Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Anthony Richardson
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Jayden Martinez
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Benjamin Brown
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Camden Ward
Anyone with questions, please ask them.
Evan Martinez
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Nolan Barnes
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Oliver Smith
If only
Anthony Harris
How is corruption between corporation and state stopped. How much power does the corporation have comparatively
Adam Smith
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Aiden King
>NOW FOR THE LONG EXPLANATION Corporatism can be defined as a system of interest representation in which the constituent units are organized into a limited number of singular, compulsory, noncompetitive, hierarchically ordered and functionally differentiated categories, recognized or licensed (if not created) by the state and granted a deliberate representational monopoly within their respective categories in exchange for observing certain controls on their selection of leaders and articulation of demands and supports. Corporatism places the worker's guild within it while relatively retaining the autonomy of the workers and placing them in collaboration rather than conflict with their bosses. In forcing the workers and the bosses to cooperate and allowing the councils to represent themselves in arbitration via the labor courts, the class struggle is alleviated without the need for general strikes and demonstrations. Furthermore, the place of state becomes one of oversight, deciding for instance which goods are considered harmful to the nation and banning their production.
The state regulated corporates constantly, not allowing one to gain a specific amount of power would be one of those responsibilities.
Christopher Johnson
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Brody Long
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Xavier Martinez
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William Hughes
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Kayden Evans
>ifunny I'm surprised stuff like this wouldn't be immediately banned.
Robert Sullivan
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Jaxon Garcia
bumping with some fashy aesthetics.
Kayden Phillips
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Jaxson Peterson
Nah, iFunny isn't that uptight about it. Either that or they aren't good at policing it.
Hunter Rodriguez
Did you make it? Or found it?
Aiden Phillips
Just found it, on a antifascist page.
Caleb White
Are there dedicated natsoc/fascist accounts?
Hunter Watson
>antifa page What
Joshua Watson
Quite a few, actually. Theres also a yuge amount of generally pro-Trump accounts
Josiah Sanders
This. National Socialism and Fascism are fairly popular on iFunny.
Angel Hernandez
I want to be fascist but I hate 90% of my people.
How do I fasc?
William Gray
Not antifa precisely, just some guys that where equating ecological regulations with totalitarianism. They where also climate change deniers.
Adrian Morris
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Ryan Martinez
Question. In a week or so there's gonna be some anti-racist/fascist community forum happening near me that's being put on by my local antifa and some other group of autistic lefties. How should I fuck with them?
Parker Miller
Fascism is retarded.
The reason why the international symbol for fascism is a bundle of sticks? Because you're all fucking faggots.
Kill yourself.
Isaac Richardson
>France >Celtic cross
Wat
Juan Bell
Fuck hitler, he ruined Fascism and destroyed Mussolini's dreams and his 20+ years of work
William King
90% of your people being here in our country? And well, while I do hate many of them here, I'd wish I didn't have to hate them. We simply have to love our land and country, and wish the complete best for it and its people. Thats all you need, hating the current state of the people nowadays should be a good motivation.
Ian Ward
What is their incentive to innovate and become more efficient, how will it compete with a capitalist state
Camden Peterson
Best leave it alone for now, that or subtlety infiltrate them. Act like one of them and try not to reveal your power level, its just the one of you, while many are probably autistic and fat or scrawny. You'd definitely be outnumbered.
Jason King
Well it represents strength through unity but okay m8
Henry Reed
Don't play their game m8, we're all allies. He unfortunately lost, while that attributed to the mistakes he made in the war, realize what they were fighting for, the same thing every other fascist was against and wanted freedom from. National socialism worked for the german people, as every countrys fascism differs a bit.
Owen Phillips
For my fellow burgers, what do you think about American Futurism?
Leo Hernandez
By not allowing (((people))) or groups to manipulate the economy and system, keeping things in check. Keeping the quality of life well and stable for every working citizen of the state.
Fuck Al Gore, but I believe that even if human made climate change is not real (it is probably wildly exaggerated) ecological conservation and safeguards are the most important policies that any government may enact. Even if you take manmade climate change out of the equation, it is only one kind of ecological degradation, one of many and they are all very dengerous.
