What is the argument against a simulated reality, Sup Forums?

What is the argument against a simulated reality, Sup Forums?

Elon Musk says were probably nothing more then a simulation, thoughts?

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There are no arguments

The current world affairs even confirm we live in some sort of sick joke

A man need a name fast.

You experience reality as a simulation of the real world inside your head. It's pretty easy to mistake that simulation in your head for actual reality separate from yourself if you don't into neuropsychology.

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If he says that he lives in a simulated reality, then him saying that, is also simulated, so he has no credibility in what he says, so you should stop listening to him

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How do I get into the Tug Zone?

The argument is that it has no practical effect on reality so who cares?

Answer my question and I'll give sauce.

He's right, it's all just a karmic vision

Hinduism and Buddhism call it maya but now we call it a simulation or the matrix, it's knowledge that's been around forever

I agree. The material universe is in constant motion and motion exists to give form to idea. Therefore all idea comes from the creator and reality is simply the unfolding of that knowledge sequentially.

>this webmv
Bestiality is forbidden in my country.
Also beliving you are in a simulation = degenerate

I was getting ready to see those tittays thinking it was a Pajeet or something until it turned out to be a nigger.

>when the login for clubtug and jerkygirls you got from /gif/ expired

>This universe is a simulation of whites being traitors and trying to kill themselves off
It makes more sense. Lefties are just crazy NPCs for players to fight against.

>Elon Musk says were probably nothing more then a simulation, thoughts?


learn to think

>and motion exists to give form to idea. Therefore all idea comes from the creator and reality is simply the unfolding of that knowledge sequentially.

fanciful
and factually non-falsifiable
be serious

>Haha dumb theists the idea of a god is stupid
>yo dude we are probs living in a simulation.

Carmella

not my fault you don't understand how a fulcrum works, cuck. Go back to your materialist kike/jesuit brainwashing science now.

>krass kringle

You skipped a step or two

How do we know all ideas come from the creator?

Also are all ideas knowledge that describe the universe as it is? Or are there ideas that do not?
If the answer is such that there are ideas that do not, then how are ideas the unfolding of the creator's knowledge?

I don't know if it's a simulation or a spiritual phenomenon or what but we're clearly missing something

Because if we're all playing the game, knowing it's a game when everyone else doesn't means you're going to not give a shit and have a low score.


People only came to this conclusion because 'Muhh vidya' anyway. It's fucking stupid.

If your just a simulation go kill elon musk, its what your programming is.

calling everything a simulation removes any meaning to ones actions. If everything is fake than what we do has no meaning and implys people should just do as they please. Life is more important than that and part of life is learning to live right and not just do as you please. Inherently this idea is meant to spread of moral ambiguity and further cloud the already failing morals of humanity. The more grey people see in their actions the less those actions seem to matter and the more people accept the unacceptable.

Knowledge is static and unlimited. Expression of knowledge is moving, changing, imperfect. God is the source of all things.

The argument for creationism (which is exactly what it is) is basically bulletproof and there's no good counter argument. Not that it really makes a difference either way.

>Knowledge is static and unlimited.
what is this sentence trying to convey
these are contradictory ideas

>posting bestiality on Sup Forums

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Elon Musk is an idiot

What difference would it make?

What has been happening since the 50s is an organized assault on the morals that made this nation great. Once those morals have eroded to the correct level people will accept what ever is done to them and freedom will die. When every thing is grey and all actions are considered normal then even the slavery that will be inflicted on you will be normal. Evil is banal it spreads and argues its point until it is accepted as normal.

lol

First off reality being a simulation is so narrow minded it's so cold minded and illogical no wonder Musk panders it. If anything our physical reality is a manifestation of our consciousness, our soul.

But hes right about one thing in that theres no good or evil. Theres only positive and negative energy. You choose how you want to live your life, you choose to make the world a better place or to oppose it. This is humanities gift and curse for seeking knowledge beyond our comprehension.

1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous1 will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: xneither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,2 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Who is this semen demon

If reality is a simulation/dream then why can't I achieve CHIM or poof out of existence the moment I realize I don't exist?

Checkmate athiests

2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

2 Tim 3:1-4

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

Doesn't make the simulated reality as we experience it not real. This is a shit pop-science meme.

Which translation is this?

>Elon Musk says were probably nothing more then a simulation, thoughts?

His argument is fucking retarded. It just assumes that all possible realities have civilizations in them that unite to build a computer roughly the size of the known universe to accomplish the goal of.... Sims?

What's the difference? What would concretely knowing you live in a simulated reality change? If simulated reality is all you and your ancestors have ever known, how is it distinguishable from reality?

