>The Sexual Revolution was the worst thing to happen to society >If a woman isn't a virgin, you have ZERO reason to date/marry them >Serial monogamy is just as bad as casual hookups >Sex isn't a consequence free activity >J.D. Unwin's theses on sexual morality haven't been refuted
inb4 the following non-arguments >Muh correlation is not causation >Muh Kinsey debunks Unwin >Muh casual sex is fun >Sluts fuck better than virgins >You just need to man up and dominate a former whore >You need to have white kids, just compromise! >You're just a bitter virgin. If you just had sex, Promiscuity statistics, and J.D. Unwin would lose all meaning!
We get it dude, you're having a hard time getting laid.
Brayden Collins
FUCKING PEDO !
Kayden Price
The Sexual Revolution was the worst thing to happen to society
> I agree 100% with this, porn is pure evil
Cameron Foster
Serial monogamy is just as bad as casual sex 100% fact
Landon Richardson
Nobody has a hard time getting laid, anymore, that's the problem. Getting laid is as easy as downloading Tinder.
Unfortunately, sex has consequences, and hedonism ruins societies. Why are our birthrates so low? Why are marriages falling apart and marriage rates declining overall? Why has women's happiness plummeted?
On the societal level, it's horrible. On the individual level, if you're looking for a girl that's wife material, good luck.
Parker Roberts
>If a woman isn't a virgin, you have ZERO reason to date/marry them.
I think this needs to be emphasized especially here in the United States. Men have no self-respect and actually wife up these whores. A woman ought to be chaste before the bridal bed.
>B-but she's special and total wife material If she was wife material then she would have remained chaste.
>B-but muh dick Marriage is a contract, not a petty sexual endeavor. Think with your head, the one between your shoulders.
>B-but all girls are whores; you are asking for the impossible Not all girls are whores, but many are this is true. If indeed all girls are whores then it is best to avoid marriage altogether.
Nathaniel Hall
Thanks, anons. Ever since r/theDonald and /leftypol/ started shitting up the board, the Overton Window on sexuality here has gone to Hell.
Brayden Williams
>marxism >feminism "sexual revolution" is just a symptom of a decadent society.
Adam Perez
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Luke Scott
You're welcome. Newfags always have difficulty adjusting to these hardline stances. But eventually they either cave or leave. Thanks for the thread.
Benjamin Morales
>Men have no self-respect and actually wife up these whores
Because after a certain age, you gotta take what you can get. After around 25 years old you start to face the very real possibility of being alone your entire life. I have no problem marrying a non-virgin, I only ask that she has no kids and never fucked a non-white.
Jeremiah Perez
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Robert Gutierrez
It is, to a certain extent, but in fairness, Joseph Stalin did attempt to reverse sexual liberation in the USSR, that Lenin & Trotsky brought about.
It wasn't successful, and his policies were repealed by his successors, but we have to give credit where it's due.
Connor Rogers
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Hudson Campbell
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Jack Garcia
user, just date younger. Don't enable and reward bad behavior.
kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html "On the other hand, for men, having had more sex partners in their lifetime was a predictor of less sexual satisfaction." And many other statistics
psycnet.apa.org/journals/senpai/24/6/766/ "Both structural equation and group comparison analyses demonstrated that sexual restraint was associated with better relationship outcomes, even when controlling for education, the number of sexual partners, religiosity, and relationship length."
smash car windows? steal something? those 2 can obviously lead the suspicion on me so its needs to looks like an accident. What if I have their chat logs of her saying bad stuff to people behind their back and send it to them? does that warrant a crime?
Sebastian Kelly
if you cant find a good wife material woman in time then maybe you should die alone fag
Eli Fisher
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Julian Moore
In order to fix the problem, you have to know the problem
Sexual Regulations and Human Behaviour. London: Williams & Norgate ltd., 1933.
Sex and Culture. London: Oxford University Press, 1934.
Sexual Regulations and Cultural Behaviour. London: Oxford University Press, 1935.
Sex Compatibility in Marriage. New York: Rensselaer, 1939.
"Monogamy as a Condition of Social Energy,” The Hibbert Journal, Vol. XXV, 1927.
Easton Fisher
Good lad, I just wanted to help deposit a few redpills.
Gabriel Walker
Casual reminder that you need to live with your own decisions. >If a woman isn't a virgin, you have ZERO reason to date/marry them Allahu Akbar, you are a faggot.
