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>black nationalist

so when you going to Africa?

>former
why?

When are you going back to Africa?

What's your favorite flavor of ice-cream?

W

can I have your stuff?

jk, your stuff is my ancestor's birthright, CAUCASUS VULT

When are you going back to Africa?

I realized the whole thing is both doomed to failure, and a tool of the conspiracy of the new world order. Also a lot of infighting.

Black people naming their children Malcom is the worst form of cultural appropriation.

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What do you get from being on Sup Forums?

What's your favorite firearm and why?

What's your opinion of us white devils these days?

KFC or popeye's?

Are you a nigger?

What drove you away from black nationalism?

>tool of the conspiracy of the new world order

nigsplain

Huey Freeman is that you?

The worst form of cultural appropriation is black nationalists I used to associate with whom adopted the names of arab slave traders.
memes
A LaRue M4, because one of those is worth about 25 people with anything else
The goals of black nationalists are only ever subtly conveyed because they won't state what they want until it becomes totally obvious. Thus, why the focus on civil rights nowadays when voting restrictions toward black americans are less existant than ever.

I found out what their goals and their methods were and got out.

Former white supremacist here. It is absolutely division.

The thing (((They))) want least of all is for us to throw away the atrocities of the past and join hands as one people, and put their asses to the wall.

You are not my enemy unless you want to be. We both know who our real enemy is.

That's true but preserving our race and nations is also very important.

i don't know why people get surprised by this. Just listen to Varg and you'll realize there's no point in being nationalist.

>goals and methods

go on...

>former
What's the story there? Finally figured out you were the only guy in the ghetto who actually cared?

Long story short, essentially communism. And communism is bad.

Communism rests on creating a dictatorship of the proletariat. Most people think that proletariat means workers but it is not, it is a creation of the larger communist conspiracy. The proletariat, in the communist plot, is when all of one class (or with blacks, race) is tied together as a bloc, led by representation claiming to represent their class.

Thus, why the congressional black caucus? It claims to be the representation of all black people in this country, it is very far to the left, and those blacks that do not agree with the far left are seen as traitors to their race.

What you see in black america for the last fifty years is the obvious plot to push blacks into a proletariat. Where a small number of elitist, leftists claim to represent all black people and dictates first the political activity, then the privates lives, of the blacks.

redpilled desu


so what are u now?

Who's Varg? keep on hearing about him

Also why the hell wouldn't you be nationalist

>tfw 2 inteligent 2 call op a nigert

What's your current EBT balance?

>just realized
>malcolm died becos of infighting

how long were you prodindu op

Why former? Don't you want your people to succeed and achieve their own national identity?

this does seem like what's going on, but is this explicitly discussed as a goal among black nationalists? just at the upper levels I presume?

Double(you)

>Also why the hell wouldn't you be nationalist
No end game. You cant fully protect your nation without world domination thus defeating the premise.

I'd rather have a mixed child with no culture that lives free of puppet strings desu.

Quality thread user.

Is BBC a meme or real?

It's funny. This isnt some major top secret, inner circle shit Im spilling. It's goals that anyone could had found out had he read the correct books and observed enough newspapers over enough time after having read those correct books.

Essentially, black nationalists want to create a black proletariat, some group the claims to represent all black people while punishing and stigmatizing blacks that are conservative, except it is an organization with political and legal muscle.
Constitutionalist. Very conservative toward national government, very liberal in state government.
Why should you be a nationalist? First of all, nationalism had a very different definition up until about 1945. Not every nationalist was a marxist, but every marxist was a nationalist, thus nationalism was seen as a bad word. In 1945, nationalist became a smear word leftists used in rhetoric to denounce anyone concerned with the UN stealing our sovereignty.

It was essentially leftists using a word that already had a bad smell and throwing it at anti-globalists.
Look up aesopian language. Black Lives Matter states they want to create a proletarian when they say they want self-determination. Self-determination was a communist logo developed by the cominterm in the twenties.

What's with the bow ties?

>Constitutionalist

based desu

>tfw white but like black nationalists since they want to self-segregate in their own communities or even go back to africa

Why is 'we waz kangz' revisionism so popular?

Fuck off talcum x

how much of the black nationalist cause was subverted / funded / directed / whipped up by the USSR?

Yes they do want to be segregated into their own little ghettos.

They want to be self segregated so the police cant get in there and stop them from sending firearms to goonsquads and drugs to white girls.

Within their self segregated ghetto they'll send out paramilitaries to police their community. "Community policing." Ever heard the term? This community force would police the private lives inside the ghetto, kill profit seekers and kidnap children to put them into guerrilla armies.

