Hey miners, robots don't give a shit about your working class culture

>You're a miner. Your daddy was a miner (dead at 42). Your granddaddy was a miner (dead at 35). Your great gra… so you think your sons and grandsons should also get some infrequent unreliable dangerous shitwork in their lives too. Because tradition.
>Well I've got news for you and your posterity:
>>Rio Tinto intends its automated operations in Australia to preview a more efficient future for all of its mines—one that will also reduce the need for human miners. The rising capabilities and falling costs of robotics technology are allowing mining and oil companies to reimagine the dirty, dangerous business of getting resources out of the ground.

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i assume a scrawny jew wrote this

>brooklynbadboy

Fukn laffen

> be a liberal
> overjoyed at middle class jobs being replaced by machines
> fight tooth and nail to prop up fast food jobs with $15 minimum wage

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Automation makes sense when labor is the most expensive part of the process. It doesn't make sense when you have a huge machine whose operation alone costs as much as 100 salaries. And self-driving, self-maintaining, self-repairing machines are a long shot.

Jesus Christ what a fag.
But when automation actually becomes realistically feasible for most work, regulation protecting humans will be in order.

I need to see if I can figure out how to program something to automatically write news articles.

>Lord's name in vain
>implying something it's not as I am actually one and you talk outta your ass
Makes me wanna watch more friendlyjordies on youtube

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Its like he can't have a conversation about a topic without being a hateful asshole

I bet you a hundred dollars a human has to ride in the thing just in case.

the jobs aren't all going away, they're getting cushier and they come with fancy new titles. You're not a truck driver, you're an automated dump truck supervisor.

Oh yea, in your dreams after all.
There is still a lot of human activity at mining involved, full automated mining is still possible only your deams.
Most of dangerous parts of the job had been replaced with robots a long time ago and going in full auto is never possible.
Some prosess can be made full automated but bot everything.

Cant wait until smug liberal bloggers are replaced by ai

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Off by 1 again

The Nu-Left.

Off by 1 again again

what a cunt

>beleive

lol loser

Australia is fucking finished holy shit

Maybe next time?

If we build machines to do the work for us wouldn't it mean a higher quality of life? Surely they would plan out the robotic revolution and look after its citizens by then.

kek

WWKD

Its not an open road. Those trucks can easily be left alone they know each others positions and its a predictable scenario. If something is wrong the truck simply stops and an enginner will check it out.

Some people think the rich are not going to take care of the poor because they are no longer needed and production owners could just trade with each other (no poor people money needed).

Hey paper pushers, expert systems can do the job of 100 of you.

I wouldn't be gloating if I were you lmao.

Most people are retards and buy into the robots meme. Even most on Sup Forums buy this meme, not realizing it is just a marketing scheme to pump up tech stocks

name a job that cant be replaced by strong human level AI

you literally cant

And your proof is?

What's so hard? Add some drumpfs, literally hitlers, diversity, some fancy words and one liner jokes, a picturebarely related to the matter and you got HuffingtonBot 1.0

>human level AI
>human level

Implying anything even remarkably close to the ball park has been achieved so far in robotics or automation despite decades of science, research and hard work

YouTube search term "Hand Expression"

Actually, most Australian mines have banned the use of automatons vehicles after one went ape shit and destroyed a lot of things.


You are forgetting that you still need people to work at places like that and if the people say they will not work with robots the deal is over.

Say thanks to free market.

Wouldn't these robots need Lube Technicians?

This guy is really mad at poor white people who enjoy low standards of living. Strange behavior.

>Your mom doesn't already employ all of them

You don't build the machines.
The people with the capital do to grow their capital.
Capitalism fails at that level unless you put everyone who lost their job on welfare or invent a bunch of new jobs.

There were significant improvments over the last decade. Somethings are so complex it will take a while until they crystalline in 30 years or so you should see the result. Google made a visual cortex which actually works like the brain recently. Its very impressive that it works the almost the same way the real thing does and gives the same results. Its just not commercially available yet its all research which is why nobody knows but we made remarkable breakthroughs in the past 5 years.

knowing more than reddit tier economics. Luddites have been wrong for 300 years. They arent suddenly right now

>hey fast food workers...

Funnily enough this guy's article operates as an automated salt mine.

>enployed as security
>won't be replaced by automation until they can build reliable versions of pic related (not any time soon)
>will only get more work as others become poorer and turn to crime
Feels good mang

Employed*

Fucking touchscreen

non. Jobs in the primary and secondary industries have dropped through the flaw in the last 50 years due to mechanisation.

It already exists
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>(although she was of the dubious opinion that it would be a “tailwind” for the UK economy).
HUMAN JOURNALISTS BTFO

Having worked at a competitors open cut mine I can tell you
>they work on closed roads
>they don't go more than 20km an hour
>they are only profitable at middle of fucking know here mines, because the company can't afford fly in fly out drivers who are paid like 135k minimum, and have to be housed, fed etc on site.

That's what i was implying. Government would step in otherwise it'll be chaos.

