Really worthy read anons, take a break from the shitty memes and shitposts and give me your thoughts
the-american-interest.com
Main part:
>Kissinger’s recommendations to Trump may be summarized as follows:
> 1 Do not go all-out into a confrontation with China, whether on trade or the South China Sea. Rather, seek “comprehensive discussion” and aim to pursue that policy of dialogue and “co-evolution” recommended in World Order. Kissinger sees the Chinese President, Xi Jinping, quite regularly. When he says that Xi regards “confrontation as too dangerous” and thinks that “adversarial countries must become partners and cooperate on a win-win basis,” he speaks with authority. The questions the Chinese want to ask the new President, according to Kissinger, are these: “If we were you, we might try to suppress your rise. Do you seek to suppress us? If you do not, what will the world look like when we are both strong, as we expect to be?” Trump needs to have answers to these questions. The alternative, as Kissinger has said repeatedly, is for the United States and China to talk past each other until they stumble into 1914 in the Pacific, not to mention in cyberspace.
> 2 Given a weakened, traumatized, post-imperial Russia, the recognition Putin craves is that of “a great power, as an equal, and not as a supplicant in an American-designed system.” Kissinger’s message to Trump is well calibrated to appeal to his instincts: “It is not possible to bring Russia into the international system by conversion. It requires deal-making, but also understanding.” The central deal, Kissinger argues, would turn Ukraine into “a bridge between NATO and Russia rather than an outpost of either side,” like Finland or Austria in the Cold War, “free to conduct its own economic and political relationships, including with both Europe and
How the world will look under Trump/Kissinger
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>Russia, but not party to any military or security alliance.” Such a non-aligned Ukraine would also need to be decentralized, increasing the autonomy of the contested eastern regions, where there has been intermittent conflict since separatist movements received Russian support in the wake of the Crimean annexation. The alternative to such a deal is that we may inadvertently over-use our financial and military superiority, turning a post-Putin Russia into a vast version of Yugoslavia, “wracked by conflict stretching from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok.”
> 3 .Treat Brexit as an opportunity to steer the continental Europeans away from bureaucratic introspection and back to strategic responsibility. (“They’re talking about tactical matters while they’re in the process of giving up the essence of . . . what they’ve represented throughout history.”)
> 4 Make peace in Syria rather as we made peace in the former Yugoslavia nearly twenty years ago. Kissinger now recommends a “cantonization” of Syria similar to the federalization of Bosnia under the Washington and Dayton agreements, with an “off-ramp for Assad” lasting around a year, all under the “supervision” of the interested outside powers. Iran must be contained, much as the Soviet Union was in the Cold War, because it poses a similar threat, acting as both an imperial state and a revolutionary cause. But keep the Iran agreement because to abandon it now “would free Iran from more constraints than it would free the United States.” And finally take advantage of the new-found, albeit tacit, anti-Iranian and anti-ISIS alignment of the Arab states with Israel to achieve a new kind of Arab-sponsored peace deal that would “improve the lives of Palestinians to the greatest extent possible, perhaps including quasi-sovereignty . . . that is, de facto autonomy without a legalistic superstructure.”
Honestly I wish Kissinger and Brzezinski could be co-dictators of the planet.
large parts of the world might be really shitty, but at least they'd be orderly
some poltards will hate him and go full "muh neocon" and shit
filthy kike collaborator
Honestly sounds like good advice. I bet he has something to win with this tho
money from all the lectures and advises he'll give to others
> “cantonization” of Syria similar to the federalization of Bosnia under the Washington and Dayton agreements
Why do kikes feel like their big noses belong anywhere in Syria? It's not their fucking country. They have no say in what goes on in it. Fuck right off.
NATO pigs bombed serbs into submission in yugoslavia, that's how (((peace))) was achieved in Bosnia under the leadershit of US.
It's just more kike damage control
>listen to me, i'm a 93 year old fossil who knows what he's doing because i was entrusted to know what i'm doing for so long
Fuck off.. Fuck right off
kissinger is pretty shit imho
Trump met with him for advice though, and so did Putin who is very close to the old dude
read teh whole post btw, it goes more in-depht about how Trump can act
This is what pol voted for, too late to complain
>who is very close to the old dude
There's a very old proverb that's so old that it's stupid. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer.
>This is what pol voted for, too late to complain
I didn't vote for shit
Who is close to Trudeau then?
btw see this one, which pol probably will defend
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Trudeau is a dumbass who can't into reality
Was Harper better?
Do leafs even foreign policy?
Wait... Kissinger is actively involved in Trump's administration? Fuck. FUCK!
Syria can't be united again though. The kurds won't accept it, the Sunnis won't support it and the Chias can't do it alone.
like they have a choice if russia+usa say they will stay together. No one in the region wants syria to separate into more than one country cause that could spread and mess their countries up and change the basis of legitimacy in the mideast to ethnicity/religion and that's a can of worms no one wants to open
>President-elect Donald Trump met Thursday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to discuss "events and issues around the world."
>According to an official statement from the president-elect's team, Trump and Kissinger met in New York, and their conversation focused on Russia, China, Iran and the European Union.
