How did NATO/Europe lose Crimea to Russia?

Just how? HOW DOES THIS MASSIVE """""MILITARY ALLIANCE"""" lose a piece of it's land to Russia?

is america/europe confirmed kill now?

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kosovo advisory opinion,you reap what you sow i guess

"Europe", please call it Asia or something

>Ukraine
>NATO

>How did NATO/Europe lose Crimea to Russia?
Because your take is on the wrong level. You should ask why part of Ukraine was willing to join Russia and not stay under Ukrainian control.

Aussie education much?

Crimea river.

The peninsula defected and invited the Russians, then had a vote on whether to join it and the majority voted in favour. Been a Russian province ever since.

Perhaps it's the fact that this happened through democracy that stings the EU the most.

NATO is a defensive pact.

Ukraine is not a part of the pact.

The 90% russians living in crimea voted on a referendum to leave.

Although the referendum was illegitimate according to the ukrainian law, for the most part crimeans want to be part of russia.

The same precedent happened in kosovo that the USA/the west supported.

>We didn't want Crimea anyway, it was their choice to leave.
>We didn't want the Ukraine anyway.
>We didn't want Poland anyway.
>We didn't want Germany anyway.
>We didn't want France anyway.

The people apparently majority voted for it.

Kosovo resulted in an independent state, Crimea was annexation. Two totally different outcomes that have nothing to do with one another.

Due to the precedence set by the Kosovo independence which was supported by the west because it was democratic, the EU, NATO, and the USA have their hands tied with Crimea.

>Australia
It wasn't a NATO country ya fucking dingus. And Europe didn't lose it, it's still in the same place it always was. Did you think the Russians dug it up and put on a trailer?

>Article 5 of Ukrainian constitution says that the only source of sovereignty and political power in Ukraine are the people themselves.
>People can directly put its power into practise or commit it to institutions of central or local government.
>This power cannot be usurped by the state or any official, whatever means they have obtained political power, including bloodshed.
Seems pretty clear-cut then, that the referendum is entirely legal.

Funny enough this article is directly contradicted by one of the later articles. I want to say Article 83, but that's likely dead wrong.

Ukraine isn't a member state of NATO so we weren't going to risk open confrontation with another nuclear power over them.

Had Ukraine joined NATO, they'd still have Crimea.

Neither Russia nor the US wants a direct military confrontation, too much at stake.

>independent states don't have the right to decide to join another country

yeah not really mate, they declared independence first which was perfectly legal after which they joined the russian federation (again perfectly legal)
i know it's a bunch of technicalities but that's how international law works unfortunately

They didn't. Ukraine isn't in NATO.

They are majority ethnic Russian in the Crimean peninsula so I'm not surprised they voted to leave but i'm pretty sure that referendum came after Russia had already occupied.

I think the vote was bogus as many would be intimidated while being surrounded by soldiers of an invading military.

Russia is weaker in comparison but it's more cunning.

>Polling by the Razumkov Centre in 2008 found that a majority of Crimeans would like Crimea to secede from Ukraine and join Russia (63.8%), and at the same time to preserve its current status, but with expanded powers and rights (53.8%). Razumkov characterized Crimeans' views as confused, unsteady, and sometimes contradictory and therefore vulnerable to internal and external influences.[26] Polling conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) in 2013 found that 36% of respondents in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea wanted Ukraine to unite with Russia. A poll by the International Republican Institute in May 2013 found that 67% wanted to remain in Ukraine and 23% wanted unity with Russia.[27] By early February 2014, just days before the ousting of Viktor Yanukovych, support had risen to 41% in a subsequent KIIS poll.[28][29] According to a poll conducted by Gfk in the days leading up to the referendum, 70% of Crimeans who intended to participate in the referendum planned to vote to join Russia, while 11% planned to vote to remain part of Ukraine.[30]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_2014#Background

>Ukraine
>NATO

Leaf proxy, I'm guessing.