CATHOLIC GENERAL Everyone is welcome. Discuss news, ask question, give answers, be kind to one another, and above all assist one another in living the virtuous life. As usual, I will be assisting with answering questions and helping people out. I recommend you do the same.
List of recommended Christian movies, music, and books in the following posts. Feel free to add to the lists.
Reposting my Apostolic Christianity recommended books:
>GENERAL
The Bible (Ignatius Study Bible Recommended) The catechism of your denomination
>accepted English versions of Bible
NABRE Douay Rheims RSV
>THEOLOGY
>novice
Introduction to Christianity by Joseph Ratzinger The Last Superstition by Edward Feser The Everlasting Man by G.K. Chesterton Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton Mere Christianity CATHOLICISM by Robert Barron The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware Outlines of Moral Theology by Francis J. Connell
>intermediate
Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser God: His Existence and His Nature by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange Natural Theology by Bernard Boedder The Spirit of Medieval Philosophy by Etienne Gilson Against Heresies City of God Christianity for Modern Pagans The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church
>advanced
Apologia Pro Vita Sua Summa Contra Gentiles Summa Theologiae On the Incarnation The Didache Divine Names by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite
Part 1/2
Ayden Thomas
>Cucktholics
William Russell
Part 2/2 >SPIRITUAL LIFE
>novice
The Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis de Sales Story of a Soul by St. Therese The Seven Storey Mountain by Thomas Merton Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Fr Seraphim Rose Nihilism - Fr Seraphim Rose
>intermediate
The Interior Castle Spiritual Exercises by St. Ignatius Dialogues by St. Catherine of Sienna True Devotion to Mary True Devotion to the Holy Spirit
>advanced
The Cloud of Unknowing The Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross The Desert Fathers The Philokalia The Ladder of Divine Ascent New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton The Imitation of Christ by Thomas Kempis
>MEMETICS
Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World by Rene Girard I See Satan Fall Like Lightning by Rene Girard
>HISTORICAL/BIOGRAPHICAL
Rome Sweet Home The Long Loneliness by Dorothy Day After Virtue Christendom I: Founding of Christendom Theology and Social Theory by John Millbank Ethics and the Limits of Philosophy by Bernard Williams Life of St.Anthony by Saint Athanasius Life of St Francis of Assisi by Saint Bonaventure Silouan the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony The Autobiography of St. Ignatius Loyol
>FICTION
Don Quixote The Divine Comedy Paradise Lost Silence by Shusaku Endo A Canticle for Leibowitz Faust Les Miserables The Canterbury Tales The Man Who Was Thursday The Brothers Karamazov A Man for All Seasons The Pillars of the Earth The Lord of the Rings The Chronicles of Narnia Lord of the World Parzifal Joseph of Arimathea: A Romance of the Grail The Arthurian Cycle Quo Vadis
Gabriel Robinson
As usual, I'll be posting art. And remember that the OP can't bump his own thread.
Jonathan Rogers
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Caleb Miller
Important note: Thomas Aquinas copied plato and still can't deal with a cyclical universe.
All of these are arguments based on the fact that you don't know and you use your lack of knowledge to believe that you do know.
Ian Rogers
Imperial Leather
Also you're all going to hell, idol-worshipping taig scum
John Anderson
May God bless you, OP, and us all. May He reveal a new truth to us and remove the veil of the current false-Pope.
Owen Roberts
Reminder that the church is - NOT - necessary for salvation and that the Pope is - NOT - infallible
Kevin Hill
Thomas Aquinas was part of the Scholastic tradition, which extends from the Greeks, but was a staunch Aristotelian.
>and still can't deal with a cyclical universe.
I don't find it relevant at all to Aquinas' works. You're going to have to explain yourself because it looks to me like you're arguing against a strawman of his point.
>the last line
Fundamentally untrue. Simply nothing of it correlates to what you're saying. You're bullshitting.
