French Revolution

Was it chill or nah?

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Pretty chill imho

Well it is pretty much the direct cause of degenerate democracies today so what do you think.

Spend a couple of years killing aristocrats before appointing some dude emperor? Pretty damn pointless

>battles, executions, throwing away major institutions, and riot
>was it chill

Robespierre had no chill

Lots of good shit there. A lot of innocent people died, but there's no avoiding that in a revolution.

Thankfully, we've learned to use democracy to accomplish long-term stability and comfort for all citizens.

The destruction of French monarchy, ultimately fomented by British masons.

Out of the old monarchies only Britain remains.

Youre a fucking mong. The french revolution was the result of rabid aristocracy, which even Thomas Jefferson warned of. It was a good thing. And ensured the people still held the power. If you want to blame our current political system, blame it on the corrupt politicians who created loopholes to receive ungodly compwnsation for their public service, both foreign and domestic, then blame the marxists who degraded our culture internally, the people who are no better then unamerican naziboo faggots like yourself.

Wasn't chill at all dude - pretty fucking pointless. In it's earlier stages it was successful but in the end a monarchy was restored after like, 8 years.

t. Robespierre

I agree, it was not nearly as succesful as the american revolution, but held the same principles. But the French really never have been good at looking out for their best interests.

>TFW I will never be a part of the the Thermidorian Reaction and execute leftists Jacobin faggots for executing based Louis VXI

He shouldn't have witheld the grain, but goddamn the Jacobins were horrible.

>He thinks the French Revolution was a good thing

Wew lad you don't have to be a 1488 traditionalist fag to admit how stupid it was. Jacobins were the intellectual forefathers of communists.

>same principles

oh SH*T no

The American revolution was for native representation in an aristocratic republican type matter. Most politicians in America support the ancient regime or the moderate noble revolutionaries and not the democratic mobocracy that overwhelmed them.

Robespierre did nothing wrong
Also,
>tfw you will never be Philippe Egalite

The aristocracy had it coming. The worst excesses and disgusting abuse of power, a real case of the poor being oppressed by tax farming, rent seeking landlords who lived in splendour while the poor were starving.

I'm all for good order and proper hierarchy but the French elites were taking the piss and then going 100 times further.

jews

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>rabid aristocracy

The lesser nobility, aristocrats and local parliaments begat the revolution originally regardless of the level of extremism, but to think that they alone are to blame for the excesses of the revolution is misattributing the crimes of democratic leftist revolt that turned on them as well. The founding fathers were equivalent to the former group.

Horrendous. None of the leaders of the First Republic were poor either.
A genuine bourgeois revolution.

>The aristocracy had it coming

The monarchy was a moderating force against the nobility and the leftist bloodbath and genocide in Vendee was inexcusable.

It was the biggest white chimp out of all time

Cher walking in Memphis, didn't seem to fit

No.

>french subhumans rape and murder while glorious american masterrace was peaceful and civilized.

The clergy were absolute shitters throughout the entirety of the revolution and the centuries preceding it.
Just because Louis XVI wasn't a bad dude doesn't excuse his family's excesses and the ineptitude of the nobility.

Just look at their tax system and law code pre-rev. A total fucking mess.

It was the beginning of the end of Western Civilization, so nah af.

to keep it short:
"The revolution eats its own children"

The nobility and regional parliaments did everything they could to obstruct actual reform by the king in a self-serving manner and that is why a second revolt against them took place as well.

>nazis are bad
>violent revolutions that result in carnage and civil rights are good

Wew lad back 2 the cuckshed

Sorry, what actual reform did XVI attempt? Everything I understood from my own reading is that he went along with the revolution like a frightened puppy.
Is this not the same XVI that agreed to enter the American Revolution and put an additional massive strain on the country's debt?
That alone sealed his fate. It all comes back to money.

Jacobins only came into power 5 years after the revolution though. The initial revolution was relatively tame.

The real lesson of the French Revolution is the easiness with which a new regime, due to lack of experience, can sink into totalitarian nightmares, and not to take for granted the stability granted by a long political tradition, however "unfair" the status quo might be.

The financial and tax reform his ministers (which he alone could appoint) was obstructed by the parliaments which were almost exclusively members of the nobility.

>Jacobins were the intellectual forefathers of communists
No. The socialists were the intellectual forefathers of the Communists. They aren't one in the same.
Only Saint-Just had strong socialist leanings, but no socialist doctrine really existed until 1820 or so.
Robespierre was a definite believer in property rights.

You also had Babeuf who was a proto-communist.

>The initial revolution was relatively tame.
>And ensured the people still held the power

>I don't know what happened during the French Revolution

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storming_of_the_Bastille

Remember this? There was no way this was going to end well , this was foreshadowing a lot to come.

Sup' Burke?

So what's your solution? Constitutional monarchy? That was the plan and the practice for years.
Louis thought it was a bright idea to try to escape to Austria and we all know how that worked for him.

this, lots of french blood for a lot of nothing

No, many of them were literally borderline communists and much of the ideals of the Enlightenment era which was fundementist egalitarianism lead to much of the doctrines of Karl Marx. The French revolution was also a great inspiration to Hegel, although that would more or less be expressed through Napoleon, but still though.

>Laughs in proto fascism

That's anachronistic, user. Socialism didn't even exist yet. Marx was writing on the foundation of Socialist thought developed in the early 19th century.
You're going to have a tough time comparing Enlightenment Liberalism (Republicanism) with socialism. The comparisons begin and end with legal equality (not economic).
Marx wrote about the 2nd Republic. Mostly because it was another bourgeois revolution where they stuck a king on the throne for the sake of "stability" like you were saying.
The king mostly tried to maintain the power of the men that put him on the throne, mainly the wealthy.

Napoleon did nothing wrong.

'rabid aristocracy'? Care to explain?

All that the French Revolution ensured was that the ignorant would inherit the Earth.

>American education

The revolution was an economic and demographic disaster. France never ever recovered. The nail in the coffin was WWI of course.

The nail in the coffin was modernity in general. Nearly every economic, social, and cultural woe today can be attributed to the French Revolution and the ideas that inspired it.

If I had a time machine that would be the first event I would stop.

Well. If I had a time machine I would kill Louis the XIVth. He's the one who expelled all our protestants and ruined the kingdom because of his hubris. The nobility should have won the Fronde. We could have become a constitutional monarchy like the U.K.

they did it in the wrong order.

we will rectify this with Trump.

We show the goddamned human race the correct way to have a revolution (even got ol' based Lafayette to lend a hand) and 6 years later berets just shit the bed. Sad!

>protestants expelled

Good.

>constitutional monarchy

kek
Look how the UK is these days. The queen is only a symbol with no fucking power.
Can't be more cucked than that.

It was the beginning of the end for Europe.

>shit opinion
>from a monkey
no surprise there

Robespierre was God's Angel
Too good for this world