Just watched HyperNormalisation

>just watched HyperNormalisation
>black pilled again

And just as I get over the black pill of reading Abolition of Britain...

Is despair the only path left open to us?

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I'm so far down the rabbit hole after shit like jackdurden.com and pol that this seemed over rated, but it's probably a big eye opener for most normies.

Watching it right now.

tldr the movie for me, I've read mixed reviews

if it's more of the same shit I'm not going to bother watching

It's worth watching. Lots of info.

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adam curtis is blue pill dumb shit u tard

It's complete garbage.

If it was blue pill it would on the TV and not tucked away on the iPlayer.

Or will you argue that the politicians and elite ARE facing up to the complexity of the world and are NOT painting a totally false semi-reality that is easier to digest?

keep your head in the sand as Trump an Putin make truth fake

That is Satan doing that. The ``light pill'' is in the King James version of the Holy Bible.

Yeah, explaining us how Assad/Trump/Putin/Brexit are bad is not bluepill at all. Sure thing.

>bbc

dropped

Why?

Protip: when whites become a minority, they'll fight back

The only reason South Africa hasn't cleansed the niggers, is because there would be international consequences (i.e.: other white people meddling)

I think you're missing the point. The point is that this is the breakdown of the simple narrative that was built up.

Example: Assad is our enemy! But he's fighting ISIS, who are our enemy! So, which one is the Good Guy and which one is the Bad Guy?

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Become Being.

>when whites become a minority, they'll fight back
[citation needed]

The spirit, self-preservation, and pride of whites has been so severely beaten down that the idea of fighting back will never occur to them, even when they're in the corner. In fact many believe that this is what SHOULD happen. That's why so many white liberals love that the Mayor of London is a Muslim.

>The only reason South Africa hasn't cleansed the niggers, is because there would be international consequences (i.e.: other white people meddling)

Explain why this wont occur elsewhere.

Adam Curtis is fucking shit. It's a documentary form version of thom yorke's cryptic political tweets. It's just him saying vague shit, with buzzwords regurgitated from guardian articles like 'post-truth' with a soundtrack of nine inch nails

It gives some nice redpills while trying to follow a bluepill narrative which doesn't really fit so you get a pretty redpilled movie if you think for yourself

No point trying to explain it to someone who believes they're already 'red-pilled'.

He's chosen his version of the truth.
Mind's to closed too accept criticism of anyone he's chosen as a hero.

Top kek

It's just fucking nothing, their is absolutely no critical thinking in the whole movie. It just wants to sounds intellectual to the BBC viewers.

And at the end, after having said basically nothing during 2 long hours, he end up demonizing Trump and the Brexit. Lmao really make me think.

...

watched it yesterday, made me think.

it just enforced my already held beliefs to be honest

STOP WATCHING ADAM CURTIS, IT CAN END RIGHT MAN, I HAD A PSYCHOTIC BREAKDOWN AFTER "ALL WATCHED OVER BY MACHINES OF LOVING GRACE" JUST DROP HIM

It explained the state of the middle east pretty well and explained well what led to a reality TV star crushing the political establishment
Other than that it sucks cocks

This unfortunately Used to be into him but the more of his docs I watched the more I came to realise his content is just very modern art-ish and quite hollow in content. More like a movie than a documentary. Although Century of Self is still very enjoyable and quite red-pilling for people just beginning to become awake.

>he end up demonizing Trump and the Brexit

He does no such thing. He just highlights that they make so sense to the closed bubbles that have been built. The only thing he directly attacks are politicians like Obama and Cameron for refusing to either admit or accept the genuine complexities that they are faced with (and questions whether they even know).

And because, much like in the Soviet Union, people could see through the falseness but just couldn't see a solution, people just accepted things as they were until a solution (no matter how strange compared to reality up until that point) presented itself.

>If it was blue pill it would on the TV and not tucked away on the iPlayer.
Not really mate. It just makes him appear edgy and not part of the establishment. Doesn't mean it's true.

this

he understands what's happening. quite a unique perspective, well worth the watch

>2016
shit looks like something from the 90s, whats up with the quality

style

>15 minutes in
>muh israel
>muh palestinians

>turn on captions
>Donald Drumpf

WTF?

