Is Space Exploration Dying/A Waste of Resources

This big fucker is supposed to launch in March. Nobody seems to give a fuck about space exploration anymore. I was fascinated by this shit when I was a kid. I got used to seeing shuttle launches regularly on the NASA channel.

I think last years budget for NASA was 1.7 billion. Are we wasting resources? Isn't that pretty small though compared to the rest of government spending? Is any other government spending under as much scrutiny as NASA? How much has that F-35 cost and the F-22s that they are afraid to break?

I know this is the Falcon Heavy and not technically NASA.

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Space travel is fake news

This. The earth is flat desu

If you think exploration is a waste your fucked. Soon there won't be anywhere else to go but up. Resources are nearly endless, there is so much we could discover, so much we could do, space exploration is the future.

Almost all Scientific and technological break throughs have come due to space research.

It may or may not be a waste of resources.

idgaf

If it were my decision NASA would get much more funding

These. Space is a lie. It's perpetuated to obscure the true nature of our world and make us feel small and unimportant. We are living in a realm under an energetic dome. We are not an accident. The big bang is bullshit. Flat Earth is a psyop but it's closer to the truth than a ball covered in water spinning in space.

Australia is a fake country

Never gonna work, the other galaxies are way too far away.
Unless the aliens share their technology (they won't), your other option is Astral Projection

>Nobody seems to give a fuck about space exploration anymore.
I think there were too many bubbles in their clips and people went drunk.
The scuba tank probably played a part in that.

Why would Canada decide NASAs budget? Does Canada have a space program? No seriously I know it's too high to launch for regular orbits up there, but what are you leafs doing in the space department?

Space travel has allowed for things like GPS and dish networks allowing one to see broadcast channels from other countries instantaneously.

No, humanity must continue to proceed.

So it's made people too stupid to learn to use a map and helped Americans get fat by watching tv?

>Nasa gets 0.0001% of national funding
>Successfull manned spacestation for decades
>Still working on getting to Mars within 2 decades

>Welfare gets 30% of national funding
>Poverty increasing

JUST

This.
Certain metals are hard to find here, and rare to use. Despite their importance to research and development, yet the solar system has it all. Enough to make a YUGE profit and business out of. The fact that only a few companies have actually taken interest in this is sad. But I guess we're going to have to wait until SpaceX and other space launch businesses have mastered it.
Takes time OP. Progress takes time.

A ton of shit we enjoy and the western world takes for granted today was invented to fill a necessity in the space program, or is only possible because of those invention.
Microwave ovens, freeze-dried fruit in your oatmeal, super comfy mattresses, satellite TV, the fucking Internet, solar panels, GPS, countless advances in metallurgy, electronics, and heat transfer systems were made for the sake of the space program.
A space race has nearly the same technological advancement boost as a war between Western nations, but with fewer dead white males.

High altitude balloons, zeppelins, underwater cables and a network of antenna on the ground has made all these things possible.
GPS works solely with triangulation and doesn't require satellites at all.

We do have a space agency. It mostly deals in satellite launches, probes, and helping NASA and ESA missions because even throughout the galaxy my nation's cuckoldry must be known.

I'm all for space exploration, just not with NASA. It's nothing more than a money sucking bureaucracy.

Get rid of it and start anew.

Yeah I think the media have a big part in not making this kinda stuff more apparent, if you're not actively interested in space-missions etc then it may as well not exist until the day before the launch and the media jump on it and then it's forggotten.

i'm kinda lokking forward to the Orion Mars mission/s 2bh that'll be pretty cool and the next big step in space exploration

tl;dr USA RUS USA RUS USA

>No, humanity must continue to proceed

It's been 50 years since we sent men to the moon, and the only notable feat besides that was to send a rover on Mars.

Space exploration is on hold until we get our hands on a technology that isn't human. You have no idea how far the other galaxies are

Is Starlite real or a hoax?

There's nothing out there. Huge waste of resources

Why do we need to go to other galaxies first? There's what over a billion stars here?

i heard for every 1 dollar we gib them we get 10 dollars worth of technology in return or some shit

not sure if true

bur i do agree op it seems like a foolish investment to simply find out if ayy's exist, plus if we do, it might have unintended consequences

pic related

In Canada?

Dem existing programs be insufficient, need mo money

The problem with NASA is that it has many projects associated with Space exploration. It's sole project isn't in rockets, it's in science research. In the late 60's and early 70's when we went to the moon, all priority when to engineering a way to get to the moon and back. Now it's just broad research with a smaller budget. I wouldn't call it a waste, NASA scaled back on getting into space since we can rent a seat, and private businesses have success now.