Yea but until those things become practical and needed in some way and then made cheap enough to manufacture on a large scale no actual progress will be made in regards to what op is talking about, basically what everyone's been afraid of for decades, it's just a boogeyman of what could be at this point

Luddites, stop posting here using devil technology. Etch memes on wood and send them to others by horse courier.

>minimum wage
Do leftists honestly believe coal miners get paid $10 an hour?

What is this asshole's problem? Why is he so ecstatic at the idea of people losing jobs?
I thought lefties were so post to be empathetic and tolerant.

Because they think they're better than blue collar workers and veiw them as a lower class to be mocked. They see a person's level of formal education/university degree as a measure of that persons worth.

He wouldn't have a fucking clue what a miner makes m8. It's a totally separate world than the one he lives in. Same reason that a billionaire probably wouldn't know the cost of basic groceries the average person buys each week.

>he doesn't embroid memes on tapestry and hang them on the town square
>he doesn't get (you)s in the form of other serfs hanging their tapestries next to his

I think we can't oppose the rise in automation.
Looking at the thread a lot of you don't even understand how good it is ai and automation right now.
So we need to thinks of when it happens, not if it happens.

And a question I haven't seen answered, but I haven't even seen asked often is not about the single person losing the job, but about how this break the current economic system and how can it be changed.

Sure, automation auments the productivity and reduces man hours needed to make something, but taking this to the extreme we will have machines working continuosly to produce stuff nobody can afford since all works are automated and nobody has an income.
This is the real paradox about automation and we already witness this effect just with the increase productivity of machine working with people in factories, and not instead of people.

I think we've already crossed the line of a good equilibrium between production and people needed to make something.
They have so far tries to overcome the problem of excess production with planned obolescence and stuff breaking as soon as the warranty expires, but we've reached the point this doesn't work anymore. So what's next?
This is the real question I've never seen asked, not just "what will average Joe do without his job".

>tl;dr
Automation breaks economy because robots produce stuff nobody can buy since they have no job/income.
What do WHEN this happens?

That sounds pretty /comfy/ desu

>billionaires probably wouldn't know the cost of basic groceries
...I knew there was a reason I saved this

Exactly what I thought reading this now for the first time since when it was initially published.

>7 limes

lol what the fuck?

>7 limes
>1 tomato
>a whole clove of garlic

mexican fucking love limes

I know man, you need at least one per meal to get any decent garlic flavour.

>Kale
>7 Limes
>Parsley
>One garlic bulb
>One onion
>One avocado
>One sweet potato
>Mini tortillas
>Spring onions
>Romaine lettuce
>Only a small bag of rice

I actually had that exact poat in mind, just couldn't remember which dipshit actress posted it.

Funny shit

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They pay those miners an absolute shitload to go up there and support those massive machines, it's such a dangerous, boring and unpleasant job that they can demand those wages. If anything this is one of the better areas to automate first because the workers demand so much pay for really quite basic work.

>Most people are retards and buy into the robots meme
No you're a retard.

Wot if we put working class joes inside the robots?

I don't know if governments would let any of that happen. If all of our curencies are based on debt and people going into debt to produce more money, and they're trying to set up central banks in every country, how would millions of people not working not crash the system?

I don't know anything but this post needed a (you)

>Sane people think the rich are not going to take care of the poor
FTFY

Look at how much they bitch about having to support a tiny minority of the working classes for a temporary time with the heopes that they'll get a job again, you really think they'll sign on board for supporting most of the population forever?

Also how many people who once worked for a living and had a decent salary do you think are going to be willing to accept living on welfare forever? Many of them would rather die.

I think people get way more than that. I think a guy I knew said he got like $200-$300 a month. Not too sure on that though. But I remember it being a considerable amount. He was eating steak and lobster every night.

Apparently those poor workers want to work those miserable horrible jobs, it's not that they've been forced to by the brutal realities of the economic system we live under. What in the fuck happened to the left?

Avocado
Look at this rich fucker.

>gleefully talk down on manual labourers being replaced by robots
>ignores the "women" friendly white collar jobs about to disappear with growing advances in AI

they have no idea how hard that shit is going to hit communication and data entry jobs

What if we put robots inside the working class joes?

Why do liberals have such contempt for people who work with their hands for a living? The Democrats used to filled with commies who fond endlessly over workers. So when did the workers become part of the oppressor class?

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When they started voting right wing because the left was raping them and expecting to be thanked for it

>Automation makes sense when labor is the most expensive part of the process
It makes sense where ever the investment pays itself.

This.

It screams "i hate white people and refuse to acknowledge poverty from anyone lighter than a Turk." No one wants to work in mines, they don't want their sons to do that work, they want their sons pushing the buttons on those robots. The ideal is to sustain yourself and still have the energy to better yourself after you clock off.

Everyone wants the automated technocracy besides people who are vicariously resentful that some people simply can't contribute to this.

Want to "get" affirmative action, why it's only in STEM and what really motivates it? (((They're))) worried people will realise that only white men (okay and some Asians) are any decent, since no one else has the balance of creativity and intelligence which makes innovating new technology so easy, and that this very technocracy will mean an inegalitarian society.