What does the postulate of simulated reality accomplish aside from adding another turtle to the stack?

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if reality was a simulation I'd fall over every time I try to climb a ladder or whatever glitchy bullshit since I've never interacted with a computer system that wasn't riddled with problems

>dude I love freedom but if you say gays can get married that'll destroy society

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FPBP

Checked!

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It has already destroyed society. Look at the foolishness that people are accepting. The slippery slope is a real thing and you are witnessing it in real time. It was never about gay marriage it was about constructing a narrative that everything traditional and good was wrong then using that to chip away at what made us strong.

This guy gets it. Top show user.

Have you ever into any linguistic theory? I'm balls deep in Lacan, Saussure, and Jakobson and essentially language works in precisely the same way. Operating between metaphor and metonym, and it looks like metonym is illusory so

FUG

End the simulation

god i hate porn where they fondle and kiss, because the dudes are always ugly as fuck

Those who play with the devil's toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword.

Elon Musk isn't an intellectual -- only retards quote him like this.
>tfw to smart for obviously simulated pseudo-intellectuals

(((Elon musk))) is a pump monkey retard

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Say something nice about her and I'll give sauce.

I love her enthusiasm. She is always up and happy. She brings joy to everyone that is around her.

>Consumer prices +12.4

Wait is that your inflation rate?


On topic, silopsism is gay, nothing to discuss

she has great hair

Carmen Hayes

If were a simulation then where are the glitches and straight lines, where is the monotony and repitition, where are the viruses and bugs.

Simulation theories are accepted/pushed by people not even connected to the real world. A form of schitz.

What's that ladies name now

Sauce = Carmen 'The Glazed' Hayes

You should all read Calculating Space, a MIT translation of the first book on digital physics by Konrad Zuse, the man who created the world's first programmable computer.

>Zuse proposed that the universe is being computed by some sort of cellular automaton or other discrete computing machinery

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculating_Space

Basically this isn't a new idea by Musk

This is the important part, no one has been able to argue against his work since he brought it up

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>cowtits
why in the fuck

The problem with the idea of reality being simulated is the proposition hides behind a certain ambiguity.
>define simulation
>define reality

>nothing more than
>implying we can or should be more than
>implying there is actually "more than"

The best defense of his proposition I can come up with is simply the idea that there is a higher being(s) which is "simulating" there own creation, or perhaps the possibility of creation. This could be an elaborate way of trolling his following of fedoras into un-ironically believing in higher beings (essentially god(s)) and also admitting man has an ideal destiny beyond being an "animal".
I think he's more elaborate than he is intelligent.
>muh absolute rationalism
Fugg off
Chaos is the natural order.

Being in a simulation would mean being controlled by someone/something , you are still thinking for yourself (or at least you think so) , but your actions or environment might be influenced.
Still , even if you think about it or know you are in a simulation , there's nothing you can do , maybe killing yourself or dying might be an escape door , but then again maybe you don't really die , just forget and the simulation starts all over again (maybe with different presets this time(since the point of a simulation is experimenting)).

Either way , simulating an environment like this world would require a huge power by this world's standart , so there's nothing you can do about it.

>>implying there is actually "more than"
to suppose we are a simulation then there must necessarily be "more than" what we comprehend now.
it's also partially incompatible with Hegelianism because it's an unknown>unknown unknown.
Our consciousness would need to go beyond itself, twice, to even begin to understand.
Think about infinity, the concept and the number.
Like Zeno's paradox with the time switch lamp.
You can almost do it, but your mind goes blank.
Don't stop trying though, its literally mental weightlifting.

But for Musk, the only way he could reasonably posit us being in a simulation, is to have a knowledge beyond the simulation, otherwise he wouldn't know.
Two ways to go, down or up.
Either he knows because are unconsciously beyond it, in which case we can imitate it through creating a simulation.
Or Musk has a conscious knowledge beyond our simulated reality, this would be only through what can be defined as divine revelation.

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Elon's idea is a technocrats idiotic interpretation of intelligent design. It's a total anthropomorphization of beings we can't comprehend

There is no major distinction between the idea that we live in a simulation and the idea that we live in a universe with an omniscient deity.

He means his fake CGI rockets.

Nobody has been into space.

CAN YOU PLEASE

SEAL THE ENTRANCE TO MY CHAMBER!

Thank you kind American.

In Law of One channels RA says that Yahweh is actually not evil but kinda fucked everything up. What do you guys think?

Here is proof for simulated reality:
youtube.com/watch?v=t_RwcGzGurc
>hardmode: prove me wrong

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