And you think thats good.

It gets to the point I can't tell whose jewing who anymore. Anywheres from a tiny portion to almost all of it.

BLM manifesto corroborates:
policy . m4bl . org / platform

yes I noticed this jewish bolshevism

how do we stop it?

>I'd rather have a mixed child
Kill yourself.

Why don't you speak out against these groups publicly? and why didn't you aquire proof to show the public their actual intensions? You could become the MLK if you exposed these monsters.

I'm glad you're a former black nationalist.

It would be pretty stupid to be a black nationalist when you're living in a country designated for whites.

How do SJWs factor into your movement?

A whole lot of black nationalism got its support from American businessmen and the US government as well.

The whole thing is controlled by wealthy, mostly white men.

Im sure you already are familiar with the fact these black nationalists desire a portion of 6 or 7 states int he south to be a nation handed over to them. Black nationalism has never given that up but isnt so open about it right now.

What the marxist conspiracy is essentially meant to make the south an African American soviet.

And when I was a little bit younger, I thought the African American right to self determination meant blacks would get their own country. But just the opposite, we would be getting A SOVIET

A soviet is not a country. The individual soviets republics of the USSR were not nations. It was borders drawn around large ethnic groups. Inside of those borders would be a government comprised of members of the majority ethnicities in that republic, be it Kazakhs, Tajiks, Ukrainians etc. That government governs in accordance to Soviet policy. So the government s of the Tajiks and Uzbeks is just communist enforcers of leaders in Moscow.

To the communists, "nations" are areas of one ethnicity governed by that ethnicity. There is no countries in a communist world because that world has a one world government. Regionalizing parts of the globe so peoples can be dictated by rulers of their own skin color is the easiest way to govern the whole world.

A black soviet would be answerable to a communist government in Washington. Yes, this black soviet would be its own nation, but not a sovereign one. The government outside the southern USA would be turned over in a marxist revolution before the south faced this revolution. Then after communists have influenced government policy enough and infiltrated it enough, with the legal arm of the federal government allied with the civil rights movement, reshape the southern government into a black soviet.

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So in essence, black nationalism is not really a revolution against the establishment because it's success ultimately lies on the establishment providing legal ways and assistance.
MLK is an infamous man to me. He was a black nationalist if I ever seen one.

Im pro black but I don't agree with anything retaning to the civil rights or that agenda I don't think the races should mix or coexist

I like Marcus garvy type of black nationalism before the jews and coons let fags, white ,women, white college kids and spics in

I don't want equality I want self preservation to be self reliant and supportive

I guess you could say I'm separatist

I think MLK was a coward who only wanted integration so he could cheat on his wife with white women

Get the blacks to not vote democrat. Mainly by telling them what the fuck the democrats did in the sixties to get their votes.

A sufficient private school that can imbue a generation of blacks with American valuse. The public school system teaches them 300 years of their history in America was all blight, their race has little accomplishments in white man's america and he is still not equal. Public schools and the last thirty years of academic presses in America totally neglect mention that blacks in America in 1928 were wealthier on Average than a british person. Not every part of black American life in America was oppression before the civil rights movement. When black kids get educated in the public school they have little chance of ever having the mental capacity to undo what these schools did and see BLM for what it is.

MLK was not a black nationalist he was a jew puppet who loved his enemies more then his own

He was obessed with the notion of a white Jesus fetish

His turn the other cheek love your neighbor bull shit made us weak only getting sympathy by being a helpless victim its pathetic

W

Why is there such a thug/gang nigger problem in the black community, in your view?

>black nationalist

Which nation?

The civil rights movement was the worst thing that ever happened to us

It destroyed any unity among us or structure among our community

Before the civil rights movement blacks only had each other no system to care for them

Media has made it popular cool trendy and socially acceptable

They are just victims of their own circumstance and all that bullshit

Rap is the root of all did degenerate decay

Question to you, OP.

Would Malcolm X have liked the direction to where the blacks these days are going, with the BLM and everything?

Honestly why don't you go back to Africa and make it better?

what the fuck does W stand for?

>Rap is the root of all did degenerate decay
Why do so many blacks fall for it then and let it influence them? This shit is completely obvious to whites.

explain your sentiments on MLK, and also expand that to Malcolm X

What did you think of the Jeff Sessions confirmation? Especially the ones who went against him? That senator who went against him couldn't even act out his fake rage correctly, it was so forced. Trying to become Obama 2.0 by basically saying he will act out anything for political advancement. If Sessions was such a racist, why did he surround himself with blacks in his staff, and appoint so many blacks in his state of Alabama? Fuck that confirmation hearing triggered me so much.