Fascism is a joke. Mussolini was a joke. He flip-flopped so damn much. How was he not corrupt? Doling out favors to special interests and corporations for what you perceive to be the good of those who support you is by no means good for the whole of the people. What you do is create cults of personality just like all the other flawed, fucked up systems. Authoritarianism fails, constantly fails, because the truth of the matter is in every nation there is a sleeping giant of people. The proletariat. The people you call plebs. The common citizen. The non voter. The disenfranchised. The poor, the middle class, and even a small minority of rich who simply don't want to control people, they just want people to be at peace and be able to share love with each other. These people outnumber you. But then your rallying cry for fascism always calls for flawed hero worship, and it turns into a fancy, convoluted monarchy propped up by protected corporations and monopolies. How is this good for the people, by FORCING co-operation and limiting choice? Shouldn't people be allowed to voluntarily co-operate? Why should you force labor onto people who don't want it? Why should you force people to be industrious who don't want it? Why should you threaten death on non-contributors to your industries? This is the problem with fascism, it hates volition. It hates free will and free choice. This is why it fails. The majority will always favor freedom, no matter how weak you perceive them to be, they are still stronger than you ever will be. Don't take their silence as weakness. Don't assume the only ones who disagree with you are democrats or goofy keyboard ninja whiny liberals who don't have guns. There are many who also believe we have a second amendment to protect volition from people like you.
Camden Williams
advocating for ultra advanced Utopian society with ultimate progressions on science and technology, yet remaining traditional values. Very similar to fascism, as the movement arised during the fascist era.
Christian Allen
Yes, 90% of the American population are complete degenerate assholes who expand their hedonist lifestyle at the expense of others.
Fascism is all about strength through unity but I feel no unity with anyone in this country. I am an outcast.
Joshua Long
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Liam Roberts
How did Mussolini get into power if Italians literally hate each other? Was fascism really what united them? And did Mussolini really have that much support?
Jace Powell
Your so called liberty equates to being a slave of kikes, rather be the slave of your country
Luke Garcia
well for starters fascism has never failed, war destroying the country is not an excuse. Spain lasted until 74 with Francos death, and the socialists immediately taking power, and now Spains economy is a shithole. Absolute free will is an illusion, certainly led our world and society to a great stance today amirite? Pedophilia on the brink of being normalized, sounds great.
Adam Evans
Because Mussolini was a chronic manipulator and a liar. His father raised him to be socialist, and he grew up originally with very liberal ideologies. He originally as a youth fought authorities in promotion of freedom of speech. But then when he started gaining ground in socialist networks and newspapers as a writer and propagandist, his views grew ever increasingly more radical, until eventually he convinced the people the socialists were the badguys and turned against his own party and had his own people arrested and started silencing freedom of speech. Ironic right?
Hudson Rogers
If you hate the way the average American lives their life, then make yourself to serve as a model for how they should be living.
In a sea of degeneracy and darkness, you should be the light that sticks out like a sore thumb for everybody to see. When somebody you know thinks of a fascist, they should be thinking of you.
Chase Kelly
In all due time m8, hang in there. Join a fascist group, look up american vanguard.
Jason Howard
And maybe if you're going to be a certain political ideology, maybe have some sort of solid foundation that isn't dickheaded and fucking control-freakish? Maybe let people have some fucking liberty rather than thinking its okay to force people to bend to your will? That shit only lasts so long until uprisings fucking overthrow.
Brayden Lewis
After ww1 Mussolini largely realized socialism was a failure. >his own people arrested You realize these were marxist rats? Socialist, communist supporting filth. Removing them is a requirement
Jason Brooks
Worked for 20 years and most likely would've kept going if the war hadn't struck, I'd say it was successful.
Thomas Cox
Lol! >there are lolbertarians right now that equate environmentalism with fascism
Christian Phillips
Mussolini and Stalin are both equally shitbags. Lead your fucking self.
Kayden Williams
How do you remove an oppressive leader under fascism? There must be some form of democratic impeachment.
Bentley Miller
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Jace Morris
>liberty It appeals to our human instinct, greed, we want more and more. With this comes the utter result of our stagnant and decayed modern society, one degeneracy gets accepted, and then the next, and the next
Joseph Wood
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Nathaniel Lewis
That was not Hitler's fault and you know it. (((They))) would have never let it work, regardless of what Hitler did. It goes directly against (((them))) and they would have found a way to subtly destroy it sooner or later.
John Torres
Until someone like you comes along and says I can't give cannabis to a sick relative to help them fight their cancer, and you come along with your arbiters of justice to lock me into a cage, shoot my animals, call me degenerate, take away my ability to find gainful employment, so you can stock up your prisons with people just like me so you can get a cut of the pie that the Mafia ponzi schemers helped to come up with, so you can get your palms greased..... eventually shit like this reaches a breaking point, and all out war, and the people seeking freedom always win, always, always, always
Cameron Morgan
You first, anarchist retard. I'd love to see you try and survive in that state of society, no gods no masters amirite? Yeah, lets see how long that takes until it looks like a post apocalyptic shithole.
Jaxson Gutierrez
>Mussolini and Stalin are equally bad It's time to go back
Chase Price
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Zachary Sanchez
Jesus, do you get all your education from portrayals of a fascist society from movies? Literally nothing like that would happen, If cannabis for medicinal use has been approved by the state then there will be no problem.
