Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
>it will work one day and then millions will die but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try again and kill millions but that wasn't real communism so let's try
Jordan Harris
Hi comrade ,why the personal attacks?
Wyatt Nguyen
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Robert Gonzalez
>there are still people stupid enough to fall for communism >mfw
>In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
>In one word, you reproach us with intending to do away with your property. Precisely so; that is just what we intend.
>It has been objected that upon the abolition of private property, all work will cease, and universal laziness will overtake us. According to this, bourgeois society ought long ago to have gone to the dogs through sheer idleness; for those of its members who work, acquire nothing, and those who acquire anything do not work.
>Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.
>The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality. The working men have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got.
>“There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.”
Reporting in for the UK comerades! Don't let the cuckitalists win! Sup Forums is now a Communist board with a capital C!
When did you realise Communism was the only social system that could save the world?
Nathan Mitchell
Fake news my man :^)
Carter Reed
Lol mate look around you America will be Communist in no time :)
Jace Garcia
fuck you this is our thread to talk about being made officers and getting special wages and free stuff and being the new elites
My gender studies prof said the revolution will be different this time and not to read any books except the communist manifesto so i would prefer it if you would preface the mass murder useful idiots, totalitarianism stuff with a trigger warning or just fuck off
Juan Garcia
right on sista viva la revolution lets go try our uniforms on and snapchat them to eachother
Juan Bailey
real communism and capitalism has never been tried too
Cameron Morris
>"lol commies are so gay dressing up in uniforms like poofters" >Goes and puts on his nazi uniform and fucks his anime pillow. Lol fuck off faggot we have more of a chance at Communism than you'll ever have at German LARPing
Ryder Rodriguez
Why don't you move to best korea, cuba or venezuela if you like commies so much?
Noah Fisher
kill yourself commieshit
Elijah Cook
Mum said you have to get off the computer and clean your room. *makes love sign with fist*
Grayson Jenkins
No u desu. :^)
Evan Rodriguez
Oh wow you really got me god tier Aussie banter lol XD
Isaac Perez
fuck off yr just jelly of my uniform
Landon Stewart
Mum said you have to be nice to your little sister and you promised I could play along. Can i borrow your che t shirt to go to starbucks?
William Murphy
>when your ideology is so retarded it can be refuted by shitty Sup Forums memes
Elijah Reyes
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Ian Mitchell
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James Gutierrez
Fuck your Jewish Communism.
Jordan Garcia
My big sister says she gets all your addresses from the internet and her fluid friends from patriarchy of fruit classification class are gonna come around and bash you nazis
Ryan Bailey
>Spain >Wants to be even poorer Top vev
Grayson Richardson
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Anthony Kelly
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Tyler Wood
Sage
Jacob Morgan
>Le commie Starbucks Guarentee you go there more often than I.
Jonathan Walker
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Nicholas Long
>hahaa commieball lol Not an argument my man :^)
Austin Nguyen
Haven't seen the Spanish Commie in a while. How's it going, Comrade Cuckiño?
Jason Peterson
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Luke Gutierrez
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Jaxon Bailey
>Comrades Shouldn't you wait until Trump has been getting assfucked for a few months at least?
Wyatt Evans
>Haven't seen the Spanish Commie in a while. How's it going, Comrade Cuckiño?
Hi comrade, are you still a cuckitalist? Do you want to be liquidated?
Alexander Butler
Wow nice argument.
Samuel Gray
What do you mean I didn't get it
Ethan Flores
Fuck your Jewish Communism, you are the worst humanity has to offer, parasitic scum.
Isaiah Reyes
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James Perez
VETE A LA PUTA MIERDA CON TUS HILOS DIARIOS DE LOS COJONES, GILIPOLLAS.
Matthew Lee
I mean, shouldn't you give people a little while to get used to the puppet state before you start blaring the Shostakovich Piano Concertos and stuff? Nevermind, you still probably don't "get it" lol.
Adam Stewart
Why do you think we keep Lenin's corpse in the center of Moscow? He is immortal. And one day when the time comes he will rise again.
Jayden Brooks
dont be mean we all have anxiety disorders and self esteem issues in here and when you say mean stuff we cut ourselves. i hate myself for being weak when willl we be officers fuck
sorry i got blood on your che t shirt
Alexander Walker
You tell your sister and her fruity friends well turn them into vegetables
Parker Ortiz
Calma mariano, viva la república.
Zachary Gray
Yes, I am a capitalist and proud of it. It made me have a job, a decent life where I won't starve. And I don't need welfare unlike the pathetic basement-dwelling neckbeard you are
Samuel Morgan
Your an idiot if you think communism is good.
Chase Brown
It's always the same Spaniard making this thread.
Dominic Wood
Bootlicker cuck!
Zachary James
Did I expose how much of a pathetic failure in life you are for you to resort to blatant name-calling? You gotta try harder than that...
Ian Anderson
How do you know it's the same guy? Are all American threads one guy?
Mason Wright
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Jose Sullivan
stop this bad joke already
Leo Nguyen
I all advise you to use a Sup Forums filter with the words "communism general", this is the best way tokill this kind of thread
Liam Diaz
I'm fine here with you comrades.
Mason Garcia
Go back to /leftypol/ you filthy communist
Wyatt Jones
Immigrate to Russia and live in a commie block you parasitic pot smoking welfare leech.
When we make the lovefist sign we are really signalling that we want to be fisted hard by nazis and when they shove their big strong arms all the way up to their elbows they wink and say "check my privilege now you nasty bitches" and we squirt and then hate ourselves a little bit more for letting ourselves be oppressed by such strong, beautiful, masculine men. i hate myself for even thinking about it fuck no i hate dick im commielezbo revolution sista *lovefist* fuuuuuuuuuuu i came again
Elijah Adams
Literally not an argument
Carter Young
Have you ever been to Spain? is already full of blocks like that.
Oliver Foster
This thread again, do you even rest my moorman?
Alexander Martinez
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Lucas Bailey
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Thomas Kelly
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Cameron Reed
We have a few problems with this idea:
> Long-term functional consensus (autonomy) among the "proletariat" requires education that specifically addresses critical thinking ability.
> There are massive lobbies, both religious and capitalist, dead-set against the idea of improving the critical thinking ability of the general public. Churches will dissolve, vanity products will become more difficult to market, people will manage their debt better, local authority will tend to structure itself around reason and not rank, etc... Very profitable and distracting wars will become impossible to justify in front of a prudent, scrutinizing public.
> Schools here presently do not focus on critical thinking. For example, many still teach creationism as truth. Unsurprisingly, their curricula tend to avoid subjects like first-order logic, which require only a basic understanding of any language in which the material can be obtained.
> Change requires incentive to implement. The general public is presently, at large, only responsive to monetary or very simplistic emotional incentives. Autonomy is complicated (requires more than a sentence or two to explain); the target demographic, as it were, does not have the attention span. Developing that attention span further requires fighting vast interests working to prevent this, which itself requires providing an even more effective (possible much more complicated) motivation to get people moving. A catch-22.
You'd think crushing debt, endless mortgages & foreclosures, un-repayable student loans, and so on would be enough of a reason to seek out alternatives. The problem is that we can't reach consensus because there are too many divergent philosophies, too many self-interested lobbies, etc...
Jason Bennett
Watch out faggot, the Chilean Navy saw Pinochet recently. Now he's got a sweet whip and poison gas
Aaron Garcia
dunno havent read anything but my sister says its cool and trudeau is a spunk so whatevs *lovefist*