Ryan Gutierrez
Easier said than done my friend. I am already 26 years old, I do not work around young women and I do not meet them either. My only chance was college and I blew it (plus those college girls were FAR from wifey material). I thinking about going back to church but I'm not holding my breath.
Adrian White
see then say that again
Mason Cook
no it was jews
Blake Howard
>In order to fix the problem, you have to know the problem
Kinsey was a student of Aleister Crowley.
Alexander Walker
I just read the chapter on Freud in culture of critique. Triggerd to pieces.
I was looking for another book the other day, i dont know what its called. I think the author is some latin guy, spanish or italian, the book is about how sexuality is used as a weapon agianst us, anyone know what book im talking about?
Isaiah White
Man OP I agree completely and it pains me so that the girl I'm currently with has had 3 partners before me. I love her and we have an amazing dynamic but her past hurts my heart, my former girlfriend was a virgin before me but I felt nothing for her, it is only now that I feel love I must also feel the pain of being with a non virgin.
Ethan King
libido dominandi
Nathan King
This
Jaxon Green
Women should remain in her father's home until she has married.
Thomas Ortiz
Promiscuity might be the one thing the Muslims are right about. Quit being such a hedonist.
I mean, I've tried a few Churches, but modern Christianity is awful. I know it's not every Church, but the ones that I've seen are filled with the "God forgives xD" types.
I'd still give it a shot, but don't expect a miracle.
In a similar thread a few days ago, some user had an old man at Church introduce him to a qt granddaughter, so try networking that way, I suppose.
Barring that, you could always try joining a "Young Republicans" chapter, if you look young enough.
Other than that, smalltown America, or teaching English for a while in rural Eastern Europe are the other alternatives.
Justin Ward
"3" is the universal number women give out LOL, I would not take it seriously at all. It is probably best for your sanity that you don't know the real number.
Kayden Wilson
It's degenerate, but you could always keep one foot in the door while looking around, user. If you see a proper woman that you like better, I'd suggest dumping the current one and going for it.
Also
>3 guys
Elijah Reyes
>some latin guy
Lol
Thanks, this is it. Have you read it?
Luke Gutierrez
>I think this needs to be emphasized especially here in the United States. Men have no self-respect and actually wife up these whores. A woman ought to be chaste before the bridal bed.
Its too bad the only groups talking about anything like this is MGTOW who take it too far If Men werent a bunch of thirsty beta orbiters this problem would fix itself
Bullshit, nothing changes but the type of woman you can get. I am sorry you cant find a virgin instagram model if she is over 25. You spent your life chasing women that make your dick hard and not ones that would be good wives/mothers.
Jason Taylor
Are you still a virgin?
Any man who is not a virgin is a fool if he thinks he will ever find a virginal bride.
Kevin Parker
>some latin guy GTFO you fucking larper
Jacob Murphy
Sex sure as fuck isn't free of consequences. I have no idea how so many people just hook up with random sluts they meet in bars or clubs.
It may just be me, but I am absolutely terrified of STDs and unwanted pregnancies. I've only had ONE sexual partner and after the breakup I don't intend to look for anyone else any time soon.
How can people just fuck randoms as if it was the most normal thing in the world, especially when people are irresponsible as fuck in general?
And yeah, "if we all thought like that then no one would have sex", sure, but the point still stands that sex today is dangerous as hell.
It takes just one mistake to ruin your entire life and people still do it. It's horrifying.
Gabriel Parker
Church isnt an automatic good girl. But for thousands of years marriage was a religious union before God. You cant take the God out of it and expect it to stay the same. So going to church will greatly increase your chances.
Also this
Noah King
Daily reminder that i don't listen to virgins on Sup Forums because the text is green
Jack Martin
? I made a mistake, because of the title, and this makes me a larper?
Jayden Torres
You're an idiot if you think every girl out there take a bunch of cocks for breakfast.
Noah Lewis
There's plenty of sources in the thread, nigger.
Also, Not/Argument.
Joseph Carter
If you think OP's pic is a child, then you're fucked in the head.
Jordan Turner
I'm 30. I've had 3 failed relationships spanning over several years. The last one ended 2 years ago. Then I have downloaded tinder because I wanted to meet someone and meeting someone when you're already having a steady job where you see the same people all day is hard. Since then I have fucked about 20 different women, all with so much baggage that a relationship was out of the question from the first few dates. Even though most women were in their early 20s most of them had dozens of prior partners and so many mental issues that even keeping the fling up for a month was really taxing on my nerves.