Is Kek in favor of space travel then?

Back to back 99s

Traveling the stars with a frog God confirmed

We need to get off this rock and start terraforming other planets and moons and shit

With no magnetosphere, what is the point of trying to terraform Mars?

t. space jew

>dying
nope
>waste of ressources
yep
we are smart enough to know there's not much we can do out there right now with current tech. 'Till new breakthroughs are achieved ressources invested in space will never give returns.

Meant to say star systems, you're right.
Those are still extremely far though

But to what end? To what point?

For resources? Well then sure, but you dont need to terraform a planet or moon for that. Just enough to support a self contained base that can do the work.

For more "real estate"? Why? Just why? So you can increase the human population for the sake of just increasing the human population? At a horrendous expense? There is absolutely no point.

Even if it was a dead planet, with no life, there would be no point. But even worse would be terraforming another living planet and fucking up it life and ecosystems.

If there is one thing black science man was right about, it is that space exploration creates hero's and makes dreams a reality.

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Have a webm also.

It was real but is sadly lost forever

lol space exploration should be the last thing cut by the government.

if youre worried about wasteful spending how about you start with foodstamps ebt medicare medicaid section 8 housing protecting every others countries military paying for all of the UN etc etc

The colony ship looks like a gigantic dildo desu

The jews have infiltrated NASA and turned them into weather balloon merchants. Hopefully Trump will properly delegate those roles and push NASA towards deep space projects.

Why aren't aircraft powered by steam engines? Not enough power to weight ratio.

Why aren't we zooming around the solar system right now? Not enough specific impulse.

Chemical propellants have gone about as far as they're going to go. To improve rocket engine performance, there are basically two options. Fluorine and nuclear.

Using fluorine instead of oxygen as an oxidizer gives you a big boost in performance, but it is seriously toxic and dangerous to use. (Check out the YouTube videos on fluorine and chlorine trifluoride).

Nuclear simply isn't going to happen. End of story.

Basically, we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

Mars is going to blush pretty hard when it suddenly penetrates her atmosphere.

Exploration seems good enough a reason. Exploration made Europe

That's one thing that costs more the more money you throw at it.

It makes sense not only aerodynamically for liftoff (assuming it is assembled on the ground), but to reduce the chance of catastrophic collision with rocks.

If we're going to live on Mars we have create technology that allows humans to live on extremely limited resources, grow food and recycle nearly everything. All the advances on technologies like that will help humans massively on Earth as well.

>self landing rocket that works
Still makes me grin a year later.

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If the news media would stop wasting time on russian hackers and being overall cucks to clicks, they should be telling us about the war in syria and the latest NASA developments.

You're right, it's a prison island designed to hold some of the worst shitposters on the planet.

Even better since NASA said it was impossible with current technology.

No gps most certainly does require satellites.

How do you make breakthroughs without investing in R&D?

Is that one of Space X's rockets?

That is badass.

yes

That's pretty fucking amazing if true, if that could be scaled up to carry larger (human) payloads we could be landing on Mars in a few years.

space

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I cried when they landed the one on land for the first time and was very happen when they finally got one to land at sea. Mars is definitely a possibility when you take into account the potential reusability of rockets! Which is why Space X is so focused on Mars at the moment.

If it exists and was discovered before it will eventually be discovered again.

We do need to have at least some humans not on earth and on another celestial body. We have all our eggs in one basket and if something happens to that basket then all is lost. However I wouldn't be suprised if we had something like a moon base already but only top men know about it.

That video is speed up right?

>I cried
What are you a woman? We don't need pussies out traveling the stars telling other systems about their Goldilocks zone privilege.

Probably Jews nose

Of course.

yeah especially socialism

It's not a waste of resources but it does mean never going back to earth and probably dying in space.

>and it will probably be ruined by people trying to make everything diverse

>That's pretty fucking amazing if true
What does this even mean? What do you think SpaceX does, memes?

Nasa also does a lot of important shit like monitoring space, equally important I think.

Asteroids (I think a 150ft'er went whipping by us between us and the moon recently)

Coronal mass ejection. That shit could fuck up our world pretty good.

Gamma ray bursts (I have no idea how they know this but one is supposed to hit us in December). One came blasting through in 2004 and tore part of the fucking atmosphere off.

Shit like that and such.

Don't we have enough problems here for the foreseeable future?

