostalgic about their youth when their backs didn't ache.

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Is the one on the right farting?

>Shit is pretty cash here if you don't live in some rural shithole miles from civilization.
de fapt e total invers.
daca gasesti o zona izolata departe de tiganii din oras traiesti ca un boier.
tigan prost, fac pariu ca stai la bloc in militari.

They were always shit. Real divide in europe is north vs south. Communism was a distortion, slowly things will move back to how they've always been.

nigger blood

Jews have been using nigger foot soldiers to destroy caucasian society since Egypt

Ancient Egypt killed with nigger blood
Old Middle East killed with nigger blood
Europe dying of nigger blood
USA life support cause of Nigger Blood
Australia/New Zealand Next
Iceland last holdout
Antartica last battle

Nigger blood is a virus

I can't talk about romania because I haven't live there.
However in Bulgaria we had a pretty good roll with the Bulgarian Empire ages ago, up until all our 'friends' betrayed us and started chopping at us on different fronts while we were busy stopping the muslim wave coming from the middle east.
Next up we get conquered and we roll down into slavery for a few hundred years.
Shit sucks but eventually people regain their strength and start creating revolutionary movements. We actually have a lot of great poets who were revolutionaries themselves.
They hid in the forests and mountains, created ambushes and generally became a great danger to the mudslimes who were feeling pretty confident, as all mudslimes always do, and they got fucked. With a little bit of russian help we got our country back and tried to restart the whole thing.
Seeing as the mudslimes had no intention of using these lands for anything more than plundering and raping no technological/agricultural/etc advancement was made during that 500+ year period of slavery. (Germany and Sweden take notes on this)

Next up- the twentieth century kicks around, we're desperately trying to catch up to the rest of the world but we are lacking competent leadership and get stuck in a couple of wars one right after the other. At first we're doing okay but things start to roll badly pretty fast because there's no way to keep up, and during the Balkan wars we start getting fucked pretty bad.
We can thank god nobody took us seriously when we declared the symbolic war (against pretty much the entire world) and around that time the filthy Marxist doctrines started infiltrating the ranks heavily.
Here comes communism! And it tarnishes all intellectual capacity by eliminating anyone with half a ball and anyone able of minimal intellectual thinking.
Then comes the fall of communism and a bunch of mafia type characters who have nothing in mind other than get rich, send your kids abroad while everyone suffers.
Welcome to BG !

>Romania and Bulgaria still lag behind the rest.

They were, and still are, really far behind.
The EU is a social project, taking money from rich countries and giving it to poor ones.
Balkans are really poor.

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IDK about Romania, but in Bulgaria the communists never went away. The people who control the country are basically the descendants of the communists along with mafia bosses. Even half of our current cabinet which is "conservative" has had communistic political connections in the past. This is a plague that has to die off first. The Soviets fucked this country up.