I have lost any interest in marriage or relationships at the point where I am in life currently. Id rather just bone a girl when I get the option than to let another succubus into my life who will try to drain me emotionally, financially and ruin my health while she's at it.
Where do you even find "good girls" anymore? I tried church and I met a girl who told me about how she had a bukkake orgy once.
I tried the library and met a girl who frequented swinger clubs to get fucked by strangers.
What even happened in the last 10 years? Were women always so dogshit tier terrible or did social media pretty much inflate the problem?
Owen Phillips
We are the pure
Chase Cox
Well, I'm not terribly familiar with the moral situation of Germany; however, I've heard that most of Western Europe is fairly irreligious. So, regardless of your own beliefs, that's going to take a toll on society.
Really, though, this has been snowballing since the early 1960s. It's waxed and waned, but now it's just impossible to ignore.
Isaac Fisher
you're contributing to the problem user
Henry Anderson
All social media did was offer a platform for boasting about one's own achievements. That throwing away their virginity and having bukkake orgies are considered achievements is down to the sexual revolution, which was a targeted effort to replace the men in the patriarchy of civilisation by the state.
Social media does tend to facilitate hookups and orgie festivals like Glastonbury.
Chase Hall
What if a woman isn't a virgin but her husband died before they could bear children?
Elijah Young
Your probably right but most of us here have social issues. It's not our faults this world is for chads who pump and dump all the girls. Porn also messed with our heads from a young age so we're sexually discouraged. At least in my case I can't bring myself to manipulate a girl just to get laid. Hoping I can find a nice grill to date so I don't become a wizard.
Thomas Rogers
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Samuel Gomez
For 800 years women have been submitting to men who put them first. Not at all what this fetishistic article espouses, that women naturally aim to serve and please. Men toil and work themselves to the bone, often sacrificing their own lives just so their women can leave comfortably. Take Titanic, for instance, or any other sinking ship: women and children first. These weren't manginas. No, in fact, quite the opposite. They had higher test than most men today, they didn't even fear death!
There's a reason most porn has women moaning in pleasure. As selfish as man's sexual drive seems, it's actually focused on pleasing WOMEN. Why else would men fuss over the size of their cocks? It's because our gyneolatry is biologically driven.
Men have been treating women as equals for some time now, so this tradition, which certainly was patriarchal but also gynocentric, has been lost. Along with chivalry and other traditional male behaviors. It's been replaced with the maturation fueled rants like the one you just posted, demanding more and more closure and coddling from women. The only flies we'll catch with this honey are extreme self-sacrificing masochistic women who are big into a hit like DDLG and mollycoddlying their husbands. This tires women out just a little slower than making them go to work. It is only permitted because it's driven by the female nature to serve... BABIES. Yes, go look it up.
Thomas Morales
I agree completely. It's good to see that some people around the globe still think the same as me.
Jaxon Butler
I said no such thing.
Most millennial women have anywhere from 5-10 sex partners by the time they are in their early twenties. A smaller minority have had one or two, but the vast majority of those are currently in their relationship. They will either be married soon, or will very quickly join the ranks of the 5-10 girls. A very few girls have had no sexual partners into their late teens/early twenties. For most of those, it was not by some moral choice; but a happenstance of genetics (ugly) or of constraints (super busy with hyper parents).
Among the men who engage in promiscuous sex, the vast majority start early, and gain a taste for it immediately. They will usually engage in as many encounters as is reasonably possible, with a relatively wide variety of girls. They won't stop fucking around and get serious about finding a wife until they hit their twenties. For some it's early, for other's it's late, either way it's too late for all of them because their dating field is almost certainly going to be composed entirely of girls just like them, only a little sluttier (law of opportunity). Furthermore, if they ever do find a straight up, chosen to keep herself chaste, 6/10 wife-up virgin, they will almost certainly either fuck it up, get bored, or be rejected due to their partner count/low value.
In other words, get ready to wife up them sluts you're fucking, boys!
Julian Hughes
As long ur put together and have a decent job u can get a gal. Just head to the bar with some friends and find some nice girls. Though it's usually hard to find girls ur age who arnt used up.
