Developments Jan8 >SAA, Hezbollah resume offensive in Wadi Barada area after negotiations faild >turkey blames cyberattacks from US for power cuts >Truck hits soldier crowd in Jerusalem 4 dead, 15+ injured >Russian military sends over 3.5 tons of humanitarian aid to Aleppo >RUAF strike IS oil supply convoy that left from Homs to Raqqa >24 ceasefire violations reported in Syria yesterday >SAA advances in E Ghouta >SAA fully secures T-4 Airport >60 killed as result of car bomb attack in syrian border town of azaz >Iraq:deal reached over withdrawal of Turkish forces from Bashiqa >Iraqi forces reach east bank of Tigris in Mosul
Imo, really the only solution to end the bloodshed. More than the Kurds deserve, but Assad's resources would be immensely strained by trying to retake the territory they control.
hard to say desu, some people say that a federal syria would be the only way to avoid further bloodshed but judging by how politicised the ethnicities are, leaving them on their own with less central control could lead to aggresive nationalist ambitions among certain groups, ethnic cleansing and displacements included
Bentley Gomez
so communism is not a super state. communism is like a butterfly first u have an egg it hatches it moults it forms a chrysalis and a butterfly pops out
without wanting to sound like a 70's politics professor
capitalism is a necessary precondition for communism. u cannot go from egg to butterfly without eating leaves in the middle.
marx describes a journey of society through history. anyone ( including marx ) who thinks that you can accelerate this evolution is a liar. they just want to be important.
so globalism ( what do u mean by this ) is neccessary perhaps. but more importantly what marx says will happen is that people will become less nationalistic and more socialist through time. so they will create ever greater unions - e.g. europe, south american trade block, asean asian trade block. eventually all these unions will be one.
then for the culture of the state to become the culture of the people - it would take many generations. so maybe 150 - 300 years. then all the infrastructure, all the education all the blah blah would be ready.
then the state would collapse. and what you are left with is communism. anyone who thinks that communism is threat is missing the point - well actually several points. the communists are being lied to by being told we can haz it now, and the anti-commies are being lied to about it being a threat.it's just a journey through history.
and if u think about it something like artificial intelligence that does most of the work is 'a means of production' that can be 'socially owned'. if the machine does the work of making shoes, then no one has to work for free. and it makes no sense to own a factory of shoe making robots if no one can afford to buy them because they don't have job.
but we are far away from comsm. I would not be surprised if I am sitting on /pol in 1000yrs time, still waiting for communism. what we need to avoid is becoming slaves of the banks. financial capitalism is like feudalism. this is step back.
Julian Davis
>implying the subhuman pkk pedophiles can hold territory without airsupport >implying they can hold something with airstrikes against them
the SAA would retake northern Syria in 3 days
Brody Moore
As if the current state was any better. Literally the only reason Syria has managed to exist has been because of brutal crackdowns on any sectarian violence or ambitions.
>I would not be surprised if I am sitting on /pol in 1000yrs time, still waiting for communism. Delete this or the mammals will notice.
Gabriel Thomas
Look at this shit, I'm starting to feel bad for the turks. Just imagine facing ISIS in a heated situation, while these guys are protecting your flanks.
dont feel bad, remember they WANTED the FSA, just like they (erdogan) wanted ISIS.
they have made their bed, and guys who don't deserve it will die as they have before.
feel bad for the fact that they've been attacking Al-Bab for a month and only just now decided to try the Northeast flank. NOOBS
Dominic Wood
>hipfiring >burstfiring a PKM standing up
Sebastian Russell
fucking Afghan National Army level competent
Adrian Brown
>shooting in the general direction of Al-Bab from out of range God bless them
Isaiah Stewart
>Throughout the first years of the 1980s the Muslim Brotherhood and various other Islamist factions staged hit-and-run and bomb attacks against the government and its officials, including a nearly successful attempt to assassinate President Hafez al-Assad on 26 June 1980, during an official state reception for the president of Mali. When a machine-gun salvo missed him, al-Assad allegedly ran to kick a hand grenade aside, and his bodyguard (who survived and was later promoted to a much higher position) smothered the explosion of another one. Surviving with only light injuries, al-Assad's revenge was swift and merciless: only hours later a large number of imprisoned Islamists (reports say more than 1200[citation needed]) were executed in their cells in Tadmor Prison (near Palmyra), by units loyal to the President's brother Rifaat al-Assad. Based Hafez.