>"President-elect Trump and Dr. Kissinger have known each other for years and had a great meeting. They discussed China, Russia, Iran, the EU and other events and issues around the world," the statement reads.
>“I have tremendous respect for Dr. Kissinger and appreciate him sharing his thoughts with me,” Trump said, according to the statement.
Kissinger and Trump met during the Republican presidential primaries, a visit Trump hoped would build up his foreign policy credentials.
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Wtf are you even saying exactly?
I answered your question about who was close to Trudeau. He's a child who can't think for himself so he'll trust anyone who's nice and tolerant.
Assad, if victorious, will strike a deal with the kurds in their gained territory. They're as of right now allies by necessity. Sunnis were the bulwark of the "moderate opposition"...there will be only amnesty to those who surrender. Sunni population in Syria will be
No one in Syria has the legitimity to control the whole territory. USA and Russia are not local powers, they can they things but they can't force people to live together.
How could Bachar rule over the Kurds after the civil war ? At best, they'll still be in Syria as an autonomous region.
> a visit Trump hoped would build up his foreign policy credentials.
There you fucking have it. You can meet with him all you want, but it won't translate to him actually listening to that kike.
His meeting with him was just to establish a portfolio, a move to legitimize himself- not to actually learn from the elder of zion himself
>Been seeing the 'Kissinger is the anti-Soros meme'.
>Semi-redpilled guy previously told me he is on our side.
>Find that hard to believe
>Read his book 'Diplomacy'.
>Seems like straightforward realpolitick handbook
What am I missing?
I know this guy has some dark shit tied to him, besides Covert Ops in Asia/ South America, and the time he was instrumental in the slaughter of a communist populace.
What's he really into?
>Sunni population in Syria will be
It would be nice to have one election where you don't have to choose between the lesser of two zionists.
greentext cliff notes on the book plz
Disgusting, these perfect digits wasted on reasonable discussion.
waste
>when?
fucking checked :)
Damn them some gud digits
Nice .
He met after this too and said he admires him
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>Checked
Sunnis will need to be genocided then, its official.
>without genociding them
what did he mean by this?
nice
>YES FRANCE!
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Which leaf group/politician is good on foreign policy?
Well, looks like it's time to genocide sunnis
>You can't make them Germanistan
None of this great power bullshit matters -- it's about population flows, culture, and national identity.
can you expand on that at all
Meh, it's literally just the history of Europe, the rise of the nation-state system, Metternich and Richelieu seizing power and shit, and then his analysis of things up until 1980. Lots of 'how to deal with communists' and stuff. It's also about 800 pages with a lot of textbook fluff.
Probably isn't his most 'controversial' work.
That's 10-15 million arabs. Even Germany is not that cucked
>~60% of syria is sunni
Off yourself you lying Algerian. It's more like 40% before the war.
And with over 250K war casualties and 33% of the population displaced, you can count on that figure being much much lower
also
>wasted sexts
No one supports a break up. Especially not by kurds. Same reason spain doesnt recognize Kosovo. Its bad both externally and internally
We will genocide them untill they will be ~10%
Praise kek
SUNNI GENOCIDE WHEN?
KEK HAS SPOKEN
GENOCIDE THE SUNNI ARABS
>None of this great power bullshit matters -- it's about population flows, culture, and national identity.
The whole thing started because of superpower bullshit, you can't put it out of the equation
He doesnt give a fuck about anything but american power and the balance of power, thus lots of butthurt from those who lost duento his balancing policies
AGAIN user MORE DIGITS
And all zeroes, you know what Kek wants... genocide.
im sure they will share the love with all of europe.
I did not get digits so genocide it is.
Everyone in this country is a lightweight when it comes to sound foreign policy. The Canadian IR school of thought's motto goes a little something like this:
>Why worry about foreign policy when you have such generous American investors
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Before the war, there were 74% muslims. If you don't count the Kurds, that makes 65-70% of sunni arabs
10/7
6 ZEROES
SUNNI HOLOCAUST OCTOBER 7
well let's get to it then Frenchbro
OR JULY 10 IF YOU LIVE IN A MUSLIM DOMINATED CULTURE
oh shit
Sextuple zeros confirms it will happen.
Praise Kek.
>Kissinger
>liking this fuck
Dude tell me this was a shitpost
French soldiers are ready
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>modern france
What's the deal? Why do we hate him? I want to know. Surely it's more than (((This))).
>If we were you, we might try to suppress your rise
At least they admit it. We need to crush them before it's too late. China must be destroyed.
HAPPENING
Kissinger's wrong but it is nice to hear the globalists negotiating respectfully. They are so fucking scared now.
It feels surreal knowing that the entire political establishment, both repubs and dems, are now more aggressive than Kissinger. Why do they cling so hard to this bizarre fetish for exporting american values everwhere?
More Kissinger on Trump
General:
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Trump can go down in history as one of the most significant presidents in history
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On Trump amd ISIS (notice how he mentions the islamic part in the name while the reporter prefers acronyms)
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Seems lika a woke guy to me
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>ukraine
no such thing
Kissinger's slimy af but he got shit done. Ignoring his advice completely is just stupid.