>what democrats did in the 60s?

Create a welfare state that reinforces black poverty and segregation?

If subversion came to white America, it would be packaged in a way that is culturally familiar and appealing to white people, before gradually leading them astray.

The over-the-top degeneracy you see today didn't happen overnight.

> soviet conspiracy

i thought so. black nationalism was a front (one of many) for soviet corrosive influence to undermine social cohesion in the USA.

A lot of this is meant to emphasis as much of a black culture as possible.

The black culture is focused at creating black consciousness The consciousness is aimed at giving millions of blacks a national identity.

Its apparently obvious when you see communist slogans in rap lyrics and gang manifestos aligning with marxist views.

The black nationally identity is made a step at a time. The emphasis on black education, black art awards and black history honor is meant to make the black feel his history of interacting with the American form of government means he should be loyal to a new government.

Notice how every time a big rito burns a city, several gangs "unite" and call a truce to "heal" the city. That is propaganda meant to set a pretense to condition the black mind to accept the idea of one organization claiming to represent all blacks. The black is conditioned to think that if gangs united that would somehow be good because they'd stop fighting each other.

Black nationalists will make their goals obvious when their subtle attempts to affect the consciousness of enough blacks with this thug culture has succeeded. By then, marxist conspirators should have enough control of the federal government to do as I explained in

He'd be for BLM. He'd be for every liberal policy today.
MLK was a "man of peace" the same way Islam is a religion of peace. He always talked of how he was so nonviolent.

You know how there was a lot of race riots in the 60s? Same thing with BLM today, where a bunch of professional agitators from outside a city are shipped in on buses to throw rocks at police. Those buses of course were paid by large tax exempt foundations.

MLK had some riot agitator work with him, even on his payroll in some instances. MLK says in a speech "we're going to get a change in law through nonviolent protest. And if that fails, though I abhor violence, some of my followers will get impatient with nonviolence and switch to violence."

In city after city King went to, a riot would break out because King's demands werent met in order to prevent the riots. And all of these black nationalists hinted there was worse than riots to come if white America still didnt change the law in their favor.

So King became the man that could save America from the violence of Malcom X.

King became the man that could prevent another Watts riot.

youtube.com/watch?v=09nnfO-f0pg
The head of the folksong department of King's SCLC organization wrote that song. listen to that and tell me that aint nonvioelnt. That is a song about riots because various social programs werent granted. the underlying message is change the law, prevent these riots.

Keep in mind for most of the last five year's of King's life, he spent a lot of time agitating for shit that had nothing to do with civil rights and everything to do with socialism

Do you think affirmative action undermines the efforts of genuinely smart blacks like yourself?

Why do blacks hate whites so much but follow them everywhere they go?

what you are describing with King and X are a variation of the "good cop, bad cop" routine. Very interesting take on the whole situation.

Never seen Sup Forums so captivated by a black dude. And rightfully so, desu. Can you answer user's question about Sessions? And that poor man's Obama, what is the angle there other than the obvious?

Did you realize it was doomed to fail when it became understood that niggers can't even discover the wheel?

How did you rationalize the zero accomplishments of Sub-Saharan niggers before whites arrived?

Maybe you're new. Pretty much any time there's a black poster who's smart enough to ignore provocation the threads go well.

Growing up, I never understood why you niggers identified with MLK so much, because he came off like a fucking cuck. Now Malcolm X, that guy seemed interesting because he actually called out the Jews and even the Shitlibs for being a bunch of hypocrites trying to use niggers for their own goal.

Malcolm X could've created a spirtual awakening amongst you blacks. A sad shame that he was killed by his own because Malcolm X was getting in the way of their gravy train.

I see hardly any provocation is my point.

Not op but black

I lean more towards Malcolm before he was fooled by Islam

But I like the original roots of pan africansm that started in the 1920s with Marcus garvy

What are whites opinion on garvyism

> what you are describing with King and X are a variation of the "good cop, bad cop" routine

Actually, that's pretty well-known.

Though a commie acquaintance of mine suggests the plot is a little thicker than that: their good-cop-bad-cop may have made an impression on public opinion, but MLK had ties to militants across the south that ensured his peaceful marches had well-armed defenses. What else these groups did, I'm not sure.

It's meant to create consciousness of a black national identity.

Three functions of government are legislative, executive and judicial.

