How does Sup Forums ethically justify ostracizing certain people from society?

How does Sup Forums ethically justify ostracizing certain people from society?

They can make their own society where they demonstrate the values of democracy

Facts and common sense are fairly credible to use

They're not ostracised. Overtly exclusionary religions clothing that blocks their integration IS.

If they don't want to assimilate, then why accept them?

Because they should be eradicated in a genocide that actually happened, they should be thankful they are outcasts instead of ashes in the wind forgotten forever.

Not necessarily just muslims, but how are they not ostracized? Doesn't their refusal to assimilate make them ostracized?

>Doesn't their refusal to assimilate make them ostracized?

You cannot ostracise yourself, though. You can choose not to socialise, but that's your decision to make, not society.

>but that's your decision to make, not society.

so if you don't want to assimilate, it's not ostracization?

No, it's self-exclusion, isn't it? Or an act of recusal. Ostracization is something done TO you, not something you do yourself.

I don't bother with bullshit moral posturing, I'd just do it.

Nobody whose "normal" look reasonably appears to be a mortal threat to my existence is welcome anywhere near me. If they encroach within proximity to which they have no right despite warnings, they're liable to get shot.

Unsurprisingly, the Japanese understand this.

Ask muslims in their own countries, they do it all the time.

I like the idea of freedom of religion, but the practical reality is that if the right militant, aggressive, hostile ideology comes and takes hold, it is the same thing as if a body doesn't have an immune system, and a virus comes in unopposed. The fascism fears the other side has is the same type of thing. I don't want to see innocent people get hurt on any side, and I don't know what the answer is, but I very much doubt an open, tolerant, diverse society will last for very long without the right kind of dominant culture. It is currently widely seen as a virtue to tear down the last scraps of that culture. I think the future here will belong to the 3rd world way of life!

Nature doesn't operate on a system of ethics it operates on survival. If the west bends over and spreads their ass cheeks so they can feel "ethical" I hope you're all ready to get fucked. I can't take this crap anymore though, sitting idly by is driving me so fucking insane I'm going to start punching holes in the wall.

A politician can't just "do it", though.

What? Why the fuck do you care what they do in their societies.

>muh democracy
You're a cuck

So in the case of refusal to assimilate, it is just assumed that exclusion is justified?

>justified

In the case of refusal to assimilate, exclusion is INEVITABLE.

It doesn't require justification because it's their personal choice not to assimilate, and their own self-exclusion necessarily follows.

I see what you mean, but can't it be argued as ethically wrong to exclude under those same circumstances? Right as well?

In this example, I really don't see how? If I find myself in a land that I have no respect for, I leave because I find myself unwilling (or unable) to follow its laws.

I don't consider myself welcome everywhere. There are many places I am not welcome. But I don't want to try and force myself on those people, either.

As I would not choose to assimilate, I can't blame that society for excluding me.

So the society has the right to exclude? And the justification is that no one has the right to be a part of a society that they don't assimilate to?

why do I need to justify it?

>So the society has the right to exclude?

Society has the DUTY to exclude, in many ways. A society needs rules, and rules exist to exclude behaviours and actions that the society deems negative. A society that doesn't do this simply isn't a society...just..a loose collective of people..

>the justification is that no one has the right to be a part of a society that they don't assimilate to?

This seems like common sense. If you don't assimilate, you just aren't a part of that society. That's what assimilation is.

But it's their own personal choice. It's not the society excluding them, in this case. It's them choosing not to abide by society.

>why do I need to justify it?
Exactly.

Does Saudi Arabia need to justify to any SJW cucks why it doesn't allow women to wear a burqa at certain times?

Do other Muslim countries need to justify why they would kill said cucks as soon as they entered the country?

Okay we are all on board with moral relativism, but if people don't want a bunch of Mexicans and Muslims in America we have to at least give a reason for political purposes. Also, it's fun.

so I stood up and told that teaching lady, the only letters I need are the 14 words