Brayden Butler
There's a difference between being a cuck and being a masculine man.
Jose Torres
Doesn't matter. It's a tragic situation, but she's still less valuable.
It's the same emotionally charged red herring that plagues discussions on the dangers of single motherhood. Someone inevitably throws in widows. It's sad, but it doesn't change statistics.
Plus, the death of a spouse is a significant hurdle. You're better off not dealing with the baggage.
Andrew Myers
Ive seen people give this kind of speeches before being divorced by their wife literally two months later.
Brayden Diaz
Fuck don't tell the guy, but ur right most girls are at around 10 sexual partners by their early 20s.
Chase Ward
Women have always been this way. Men used to just keep them in check. They cant do that anymore so they run wild.
Also Tinder is the worst of the worst, dont judge based on that.
Theres always an exception to every rule, but keep in mind she still loves him more than she loves you. Shes only with you because she cant be with him.
Hunter Bell
>>The Sexual Revolution was the worst thing to happen to society [Source needed] [Opinion] >>If a woman isn't a virgin, you have ZERO reason to date/marry them She makes me happier. It's good enough of a reason to date her. >>Serial monogamy is just as bad as casual hookups [Source needed] [Opinion] >>Sex isn't a consequence free activity [Source needed] [Opinion] >>J.D. Unwin's theses on sexual morality haven't been refuted Nor proven.
What is wrong with you man? How much of a frustrated guy can you be to want to spend your time telling people to not be with someone else?
Adrian White
>Since then I have fucked about 20 different women
Wew Kollege, stopped reading right there.
Julian Phillips
You don't need a virgin, just a conservative girl. Avoid promiscuos girls like the plague, once a girl jump into the cock carousel there is no turning back.
Zachary Cruz
There's always the danger, but in this day and age, you can't hope for any better.
Justin Evans
>You don't need a virgin see
Brandon Williams
>All social media did was offer a platform for boasting about one's own achievements. That throwing away their virginity and having bukkake orgies are considered achievements is down to the sexual revolution, which was a targeted effort to replace the men in the patriarchy of civilisation by the state. Well yeah, figures. The man used to be the sole provider, now that women are working the state is her family who will take care of her children while shes working and her "boss" is her provider. I know of many cases where a "career woman" type girl cheated on her boyfriend with her boss. It happens quite a lot.
Robert Bailey
>just a conservative girl. No such thing. Women change their opinions depending on their social circle, its all facade. If you get a "conservative" girl she is just as likely to cheat on you than a liberal one. I got "liberal" girls to admit to me they hate niggers, etc. They just tell you what they believe you wanna hear to screw with you and fool you into believing you found a "soulmate".
Michael Cruz
At least she doesn't have kids, right?
Cameron Cruz
Where do YOU draw the line? The person whose article you screencapped draws it at forcing women into chattel slavery.
Jeremiah Gomez
I've had 32 women alltogether. Its not that much, but enough to get a rough estimate of how they work. Last year I met some 19 year old chick from tinder and she told me she was up to 50 partners. The one from church couldnt even remember how many and the most recent one, a socially awkward shy nerd type in her early 20s already had 7 different partners. If even spergy nerd girls manage to get laid by 7 different guys you can imagine how much dick your future wife will have had by the time you decide to "man up" and marry her.
Camden Sanders
You don't actually call black people nigger to their face, do you?
Isaac Johnson
There are girls bellow the 20s with more than 10 sex partners already, but there are girls in their 20s-30s with 1-5 previous relationships too. You can't generalize about it, because there conservative girls, girls with some experience and slut tier girls. Just take care and know the girl before marrying her.
Cooper Powell
>The Sexual Revolution was the worst thing to happen to society
It was bad because nobody was told that sex was a responsibility and that relationships are built on trust and not on vagina to dick contact. Instead they were told "OY VEY GOYIM YOU NOW HAVE FREEDOM".
Dylan Turner
Conservative in the sexual field user.
Joshua Sanders
>non-arguments >> correlation is not causation wew lad
Samuel Gray
No such thing
Jack Butler
Sources are detailed in the thread, nigger. Listing studies, citations, or infographs in the OP is horrible for thread traction
>Sexual revolution
J.D. Unwin's works here: Supporting data here: >She makes me happier. It's a good enough reason to date her.