>is despair the only path left open to us
For fucks sake, get a grip. If that's your response to eye opening information then you're part of the problem that is leading us towards total collapse

Welcome to Adam Curtis documentaries. Stock footage, catchy but slightly unsettling music and buzzwords await.

One person cannot change a world that doesn't want to be changed.

>The Abolition of Britain

GAYS ARE BAD!
BUGGERY KILLS!
BOILED SWEETS!

Curtis documentaries are sloppy.

He says "EVERYONE believed this" or "EVERYONE did that" every 5 minutes or so. You can't just say that EVERYONE in a country thought a certain way about a particular event.

He also, like every documentary film maker, overtly moralizes everything he studies, filtering all information though the age he grew up in. A make believe 1960's Britain where politicians really cared and represented the needs of the people.

I don't think hes duplicitous or nefarious with his intentions, he's just struggling with some incredibly complicated concepts and trying to tie a narrative together. I'll watch anything he produces, but always with a grain of salt.

thoughtmaybe.com/
Here is better place to see all his films.

>Trump used the same techniques in his presidential campaign by using language from Occupy Wall Street and the extreme racist right-wing.
>racist right-wing
>racist

You expect me to take this seriously?

But one person crying in a corner like a little bitch sure as shit does nothing. Hitler was a failed art student and managed to turn his country around, you're just making excuses

He is frequently referred to as "conspiracy theorist" by the MSM

Yeah, his facts are interesting, but he projects his own thoughts too much, he's bias to his own conclusions.

>interpreting people literally

what can go wrong with that?

But people WANTED to be turned around, they just didn't have a leader to rally around to do it.

And even if such a want was there, then any one who could do it would suffer an "accident."

Like how Jonathan Bowden randomly dies of a heart attack despite not even being 50 years old.

People like their multiculturalism, and those that don't like their facebook, gogglebox, and booze more than they hate the state of the nation.

PEOPLE DO WANT TO BE TURNED AROUND
>what is Brexit?
>what is Trump?

I had a feeling someone would say this, but unfortunately he needs to clarify what he means in size and scope more often. You really can't say "everyone believes A" when that simply is not true. You can say "Some people believed A" which is alot more defensible. Also, he does it all the time. A few times in a documentary is kinda forgivable, but its over and over.

>Brexit

Wont happen in any way that will actually help those that wanted it, and you know it. Already poeple like Leadsom are saying that they should allow migrants for farm work, and May has already said not to expect a "hard" Brexit.

>Trump
If he has a chance of improving anything expect him to get JFK'd.

no, he doesn't. people use the language they have. if you want to be prickly about everything, so be it. but you're going to get it wrong.

he wants to communicate, not make a mathematical proof of the state of the world

Jeez, Hypernormalisation is hyper boring when you've been on Sup Forums a while. Nothing new to see, waste of pixels, sad!

All true, however you missed the point: people WANT change, those who want multiculturalism and those who don't are pretty much split 50/50. We'll probably see a war in our life times so it's wise for you to cut that cynical bullshit out because if everyone on our side was like you we'd lose.

>If he has a chance of improving anything expect him to get JFK'd.

He won't do shit except maybe take some steps to start to deal with illegal immigration. Meanwhile, the flood of legal immigrants will continue to erode our majority rule which will end by 2050 if not sooner.

>Nothing new to see, waste of pixels, sad!

Someone wants to write like Trump...

You sound a bit bluepilled m8.

do you want to say something about what I said, or you wanted to just be a faggot?

>being this new.

I started watching it and got through the initial 1975 bit and Assad's suicide bombings campaign, and those parts were fairly interesting. I kept reading through the posts to get a clearer picture what it was about, before I finally decided to look at wikipedia and get a concise synopsis of what I'm in for.

I honestly don't know what to tell you, OP. Either you haven't been browsing for very long, or you're just slow to catch on. The notion that the political elite structure a false narrative to justify their agenda is heinous, but hardly new or unexpected. That society suffers from a disconnect to the real world and the ability to empathise with it isn't news either.

The sooner you realise Western civilisation's ran its course, and that we're en route for another period of turmoil akin to that after the fall of the Roman Empire, the more content you'll be with the knowledge that the West can never truly die.