Meanwhile, we're worried that (((they're))) helping the idiots so much that the idiots aren't dying out from being unattractive NEETs like they're meant to. Instead, you're more likely to find a white man with a STEM degree that's a NEET (and thus struggles to get laid without bullshitting hard) and you're more likely to find a black man getting laid despite living in poverty. This isn't natural. This is weird. This is impossible without a compliant media pushing a certain hot black guy narrative.

And it's all because they're worried about the inevitable, that intelligence will become the only marketable skills.

Thanks.

This rises a point about the second thing that worries me most about the current economical system and where we're heading.

It's an economy based on debt, interests and constant growth to pay those interests.
A system that doesn't accomodate for stagnation or even a decrease in production is fucked and nearsighted, but that's what we're stuck with and I can't see how we can transition to something more versatile that can accomodate for a plateau or economic decrease.

Same with how the pension system works, needing population growth to keep paying for the non-productive population.

We're reaching a point where these three factors are screwing everyone majorly and we can even say people work to mantain the system, at the cost of making big sacrifices instead of having a system working for people well being and almost nobody is questioning at its core, but only small chunks at a time withouth seeing the big picture.
And it doesn't look like politicians or experts ever talk about this as well.

I have no answers, only questions, but those questions scare the fuck outta me an I have to numb myself with chink cartoons in my free time not to think about it since I can't do a single thing to change it.

Sorry for the rambling, but at least I'm not losing my shit over 7 limes.

why do liberals hate the working class with such a burning passion?

>So when did the workers become part of the oppressor class?
When most of the workers are conservative white males and so they don't need no protection anymore since they are the bad guys.

You are too quick to assume that this idiot is actually happy about "Working Class" losing jobs.

I bet he imagines himself like some kind of revolutionary who uses his mad orator skills to raise awareness of evil capitalism.
Too bad he sounds like an disrespectful asshole, and no honest blue collar would listen to him.
Middle class lefties who think that they would lead proletariat are too naive to even look up history.
Because, when miner Joe would get angry enough to smash someone's face, it would be very surprised face of scrawny internet "journalist" with blue hair and thick-rimmed glasses.

>Same with how the pension system works, needing population growth to keep paying for the non-productive population.

I think a big problem with this is property taxes. If the elderly could just live their lives on their savings and not have to keep paying taxes then maybe they would be better off. Still though, inflation is higher than most interest in our banks so you have to invest your money, but a lot of people didn't do that. Or like my grandpa, the pension from his company is gone now because the company went bankrupt.

I don't know. Maybe all this mass immigration is all calculated. They want to destroy Europe and the Anglosphere so we can never unite and get rid of the central banks. Then if there is ever such a thing as basic income no one could rise against their control because they could just cut you off if you were a problem to the state.

This is why Liberalism is dying.

feels good man

>mfw I know of a job in the mining industry that pays HEAPS, has no background training required, and will have more positions open up as automation increases the amount of mines opened and reopened (already they are on the constant lookout for workers, it's legit just a firm handshake and you got the job)
>mfw I'm not going to tell any of you what it is
Eat shit faggots.

>Believing upside-down leafs.

(you)

I'll be honest with you mate, you're likely to get deep vein thrombosis from all the travel you will do working there. That's legit the only downside.

This

These retards don't realize that they are the bourgeoisie class. They actually think they would be part of the revolution.

I can't wait until robots can write shitty blogs. Sick of these people.

I'm not sure about the tax cut for elders.
At least accounting for how the welfare works here in Italy, maybe in USA could work since things are a bit different.
Since we have free healthcare for the important stuff, or just a basic, flat fee for other stuff, detaxing elders would mean losing the income the state gets from them, while having to spend the exact same amount for their cures and assistance.

It could maybe improve the economy letting elders spend more but it would take a huge toll on the welfare.
Beside most of the retired are the privileged ones, having already a better income than the workers.
And yet in most places they are eligible for discounts after 65.

Sorry about your gramps.
With the system as it is here that could never have happened since the money comes from a single agency where everybody puts their funds for retirement and then get them back when they actually retire.

Some of those problem are really bad here in Italy and I don't think you can imagine how much.
Like, unemployment for

>Deep vein Thrombosis

>Caused by travelling

Full of shit confirmed. You get deep vein thrombosis from staying still for very long periods of time or if you have a particular medical condition that causes it.

>mfw I know a guy doing security for a mine site that gets $50p/h to sit around playing vidya all day because no one ever trys to break into his section (spoiler, because it's in the middle of the fucking desert). The company only has him to save on insurance.
>mfw that guy's not me

>Miners will lose their jobs by robots

>miners become mining robot operators and surveyors.

L O fucking L


liberals are really living in a backwards culture.

Well, I'll not even live long enough to be diagnosed with that shit.
Melanoma and Heat exhaustion induced heart attack comes first.

I wonder where one should start with this picture. The extremely strange composition of the foodstuffs, the mismatch between them and the price, misrepresented amount of money or the fact that a family of two adults and two children can live for a week on even those items.

On a second thought I'm not well versed in how much all that green stuff that should be 3€/kg costs in Burgerland.

Yeah mate because being on flights from one side of the planet to the other, only to be called out to another job back on the other side of the planet again for sure won't increase your risk of DVT.