Julian Johnson
>that saudi incompetence
Jackson Reyes
Breaking military source to me || SAA in Counterattack now to re-control a Check point near Khnevis Road in West Salameia CS
"Rzekłbym, chuj w dupę Szwedom, ale ucieszyliby się tylko." - Jerzy Michał Wołodyjowski, 1654
Grayson Ross
It's rare to come across someone with an understanding of these basic concepts on Sup Forums. Kudos, deep
Nolan Brooks
>not including Åland >not including St. Petes I find your hegemony of the baltic lacking
Juan Young
Cheers buddy
Henry James
no denying that, also, creating a central authority that would be legitimate in the eyes of regional elites and thus would not have enforce it's rule through violence would be pretty much impossible just saying that federalism could cause problems too
Jacob Morales
You really hate the Kurds France. Are you a Turk? I don't even think I need to explain why your analysis is retarded, but consider how the SAA can lose Palmyra to ISIS in a day and who were really only saved from being destroyed after the fall of Idlib by Russian air support. Support for Bashar al-Assad and all that, but after so many years of war the SAA is exhausted.
Josiah Rodriguez
>be Saudi Arabia >be one of the most powerful nations in the region due to Oil >be allied, trained, and supplied by the most powerful nation in the world >can't even beat a bunch of literal sandniggers
JUST
James Torres
Performing such delicate operations in paint is hard.
Juan Baker
>feel bad for the turks
You're Hungarian, I thought hatred for them was supposed to run in your blood.
Anyways, Turks wanted this war and funded a bunch of Jihadis, now they get what they deserve.
Ethan Howard
Hungarians have only half a soul, so they don't hate as intensely as other people.
Jack Gutierrez
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Jaxon Jenkins
Why did his son became such a wussy?
Andrew Cruz
smoke kills?
Michael Nguyen
Because he wasn't supposed to be the ruler.
Cameron Richardson
sheltered upbringing. does he even lift?
Nicholas Brooks
What you said is exactly what I thought.
When I read about communism during school I think that it is possible to become a thing, and it will become a thing naturally. The thing is, you need to wait for capitalism to mature into it, sort of like ecological succession where ponds turn into full bloom forest. Historical tendency of despotism>feudalism>capitalism (I know I skipped a few in the middle) supported this theory. True communism will come to us just by having the people practicing capitalism to the fullest. Violence is not needed, theoretically.
The thing now is that capitalism is not practiced to its full potential, where healthy competition is applied for technology and new technique to flourish. The people in power culled any competition (e.g. big companies like google and other industries buying out their competitors and dismantling them, force government to implement rules that starve smaller competitors) and planned that once they are fully in power, they want to stagnate every progression and make things stay the same until the end of the time.
Jayden Gutierrez
arab warfare is cute, its like a twisted version of the napoleonic era
>arrive on the battlefield all swagged up >demonstrate that your courage and firepower is superior (from a distance) >whichever side breaks the enemy and makes em run wins (from a distance!)
Brayden Russell
AFFIX BAYONET
Nathaniel Martin
that's just modern warfare without proper air/artillery support
Christian Anderson
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Charles Green
Syria got an artillery park big enough to flatten the country over twice, yet they seem to be unable to get into indirect fire or artillery barrage. Frr some odd reason the Turks seem to be the only muslims who can into artillery. Why?
Austin Perez
So I think we can all agree that FSA and al-Nusra dropped the ball by not joining ISIS Strictly militarily speaking
Joshua Roberts
modern warfare without those things would still have a lot of movement but when arabs do it its literally a head on firefight like when two armies of old would clash
shit communications/logistics
Eli Sanders
I am interested in this Syrian conflict thing partly because of the urban warfare. It is a very new thing (WWII didn't explore it fully). With the experience these troops have I think their knowledge will be very valuable worldwide soon (tm).
Also, did Russia send ground troops too? Sorry for being an idiot for not knowing what Putin did.
Noah Green
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Bentley Sanchez
It baffles me that this dumbass keeps funding people that want him dead.
But then again, America did it too.