>those who want multiculturalism and those who don't are pretty much split 50/50

It will split 75/25 in favour of multiculturalism in a few years once the old people die and the liberal whites and non-whites in their entirety become the majority.

>We'll probably see a war in our life times

Yeah, where the white patriots will be gunned down by other whites to keep the Great Replacement on its tracks.

>if everyone on our side was like you we'd lose.
We have lost. 1/3 of births are non-British (ethnically) and that will increase as governments continue to bring in 100s of thousands every year.

I wish i i was that good of a videographer. His own footage in his films is minimal. It's all mostly stock with suberp editing and music

Just telling you what I've observed from your posts. Your emotionally driven irrational defence to any kind of criticism of your idol is a clear sign you're still bluepilled.

The upcoming generation Z is actually pretty conservative. There's a reason why they call it a pendulum.

>Hypernormalization
meh

the only part I found interesting was the rampant nihilism at the end of the USSR, it kind of reminds me of the present-day west, the only difference being we cover up our despair with irony and humour and the Russians didn't.

I've heard that little quip from that Russian woman talking about how her dreams are dead a million times in my own life, but it is always "just a joke", whereas she was talking earnestly. But it isn't really a joke, people truly have no dreams at all these days in our society, they just pretend they do and vent their frustration with humour by saying "My dreams are all dead and I have absolutely nothing to live for, JUST KIDDING LOL (but not really, please help me)".

>The upcoming generation Z is actually pretty conservative

We'll see how conservative they are after another 10 years of media and educational re-programming.

>no point about the discussion
>just baseless generalizations
faggot it is.

>extreme racist right wing.
>extreme racist
>extreme

There you go. He clarified it already. You just decided to ignore it.

You can make brexit happen and you can force trump to make change if you organise and create noise.

Can't oneone just briefly summarize what it's about and what it covers? I know you think that people should watch it themselves but by being that fucking vague no one will dedicate 2,5 hours on that crap.

Just spill the beans and if people are interested they will watch the whole thing.

reddit-tier.

That's not how it works. The only reason millennials are as bluepilled as they are is because their ideology stems from a counterculture that rose up during a period where the establishment was fairly conservative/right-wing.

Are you retarded? It makes the implication Trump uses extreme racist right-wing rhetoric.

fuck I've been saying this for years

> lying through abstraction

that's what it is

Uh that's not really the point of the movie dipshit.

It's just your typical Adam Curtis doc that ultimately makes no point or argument or observation in particular and offers no solution to anything. It has a loose theme about "faking reality" and skewed perception and its effect on politics and society.

It's an interesting watch if you're bored but you won't really walk away from it any more informed than you were before, just like every other Adam Curtis documentary.

Adam Curtis isn't a retard who spouts journalistic newspeak like "post truth" or suffer from scientism. You can call his stuff shallow but he isn't as bad as journalists at all.

I thought journalists were supposed to break past the veneer of shallowness.

Hypernormalization is probably my least favorite Adam Curtis documentary. It doesn't seem to have a point like the other ones do, it's just a meandering critique of modern news and information decay, all while he refuses to take a concrete position on what any of it means.

Bitter Lake, Century of the Self, and All Watched Over are required viewing, because they explain academic movements that don't really permeate to our level. But HN feels like a freshman paper he had to crank out at the last minute to get in before the election.

Ultimately it's about disinformation becoming mainstream and also some tangents about suicide bombing and economic news clouding our understanding of the world.

>burger understanding

I figured, the entire idea is vague judging from peoples summary and the trailer. I get the feeling the whole documentary is to.

What does the whole 'fake world' meme even mean.

It means most people interpret what they see on the news as being true, without questioning why it's presented to them the way it is.

>The upcoming generation Z is actually pretty conservative

>Quoting a study taken in the UK
>Not realising that these young people are non-white

Putin and Trump are just products of the current movement-less political era we're in, as far as the movie is concerned. He only deals with them for a couple minutes at the end, which feels like a last minute addition to get some hot twitter action going.

The entire documentary is summed up in this video he made years earlier, and which he cribbed into the movie anyway.

youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

One day I'll remember to hit ctrl + v when I mean to.