I wish this joke would just die already.
Everything he said can be summed up in "stick to the plan goyim!!!"
>new peace deal in the Middle East
More like Israel now calls the shots
War crimes.
This nigger got a lot of good white men killed and is a parasite in general. He's up there on most everyone's rope delivery list
>implying Israel wants us to leave Syria alone
>implying Israel wants ISIS destroyed
What do you propose Trump do instead?
When can you two meet?
Idiot, do you think only Shias fight for Assad? The majority of conscipts in SAA are Sunni dumbass
I agree. He's kind of seen as this wise elder god of foreign policy/diplomacy that all presidents consult, so whether you like the guy or not, that's just how things in Washington work. Also him and GHW Bush probably still get daily CIA briefings.
I notice what you did there.
Also
>advice
Kissinger wants a NA Union
1) He's exactly right, but the question is, is US growth and Chinese growth a zero-sum game for the rest of SEA? I'm not comfortable with the idea of China as a true superpower, either. I feel that some form of armed conflict is inevitable.
2) I think that normalizing relations with Russia, and letting them flex their muscles is a good thing. The EU, or whatever it becomes, needs to be Russia's counterbalance, but we have to spend our time managing China more than Europe, so if the EU fails to be useful in that regard, I see no problem with Russia becoming the regional power that they're pretending to be.
3) Correct. Europe is almost irrelevant on the world stage now, and needs to stand up on its own again. Dissolving NATO is the shock their system needs.
4) I'd like to see what happens if the US goes completely hands-off in the ME, but the nature of the petrodollar makes that unlikely.
Im looking for what that pole dude thinls of Trump too
Anyone else I should check?
>dont defeat our manufactured enemy goyim
>dont protect our allies in Asia goyim
>instead go to war with and destroy the white Christians in Russia goyim that would be a better use of our blood and treasure
>dont let the european goyim follow brexit and throw of the chains of jewish socialism goyim
>continue to support ISIS in syria and force the balkanization of the region like we did to the white goyim in Yugoslavia
This kike should have been gassed decades ago. Sorry guys but if Trump does not immediately shut this schlomo out after the inauguration we may have to treat him as an enemy. In Fact the second Trump takes office he should arrest Kissinger and have him tried for war-crimes.
>muh people dead
He is a strategic genius and is one of the west's leading figures.
He has plenty of experience, but it's bad experience. Trump would do best to do the opposite of anything that war criminal has to say. Dumb dumb
reported to the CMP
>This kike should have been gassed decades ago
He's like 93 years old. I'm sure if we wait just a little bit longer, nature will...assassinate him for us.
doing what he does best now
eating
>Iran must be contained, much as the Soviet Union was in the Cold War, because it poses a similar threat, acting as both an imperial state and a revolutionary cause. But keep the Iran agreement because to abandon it now “would free Iran from more constraints than it would free the United States.” And finally take advantage of the new-found, albeit tacit, anti-Iranian and anti-ISIS alignment of the Arab states with Israel to achieve a new kind of Arab-sponsored peace deal that would “improve the lives of Palestinians to the greatest extent possible, perhaps including quasi-sovereignty . . . that is, de facto autonomy without a legalistic superstructure.”
Bible prophecy states that persia (iran) will nuke the new/mystery babylon of mecca.
the "iran wants to nuke america" meme is from saudi propagandists
for those of you that know the difference between Sunni, and Shia ideologies
Iran and Shia based Muslims will genocide the Sunnis.
i think he's a jesuit. I think Trump joked about him being a catholic.
all of this is playing out to the interests of the catholic NWO church
Thats the opposite of what he said so. And Niall Ferguson went even further in the article and said rhe US should cuck the EU with its own anglo Northern Atlantic sphere of influence (with no mexico)
>tfw no USA, Russia, secular nationalist Iran, Japan alliance to BTFO arabs and chinks
He supports stability over everything. Even human rights, he doesn't give a fuck.
The idea being, you can't have investment and development in destabilized countries where, for instance, property rights are provisional. He'll prop up and support murderous dictators as long as they are friendly towards the western establishment, under the assumption that foreign money will eventually liberalize the society.
Soros is doesn't give a fuck about stability. His Open Society project is a giant social engineering project to erase all boundaries between countries, ethnicity, and culture. He believes this is the only way to transcend human tribalism and end conflict. He doesn't care if he destroys the world in the processes, because he thinks human tribalism will destroy it eventually anyway.
The thing is though that you have to be very careful with it, since they both will provide you with good immediate next steps such that you would become myopically interested in their one world vision.
So in other words, take them foremost for their analysis when they recommend only immediate actions. Wait for when they elaborate longer term trends in order to make a better assessment of where they are really steering and whether or not the order is worth the shit.
For this reason, it is very important to keep council with a number of different advisors.
>letting the enemy die of old age
>not bringing the elite to justice for the world to see
Kill em all
>Bible prophecy
Great post, my fellow Aryan.
is that a challenge, lord kek?
Kissinger is not a neocon, he is a pragmatist/realist