Carson Barnes
Are you implying that human beings seek only freedom, dont make me laugh
Oliver Davis
Okay Annarchyfag. I'm sure when the ebil state is gone and you have all your freedumbs, the Russo-Chinese invaders will respect the NAP when they attack your defenseless once nation.
Joshua Powell
lmao, I come back to this thread and find this shit. You clearly have no understanding of what fascism actually is, seeing as you think it is just a political ideology seeking to 'force people to bend to our will'.
Get the fuck out of here, anarkiddie.
Grayson Gomez
The chances of that happening in a fascist society are very slim, but you can be sure if he was truly straying from the way of fascism and not doing what was best for the state, but the best for himself, you can be sure he would not last long. Everyone would be against him, at that point either forced removal or resignation will most likely happen.
Eli Perry
Kek is on our side! The only digits in this thread are pro-Fascist posts!
Brayden Green
Woah, I never even checked if I had gotten digits.
Levi Barnes
I almost got quads
Luke Gonzalez
I noticed that I had gotten triples and someone else posted and also got triples, so I went through and found all the digits. And actually in the time it took me to post another one got doubles against the anarchist.
Gavin Thomas
> I can't give cannabis to a sick relative to help them fight their cancer If cannabis or any other substance can be proven scientifically to have therapeutically proprieties, it would be legal to use it THERAPEUTICALLY.
>your arbiters of justice to lock me into a cage Would it be better to have a society without courts? Then only those with the power to exercise violence would have rights.
>shoot my animals Your animals would be safe as long as you take responsibility for them and make sure they don't inconvenience or attack other people.
>take away my ability to find gainful employment. In Fascism the sate wants you to have gainful employment, it would make it easier for you to do so.
Benjamin Garcia
Fascism is Italian only, everybody else fuck off and refer to your own traditional ethics.
Connor Ward
On the subject of justice and the State, you should read the Republic by Plato. Interesting book.
Jaxon Morris
All you "know" about Fascism comes from lies and propaganda, your concept of it is false.
At least try to inform yourself about it before pretending to oppose it.
Hunter Russell
Oswald Mosley, Corneliu Codreanu, Franco, Salazar, and others would disagree. Fascism was popular in many different countries.
Ryan Adams
Italian fascism is Italian only, fascism is meant to be used and is able to be molded and adapted to every country to fit their situation and needs.
Joseph Diaz
Mosley was a foreign stooge, Iron Guard was it's own movement, Falangism and Francoism are their own things, Salazar too. Fascism is Italian Nationalism, Totalitarianism and Corporatism.
Lincoln Kelly
Kek against degeneracy!
Ryan Carter
Updated GETs list: Non-Fascists btfo
Juan Miller
Say an ISIS fascist state arose in your country. They instituted Sharia law, converted everyone to Islam upon pain of death, and basically did ISIS stuff.
Is that kind of fascism bad? Assume the populace has been disarmed and the Islamists have sufficient strength to maintain their government.
Ian Davis
Not it wasn't, you're just lumping different movements together because they look similar in a democratic, majority rules, biggest dick defines everything logic.
Lincoln Nguyen
Kek is a giant faggot.
Elijah Moore
They are all but variations of Fascism, based on the same principles and modified. Nice divide and conquer though, Schlomo
Jack Ramirez
Fascism again is not the same for every country, Mussolini created the guidelines for it. Other countrys tweak it, adjust a few things to fit their environments, and all examples have worked wonderfully if used in the country.
Owen Murphy
How are you pro-fascism when your culture is incompatible with fascism?
Really the only similarities sharia has is its authoritarianism and even stricter surveillance, plus, its islam. So its a no go
Jack Morris
All things are based on the same thing; Morality. Nice retard and hurr-durr though, ahkmood
No, go read the Doctrine of Fascism and shut up. They're all completely different.
Read the Doctrine of Fascism and understand the danger of doublespeak
Juan Brown
Gonna repost this from another thread because I wanna see what you guys think:
I want to be a fascist, but I'm having trouble thinking past common criticisms of non-democratic systems.
Without suffrage (universal or otherwise), how do those with no direct say respond to decisions or systems they feel are harming them or their communities? Wouldn't resentment build in those cases leading to revolutionary movements and violence?
How do you assure that a fascist ruling party doesn't descend into oligarchy? Can selfish materialist incentives ever be completely overcome? How can it be assured that leaders will be both good and capable?
To put it another way, how does fascism tackle the question of tyranny that gripped the American founding fathers? Does it care at all for individual liberty? I dislike that the American tradition fetishizes liberty for liberty's sake, and I understand that it can be an emergent property of a well-functioning system that emphasizes duty and honor, but I feel like there has to be more to it that I'm missing.
[This isn't meant to shill for democracy as some people thought last thread, I understand that these problems are not necessarily solved by democratic means either]