Mayfair Set too. Though that's probably too UK specific for most.

>I thought journalists were supposed to break past the veneer of shallowness.
what's your suggestion then? gib more red-pilled documentaries

>the greatest story never told
you're a fucking joke.

lol and he needed a whole documentary to make that point?

>Is despair the only path left open to us?

That depends. Is your despair being transforming will to power?

Why does no one ever ask themselves this? It simply never happens. Everyone acknowledges their misery and disagreement with the status quo, but no one transforms their disdain into constructive action.

>3 hours

Here's something better if you want to get fucking pilled up

youtube.com/watch?v=UrJGlXEs8nI

It's all about social engineering via media manipulation really, something Curtis already covered in one of his better documentaries. I think Hypernormalisation was an attempt to "update" his ideas about media manipulation, propaganda and social engineering but there really isn't much to update, and so Hypernormalisation feels more like a vague infodump than an actual documentary. I think Curtis tried to scrounge together enough information to form a new observation about present-day media but kind of failed to do so and ended up saying the same thing he always has, but with more Trump, Putin and internet media and less Bush and television media.

Most of the vignettes are updates on segments from earlier documentaries. HN is a pretty shit place to start with Adam Curtis, I recommend either All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace if you care about social shit, or Bitter Lake if you're more of a GeoPol guy.

Or just watch the shortform films if you would rather.

youtu.be/fxV3_bG1EHA

>Explain why this wont occur elsewhere.

The first to burn off are the moderates and the nominals. Once they give up, only the most extreme elements of the Right remain. Far-Righters then work to play on the feelings of despair that exist within those who have given up as a means of transforming will to power.

This is EXACTLY what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. You MUST go to where the people are, and you MUST engage with the interests of those most disaffected. Then, with popular support, you set up a TOP-DOWN political structure which takes advantage of populist sentiments, whilst also using fear to keep down any possible dissenters.

That is how you win, by gaining support from the bottom and then using a top-down control structure to solidify the sentiments of the people into a cohesive force.

There's been several studies. The counterculture phenomenon still holds true.

I'd expect them to report on well-researched and verifiable topics, taken from unbiased and equally verifiable sources, without allowing their political bias to get in the way.

>the greatest story never told

I never implied it. If you have to substitute truth and evidence with gross exaggerations of what goes against the narrative, then your perception of reality is obviously skewed.

>BBC documentary
>Red Pill

My father gave me the only Pill:
Don´t believe what (((they))) write, don´t believe what (((they))) say.

I first watched this about 9 years ago. Still holds up and is probably still the best documentary available on the on the banking industry and the rise of the rothschilds.

Sounds like a nazi : ^ /

I found the parts about the middle east (Assads father, suicide bombings, Gadhafi, Saddam) really interesting.
Then there were the russian bits about political/civil engineering (state funding/infiltration of opposition) that set the tone of the whole documentary.
The parts about Trump were complete garbage, just skip those unless you want to rage. He literally wants you to believe that Trump was completely funded by government loans to make his NYC real estate deals. Then an asian guy walks into Trump's casino, gets lucky by winning a couple mill and suddenly Trump is utterly broke, has to close all casinos, sell all his property and henceforth only sells his name to be put on other peoples buildings.

Actually in Britain you'll be arrested before even a single other person can hear what you have to say, thrown into prison with some Muslims who stab you with a shiv or met your face off with boiling sugar water.

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I like his interview here. Pretty good shit.

>I'd expect them to report on well-researched and verifiable topics, taken from unbiased and equally verifiable sources, without allowing their political bias to get in the way.
you're expecting something he isn't. he's telling a story, the world as he sees it. that's it.
there are other journalists who do that, as best they can.

Curtis is shit pseudo intellectual nonsense.

This is a good parody of his shit attempts at being an intellectual

m.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg

The Adam Curtis model is to set up one contrast of ideas or one intellectual movement, and to tie a bunch of events to it to create a narrative. Sometimes it's really interesting and really makes you think, but sometimes it's a horrible stretch.

Personally I hate the recent movement of Gaddafi apologists. Adam Curtis made it seem like he was shunned out of convenience, not because he was a fucking nut. Try to read his book, it's worse than a Sup Forums blog post.