Next falcon9 is launching on saturday at 18:26 GMT .They plan to stream the launch and land in the ocean.

They launch those at Canaveral? I'll be in florida so maybe I can go see it.

In the ocean.

>I think last years budget for NASA was 1.7 billion.
Off by an order of magnitude, chum.
$19.3 billion in 2016.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA

>I got used to seeing shuttle launches regularly on the NASA channel.
The space shuttle had nothing to do with exploration, since it was unsuited to going anywhere or helping significantly with any missions to anywhere that NASA hadn't already gone. Ridiculous waste of money that should have been cancelled before Challenger (before its launch, really), and certainly shouldn't have been continued after.

The purpose was to make orbital launch cheaper through reusability, but it was several times more expensive than an expendable vehicle. Even the part that was always supposed to be expendable (the external tank) alone was as costly as a complete expendable rocket for the same payload, but that barely scratches the surface of what made it expensive.

Not this one.Now they fly from CA because this gies to polar orbit and in september they blew up a rocket with zuckerverg sattelite so they are rebuilding slc40 but on 26th jan they will try to launch from pad 39A the same one that SaturnV and shuttle used.This year they plan to launch every 2 weeks

Also the cancer that the shuttle was still lives on with the new SLS rocket with idiots at nasa wasting money on things like 300 million$ per engine when competitors could make simmilar ones for less than 10 mil.

We're going to waste all our wealth taking care of Shaniquia and her 17 niglets, then die at the bottom of this gravity well, unable to fund a simple rocket. But at least we won't be racist :^)

>Trusting obscure mongolian engines

Rd 170 detivatives are great but they are inferior
compared with raptor and BE4 or BE3.Especially against Raptor there are no competitors anywhere in the world.

You missed the point leaf. Space shit was inspiring back then. Now nobody gives a fuck.

Investing in r&d doesn't necessarily have to go through NASA and space exploration.
Imagine if they would've invested in the EMdrive instead of big leaguing the inventor and building shitty rockets that can take us to nowhere to go look at some antfarms on a useless (((international))) space station floating in orbit.

Who cares? we need to worry more about the poor refugees and islamic acceptance. Spending money for science is just evil!

I agree.

There are better places to live in an Arizona desert than anywhere on Mars.

Its so stupid

THESE DIGITS CONFIRM.
HE SPEAKS TO US.
KEK WANTS US TO CONQUER THE STARS

>Space shit was inspiring back then. Now nobody gives a fuck.
You mean you were a dumb kid back then, and fell for the bullshit.

Since the end of Apollo, the American manned space program was based on lies and spin. They weren't doing anything that would lead on to greater things, but they were talking like it was. In fact, that's still what NASA's doing.

What SpaceX is doing, on the other hand, is genuinely ambitious and exciting. I don't know where you've been getting your information, but it seems to me that people are much more excited about SpaceX's progress and plans than they have been for NASA's in decades.

Ayys want the BHC (Big Human Cock)

obsolete technology

future rockets will be powered by lasers from ground

then fueled in space with water mined from the moon

Space stuff is Fascinating

you have no idea the range of consequences. it would be the single most important moment in human history to date.

They are still using fossil fuels!!! Hahahaha!

Stupid Bagguette Fag GPRS needs satelite.
Hope you get blown as next

It is a waste, but only due to limitation of current technology.

Solution is to develop a new method of propulsion and go crazy sending things into space to see if it works

>building a lifeboat to abandon this gay nigger earth
>waste of money

You are disallowed to pick both, although a single statement is to be selected.

There is literally nothing more important than developing space technology and ensuring our long-term survival in space.

But that's a nuclear plant...

Space travel is an extreme version of a common belief that it is easier to run away from our problems than to solve them. Those who gleefully look forward to space colonization are either insane or brainwashed by fancy imagery to the point of religious devotion.

The optimistic belief in space travel, colonising Mars, etc.....has dangerous parallels with conventional religion. While it is human to seek comfort in religion, it is a misleading and dangerous way of thinking we should be aware of, and wary of.

As president Eisenhower once said, every ship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

The energy density required to even levitate a craft that is ultralight by rocket standards with a mirror tens of meters in radius would ionize the air
Using reflected light is best for long-range propulsion, esp into deep space

We need to work on our problems on earth first
Can you imagine a future with space niggers?

Don't remind the leaf he will never be a true American, you might hurt his feelings

It's a really really really long term investment.

Every moment that 100% of humanity is on earth we are exposed to species obliteration by an existential catastrophe. Of course we have problems, but the survival of the species must come first.