Angel Turner
Happening right now? What a coincidence that ISIS are attacking Khanafis right now... *rubs shekels*
Ethan Taylor
No. That's undisciplined rabbles dabbling in combat. Fire superiority is key to combat and any capable unit would seek to achieve it with small arms instead, assaulting enemies in fire and maneuver. These people don't even understand suppression.
Eli Williams
True. If they had all joined up in 2013 then the US would never have gone to war with ISIS because it would have destroyed their chances of regime change. Any beheading would have been written off as excesses by certain soldiers and not reflective of Caliph al-Baghdadi's plans for a moderate and free Islamic State in Syria. Plus it's become pretty clear that ISIS is superior from a tactics and fanaticism point of view.
Thomas Gray
You just don't always see that aspect of the war Remember when Nusra put out that Rage wind film of them breaking the siege on Aleppo? The artillery fire SAA is shooting at the beginning seems pretty accurate and fast
Lincoln Jones
yeah I meant modern warfare as interpreted by retards
Logan Jackson
Russias ground troops are mainly special forces sniping snackbars from a mile away, or clean up crews like the MPs in Aleppo.
Blake Cook
What ya drinking tonight /sg/? >me pic related
Dylan Mitchell
Tap water.
Isaiah Brown
>their knowledge will be very valuable worldwide soon (tm). Please don't.
Anthony Adams
Well for starters, getting artillery support where it's needed is a pain because they're still using towed artillery. The Turks use self-propelled howitzers so they can run around shooting everything, everywhere. Also they're better trained.
Caleb Hill
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Gavin Perez
kek
Evan Brooks
Thank you.
Ayden Rodriguez
Towed artillery moves as fast as the trucks towing them do.
Xavier Sanders
Or the horses.
Ryder Ross
Its just like real life then. phwew, though I was missing something.....
Dylan Powell
>Also, did Russia send ground troops too? Sorry for being an idiot for not knowing what Putin did. >proxyblad detected
Henry Reyes
or the yezidi sex slaves.
Angel Robinson
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Syrian_Army#Field_artillery Russky cannons are not too bad (correct me if I'm wrong Suomibros), with that amount of long guns you could flatten entire cities if needed be. Hell, you could flatten entire Idlib province with rolling fire. Yet they prefer atgm's and direct fire with smaller caliber guns.
Henry Smith
Oh poland
Cooper Campbell
>obstler opa bist du's?
Daniel Rogers
But doesn't Marx say revolution is necessary desu? I would think that is a threat
Grayson Williams
>Tap water. Are you on speed again?
Nicholas Smith
Its almost like Assad doesnt want to genocide his civilians or aomething
Nicholas Clark
Literally any country worth it's shit had to crack some heads to keep shit together and not fall abut into endless conflict.
Modernist morals are fucked when it comes to this reality and cause more harm when intervening.
Thomas Nelson
Marx's revolution is akin to demanding the cake RIGHT NOW! when it's still just flour and water.
Kayden Moore
sounds cool, got a link?
Aiden Richardson
Kost wenig, schmeckt gut, macht besoffen. Ich bin Traditionalist und wertkonservativ. Auch beim saufen.
Landon Carter
official story: Russia only sent engineers, advisors and military police. unofficial story: blyatwater death squads kidnapping children out of incubators and indoctrinating them with gopnik culture
I don't know why Assad is still willing to make attempts at a ceasefire. Maybe just to claim the moral high ground? Half the rebel factions don't follow it and those that claim to do so still cooperate with those who don't, and I'm sure give them some support for their offensives.
The rebels will only be willing to negotiate when the two star flag flies over Idlib and Abu Mohammad al-Julani's head is on a pike.
Hudson Robinson
They work. Not much else to say about them. So long as they have the skill and munitions to use them, they should be able to work miracles. They've got way more than enough of the stuff, but sadly they don't seem to be able to use it as well as they could.
>mfw idlib is turned into a glass parking lot >nothing of value was lost
Robert Adams
he isn't, really.
Nicholas Foster
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David Brown
>The United Nations chief expressed concern to the Security Council that Iran may have violated an arms embargo by supplying weapons and missiles to Lebanese Shi'ite group Hezbollah, according to a confidential report, seen by Reuters on Sunday.