Jacob Gonzalez
>the current false-Pope.
Fuck off faggot.
Joshua Taylor
>Chosen by God and is His representative on Earth
>G-God fucked up guys he didn't really pick a foot-licking Marxist as Pope i-it's just.. I just... JUST
You'll get what's coming to you
Nathan Fisher
>Worshipping a holy Argentinian communist >BASED pick one
Catholicism is bullshit and the papacy has no basis in Scripture, Sola scriptura faggots, I'm basing my faith on the WORD OF GOD, not on the words of your cuck-pope.
Gott mit uns.
Camden Lee
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Kevin Cox
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Sebastian Jones
She knows.
Kayden Cruz
>Sola scriptura faggots
Take your man-made anti-biblical dogmas and shove them up your ass.
Samuel Long
is over there, retard.
Lincoln Phillips
Reminder that God punishes those who lead His flock astray. Repent from your wickedness and confess your sins to a priest.
Grayson Garcia
>worshiping / praying to anything besides Jesus or god.
heresy.
Ian Carter
catholicism is satan worship
There is no catholic who has read the bible and remained a catholic.
Samuel Howard
>Reminder that God punishes those who lead His flock astray Like the current Pope?
>There is no catholic who has read the bible and remained a catholic.
>We wrote it.
Liam King
>I don't find it relevant at all to Aquinas' works. You're going to have to explain yourself Aren't you familiar with Aquinas' First Way? Where he verbatim uses Plato's Prime Mover argument to extrapolate pluripotentiality and absoluteness of cause.
It's an argument in ignorance of time's potential loop taken without understanding of relativistic spacetime and closed timelike curves.
He argues that the divine must exist because he believe there must be one first cause, straight from Plato, but he cannot know so defaults to belief. Yet such belief cannot be anything but at odds with the truth for it denies any other possibility, though they be manifest.
Easton Butler
fucking newniggers
Easton Sullivan
Taig scum BTFO
Alexander Watson
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James Morris
noice
Robert Barnes
We get traditionalists Catholics all the time. Much of the serious Catholic fanbase is traditionalist.
Well the first part is wrong and the second part is part-wrong. The pope carries papal infallibility, but that doesn't mean he's wrong from time to time, yes?
I kid.
Glad we got our Prot shitposter early. Wouldn't be a Catholic General without you.
Jaxon Garcia
Anglicans and other heretics have never cared about a Pope. Why the interest in this one?
/his/ has been taken over by Marxist and they aren't shy to admit it either. Its funny how people claim Sup Forums is a circle-jerk but this charge fits more with other boards like /his/
>Please pick one. It is derived essentially from the Platonist world view that declares there must be an absolute exemplar of each object. Aristotle merely takes that state there must be a universal object.
This was in contrast to the truth of Heraclitus, who said that everything is in constant flux, and has no perfect image. Panta rhei.
The Papacy has remained unbroken since the founding of His Church on Earth. Something your 500 year 'church' based on Luther's blasphemy can never claim.
Grayson Jackson
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Jordan Jenkins
How do you lads rationalise your worship of the coat of arms of a man who actively fought to repel the British invasion of Ireland?
your entire religious "knowledge" consists of hurr ian paisley hurr peter hitchens
Carter Jenkins
Bobby ate fuck all.
Hunter Barnes
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Joshua Morales
The Pope seems pretty broken right now
Justin Wilson
What happens to the arts that we've learned once we're in the afterlife, Sir Wolf? I'm a drawfag and want to create beautiful works that glorify Our Lord, and I read some random quote that those who practice music can bring their skill to Heaven. Any information in our tradition about this?
Nolan Taylor
>upset about a classical expression of humility because its done to a person in a class of people you don't like
See you next time.
Communion of Saints? Ultimately all it is is asking them to pray for you. No need to act as if it is worship.
Every time.
>Plato's Prime Mover argument >Plato's user...