Say you have a civil rights law that manages how blacks elect a representative.
And a civil rights law guaranteeing various executive agencies are staffed by blacks.
And a law regulating how courts can interact with blacks.
And a law telling businesses who to hire and who to fire when it comes to race.
What you have in effect is all three branches governed separately. A parallel government.

Take affirmative action to the next step where there's affirmative action inside the city and state governments of the South. (This is all theory as to HOW it can happen) The federal government will appoint Representatives of the black people. This will be a black proletariat that will govern the black South as a Soviet nation.

No one law will set up this independent black nation. Every civil rights law is just another step in that direction, affirmative action included.

>He'd be for BLM. He'd be for every liberal policy today.
This is interesting, I expected something along the lines of "no he'd be anti BLM since he is a hardline black nationalist not a liberal", but you say he'd support BLM. Increased my cognitive dissonance a little, but I guess you are right, since you seem to know more about this topic, so yeah.

Have you read "Foundations - Their Power and Influence" by Rene A. Wormser??

How did a you, a white person get to be a black nationalist? Were you like another Rachel Dolezal? Or ARE YOU Rachel Dolezal?

To be fair, neither whites (aside from a lone isolated celt group) nor blacks invented the wheel independently, the former having received it by cultural diffusion from Mesopotamia, likely via Anatolian or Steppe peoples.

He actively prosecuted the KKK and won. He praised Rosa Parks heavily. Libs make me sick sometimes

saving these

never thought based nogs browsed pol

No he wouldn't the issues of today and the 60s are very different of anything he would be disappointed at the end result and failure that was the civil rights movement

He would feel like blacks simply compromised rather then uplift themselves yes jim crow us gone but look how splintered our community is Becouse of it.

He was a marxist til the day he died. The fact is he did turn against the inner circle running Nation of Islam, I really wish he had lived long enough to expose it.
Parts of it.
Well the good cop bad cop routine was moreso used in the north. In the south, the point was to block traffic BLM style, which King did, I shit you not, hundred of times, and then get a picture of an angry white guy punching a black protestor then headline it.
I like Jeff Sessions. I want a constitutionalist as attorney general.

The civil rights law of 1964 gives the attorney general to fine any private business or state government for racist action, without a trial by jury. The bill of rights says that in federal charges of civil law where more than twenty dollars (one ounce of gold in 1790) is in dispute, the defendant's right to trial by jury shall not be refused.

The civil rights law rests on trumping the Bill of Rights.

A constitutionalist running the justice department is music to my ears and nails on a chalkboard to civil rights memeists.

Ever burnt your big black lips on a crack pipe?
How many felonies do you have?
What's your favorite father-son moment?
>just kidding on that last one. You'll never be my equal nigger.

Well that's Becouse at this point MLK basically won the sentiments of the black community across the nation he had no choice but step aside or risk alienating himself from his own

Really? Damn. So who are legitimate Black leaders in your opinion? Allen West of the Republican party seems pretty good but he's a Zionist. That's actually the problem I've seen with every Black public figure I've seen who seems pretty smart. They're all Zionists and will often times avoid the Jewish Question all together.

Malcolm X was the second coming of Garvey, just a weeaboo for a different culture.

Both were quite right-wing (Garvey claiming to have pioneered Fascism), but Malcolm X's inflammatory NOI-era rhetoric was more useful to Cultural Marxists after he died, while his actual comprehensive worldview was largely discarded save for the scattered handful of culturally nationalist black folk that still revere it.

Good lord, I came for some nignoggin but got the literal opposite
Jesus fucking Christ
I've lived in Brooklyn and met a lot of black people, but I think the word nigger is inapplicable to this guy

No person who can drop this level of redpilled knowledge can be a nigger

OP, if my white daughter brought you home I... I don't think I'd be mad. I need to go meditate on this.

1964 Malcolm was best Malcolm.

This nig's IQ is way higher than yours, desu.

What do you think of rap culture in France?

youtube.com/watch?v=VS7ZBff9MGk

It speaks about how the big tax exempt foundations systematically finance progressive to even marxist causes in the United States.

Have you ever heard of Anatoli Golitsyn or Jan Sejna? Two Soviet defectors who before the fall oder UDSSR spoke about a strategic long range plan too fool the West into believing Communism is dead. When you read the books in detail the picture becomes much clearer as to why all of this "cultural marxist" crap is happening and also what role Black Lives Matter etc play in this game.

BLM's ideology is very blatantly New Left, which Martin flirted with, especially in his later years.

Tried to look like Malcolm in my pic