Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=8LW6y-kgKtA
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twitter.com/AnonBabble

Suck my dick, you commie faggot.

Hello comrade.

What do you think of market socialism?

SAGE GOES IN ALL FIELDS
BETTER DEAD THAN RED

nice arguments.

Shut the fuck up, Bernie.

>bernie
>socialist

You won't convince anybody here unless you find a way to make communism pro-white somehow.

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What about national Bolshevism?

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what do you mean by that comrade?

Hello!

Why what?

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Only thing worse then espania is fucking Portugal. You commie turds deserve a meteor.

>state capitalism
>socialism

Communism:
>has never existed, despite multiple attempts
>every attempt leads to mass starvation of their own people
>is easily subverted through other ideologies
>solves no problems that other ideologies don't already solve better
>no clear solution to fix constant failures
>claims human nature either doesn't exist, or is easy to change
>fixes none of the cultural issues that would derive from total automation of industry

Fascism:
>no two fascist nations have ever gone to war with each other
>fascism has never had a mass starvation problem
>fascism has actually existed, and it fixes all the problems communism seeks to solve
>early fascist failures are easily solved by reducing aggression and warmongering, as shown by other successful fascist nations
>utilizes human nature by designing a system meant to take advantage of it
>fixes all of the cultural issues that would derive from total automation of industry


youtube.com/watch?v=8LW6y-kgKtA

Stop posting weeb. I argued with you for around 5 threads. I'm not responding anymore.

Kill yourself.

> Spain
How to be a successful 1st world country?

>weeb
Go back to wherever you came from. Anime has always been a part of Sup Forums.

>tfw when commies can't figure out why their ideology keeps failing

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hey /leftypol/ and bleppit dont you have catgirls to ban?

/r/socialism is a fucking joke and is a disgrace.

It's because they know the their regressive ideology could never produce catgirl waifus

yes hello why do you hate catgirls

are you a faggot son

SAGE AND REPORT
lefty poll is reddit shilling just ignore

>tfw I see a commie

Only reddit does that.

not op
Don't like it. Would be 10x better than the current system. But probably our best bet as to not have issues.

>Kulaksdeservedit
Nice name.

Checked.

Communism is a cancer to the human race

Why do you support a system of government that, in a country where everyone who thinks like you do was thrown into the ocean, the country became much better? (Chile)

Have you ever asked yourself why Venezuela has no toilet paper? I know the answer. It isn't that complicated. It's a side effect of socialism.

>implying /leftypol/ and plebbit arent the same

Humanity best chance to survive in prosperity and hapiness

National Bolshevism is the only acceptable form of Communism. Everything else is for fags.

>Nationalism

Stupid thread
Again
Getting tried of these now
Eventually he'll give up

Its never going to happen.

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Hi comrade nice to see you again

have some music:

youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI

every communist post on Sup Forums is one more DIY space that gets shut down

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>when you confuse 2 completely different areas of soviet history

>when your favorite DIY shithole is about to get closed down

Very nuanced argument.
Have you ever asked yourself why there's serious poverty and people dying because of lack of health care? The shit show in the middle east? Probably not you dirty fash it's capitalism as intended. Shit doesn't work.

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(((((Communism))))) = Unlimited juden power.

> Oy vey give me your shekels goyim and i will redistribute it.

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Venezuela is not socialist. There are private corporation's.

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>communism
>state
stop

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>When you have to build a wall because bourgeois are trying to leave with all there money before they can redistribute it

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>when you misunderstand no true scotman and don't see the difference between state capitalism and socialism

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>cont
>to niggers

>when you worship a fascist who killed people and ruined Chile's economy

Truly, socialist prosperity is unmatched by any nation on Earth

How about that then you period stain of history

>telling someone who wants to destroy hierarchy to go to the most hierarchical state capitalist place ever

>when you worship a fascist who killed people and ruined Russia's economy.

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>when you actually denounce him for betraying Lenin and socialism and he also turned Russia's economy into a powerhouse instead of total shit

>state capitalist
What are you talking about user? The people own the means of production! It's not Kim's fault if he's the only one on the ballot for elections. Don't you know that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic and for the people?

>Pinochet
>Fascist
I don't think that means what you think it means.

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Its not a democracy its basically a hereditary monarchy. Kim doesn't represent the people and around 70 percent of the economy is a black market anyway.

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Fuck off Jason

Sage

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>Denounces Stalin for not being socialist
>Praises him for turning the economy into a powerhouse
So we both agree that socialism is crap then, right?

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>people are so poor that the only way to get goods is through the black market
>"see I told you it's not communist!"

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State capitalism is good for building up an economy and industrializing. Look at china.

Plus the people don't control the means of production. The government does.

Leftypol is like a skinny ugly homo who tries to flirt with the good looking straight guy at work, he gets knocked back every time but always tries again because if he didn't he would have to admit that he is a skinny ugly faggot.

lmao what a waste of life

How do you know communism works if it has never been tried?

The government that is elected by the people.

I'm not a big fan of state capitalism, I prefer fascism myself, but I see your point. Still, the fact is that the industrial powerhouses of China and the Soviet Union were built atop the corpses of tens of millions of starved citizens.

fpbp

That's one big schnozer

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Pasa pá cama papaostias

>one person on ballot
>anyone who runs is killed
>if you write in you get killed
>"""democracy"""