But to your point, all five of Aquinas' Five Ways are not his arguments and he doesn't claim anything but the form he expresses it in. What are his arguments is the work he does afterwords.
>It's an argument in ignorance of time's potential loop taken without understanding of relativistic spacetime and closed timelike curves.
Way to show you have absolutely no grasp of what Aristotle of Aquinas were saying. Time has little to nothing to do with this as sustaining causation is what Aristotle and Aquinas are speaking about rather than temporal causation.
>He argues that the divine must exist because he believe there must be one first cause, straight from Plato, but he cannot know so defaults to belief.
The argument he gives is a deductive proof, not some guess:
Aquinas' Five Ways are five deductive proofs and each are to get five different results from classical arguments. For example, the end result of the First Way is "pure actuality", from the potential/actual distinction in physics in his time. From all five of those results he examines attributes necessary of such traits and then, afterwords, defends rationally that all five results MUST necessarily be the same thing. Afterwords, the term "God" is applied as it's entirely synonymous with how God is understood theologically.
There's no defaulting to anything.
Charles Cooper
You're trying too hard pal. Honorable attempt, but of all things to criticize the man for, you're criticizing him for one (as you believe) bad argument and using that as an excuse to not believe one of his much better arguments.
Why not start a skeptic general sometime, so we can try and clog your threads too? /sg/, I like the sound of it.
Brody Taylor
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Oliver Williams
>>essentially Indeed. It cannot exist without Plato's theories of divinity. But if you like, replace Plato with Aristotle in . It makes little difference, the argument still stands.
To wit: The classical theological foundation of a prime mover is both pagan, and has no ken to modern scientific theory.
It is simply an argument based upon ignorance of causality.
Jose James
Okay, and?
Ryder Garcia
Good job believing media spin.
Pope Francis called "the media" shit-loving shit-eaters. They got pissed and claimed he said "fake news," of course.
Brody Powell
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David Gray
give me one good reason to convert to Catholicism.
There's a difference between washing the feet as Jesus did and washing the feet of someone who doesn't care and was completely uninterested (hence why they were on their phone as he was kissing the feet).
>>upset about a classical expression of humility because its done to a person in a class of people you don't like
YTKD isnt an actual christian he just pretends to be one because he thinks that conservatives ought to be christian. he knows next to nothing about christianity and as a rabid anti-semite is not really cut out to be a christian. unfortunately this does not stop him from roleplaying on the internet
Joshua Reed
Aristotle mocked paganism all the time you idiot. He did it intelligently though so retards like you wouldn't notice.
And take your (((modern scientific theory))) and shove it up your retarded ass.
Thomas Gonzalez
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Jonathan Martinez
>and as a rabid anti-semite is not really cut out to be a christian Classic fucking Catholic response
Angel Brooks
Happiness.
Angel Howard
there is absolutely no difference other than the fact that you are a vain person and the latter example offends your pathetic human pride
Joshua Hernandez
>not in the redpill church Why not? It hates kikes, says that muslims are filth and devotes most of the day to jesus.
So does anyone have any idea of whats going on in the Vatican? Any hope of a based pope in the future? Also how do you all feel about G.K. Chesterton?
Jayden Brown
>are five deductive proofs Yet based upon deductive reasoning, the placement of a single immutable cause cannot withstand the equally valid contention of a cyclical causal cycle in the 'big crunch'.
His his no more a 'proof' than "if I ignore the black in it, it is white".
>Why not start a skeptic general sometime But I am discussing catholic theology. Though I do know you don't like people asking questions about it. Nor having criticisms...
Brody Evans
Reminder that the Conservative Party is the greatest opponent to conservatism in the UK.
Nice flag.
Elijah Harris
Cool.
John Reyes
Next pope is guaranteed to be Polish. Francis is an experiment. He's not helping the image of the church and he's losing members all over the show because of his leniency.
Blake Turner
You cannot pick and choose which Pope you like and dislike.