She's worse for a relationship than a virgin would be, you've been cheated out of the most intimate experience you can share with someone, etc.
>Serial monogamy source
Detailed in the infographs above.
>Sex isn't consequence free source
Infographs above
>J.D. Unwin not proven
Unwin looked at previous civilizations and found a running trend. His work hasn't seen a proper refutation. Screaming "not proven" isn't an argument for that.
>Don't tell me what to do. Let people do whatever they want.
Individual actions have an effect on the collective. That's why healthy societies enforce moral standards. Quit being such a degenerate libertarian.
Tbqh, anytime I meet a girl and find out she's not a virgin, I just lose all interest. It sucks finding a qt, taking them out, and finding out about that much later, but it's just not defensible to date a non-virgin.
Benjamin Green
I've met three black people in my life, and never had bad experiences with them on a personal level, why would I?
Again, not an argument.
First of all, "correlation=/=causation" isn't applicable here. Secondly, that phrase, at this point, is just a snarky line used by statistically illiterate people to dismiss data that they don't like.
No, it was bad because sex has consequences, and people should be remaining virgins until marriage.
Christian Taylor
Have you ever been in a fight or are you all talk?
Hudson Sullivan
>3 black people lol I see three people a day before I turn the street corner t. philadelphian
Nathan Flores
>just not defensible to date a non-virgin. keeping in mind than most people lost their virginity before 18, your chances are to be alone for the rest of your life. There are, you just need to find one of them.
Hudson Johnson
three black people a day*
Hunter Roberts
A couple of times back in High School, why?
Nathan Peterson
>She's worse for a relationship than a virgin would be [Opinion] >you've been cheated out of the most intimate experience you can share with someone [Opinion] I've had a virgin GF, and a non-virgin one. Having sex for the first time with the virgin one was not something I enjoyed particularly. And I also happen to be happier with the non-virgin one. So you are pushing your opinions as facts, when they are not.
You are clearly unreasonable. I will not debate with you.
Jaxson Taylor
>First of all, "correlation=/=causation" isn't applicable here. Secondly, that phrase, at this point, is just a snarky line used by statistically illiterate people to dismiss data that they don't like. Look, I'm no expert on unwin, this is the first I've heard of the guy, but the idea that your sexual mores determine your level of technology rather than your technology determining your sexual mores, seems dumb.
The role of children changes dramatically between hunter-gatherer, agrarian and industrial societies, and so do attitudes towards sex. This seems like an obvious case of confusing correlation and causation, on first blush.
John Watson
That's got to be awful.
Maybe, but I'd literally rather end up childless and alone, than compromise, marry some used goods girl, be cheated out of intimacy, and increase my risk of ending up like my father and grandfather who got gutted by divorce.
Carter Kelly
>There are, you just need to find one of them. Might be a case of you putting emphasis on the subject and they then try to please you by pretending to be what you like. I have NEVER met a woman who was confident in her beliefs. Its more of a "thing" they do when it serves them a purpose.
Ian Cox
Because you have no reason to hate niggers if you've never fought one, like me. I don't even hate niggers, I just wanna preserve the white race and white culture.
Bentley Howard
Dating a virgin in this social climate is something that can backfire hard if she decides that she needs to sleep arround more because of peer pressure.
Mason Ward
>falling for the vaginal jew
Gabriel Reed
slash a single tire
Hunter Baker
This actually makes a lot of sense. Has anyone got any counter arguments to this?
Ayden Peterson
>doesn't explain any of these shit reminders >it's a non-argument because I say it is kek really though anyone who thinks correlation isn't caustion is a non-argument is a retard
William Foster
>Opinion, she's worse for a relationship than a virgin would be.
Not an opinion. Even if you, on a personal level, like the non-virgin more, that doesn't change statistics showing that non-virgin women are objectively worse.
>intimacy opinion.
No, that's really not. Sex isn't a handshake, it's the "last frontier" of male-female interaction. It's not something to be taken lightly. It has psychological effects, etc.
>I didn't enjoy sex with my virgin gf
New shoes are uncomfortable, do you let other men break your shoes in for you?
>You are unreasonable, I won't debate you.
All you have at this point are anecdotes.
I'd recommend reading and gaining a full appreciation of his arguments, as well as looking into his takes on civilization trends as they relate to sexuality.
The Turk, in this screencap, roughly paraphrased one of Unwin's arguments to a certain degree:
