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>Things are reaching a flashpoint, and the system is concerned about controlling President-elect Trump given his rumored friendliness with Putin and plans to drop sanctions.
>Will there be a “shock” designed to correct Trump’s foreign policy, and set-off the ticking time bomb between East and West into all-out hostilities?
Those who are about to die, we salute you.
>wins US presidency
>cucked by Merkel of all people
Self bump because this is more important than cuck porn
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does anyone have more informations?
deep in most newspapers, you would think deploying forces on russias doorstep would be top news.
You can't self bump on this board, cancerfag.
Have a bump.
germany doesn't stream anything that doesn't fit our pro obama/clinton/migration world view :^)
Thats why i didnt comment on my own comment
Which is pretty fucked because if war does come Germany will be the front line.
interestingly the timing is perfect
our EU army is still inofficial but there are "speculations" that it has got equipment and troops available already and germany was just allowed to engage in wars again..
They tried really, but Putin just won't take the bait.
I hope so but I cant help but think they will do something Putin cant ignore.
Do you think the military will play along? I mean i guess they will start it by shelling their own people at the border and then blaming it on the ruskies but will people fall for it?
Will the military guys just look to Mattis and Trump and see what they say?
12 replies and no
>zerohedge
I really dont know The world is on a knifes edge
we are very close to oblivion
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I trust Zerohedge over CNN, zerohedge doesn't lie about its bias and agenda, zerohedge doesn't pretend its objective.
This is fucked yo.
>we are very close to oblivion
Yeah, really happy that i am not living in a nuclear power state.
GLHF burgers, slavs, frogs and bongs
>implying Russia wont occupy sweeden on day 1
geographically Scandinavia is a knife over the heart of Europe, sorry friendo but that Russian sub is waiting for orders.
>Zerohedge
ok bud
>the system is concerned about controlling President-elect Trump given his rumored friendliness with Putin and plans to drop sanctions
how will he drop the sanction with a Neo-Con senate?
this is straight up roleplaying at this point
Good. I'm ready to go to war. The amount of rage I feel for this world will fuel my desire to kill as many as possible for the future of my country.
Anyone who thinks patriotism is a Jew ploy or so other excuse is a spineless coward who should be hung. I'll fucking piss on your shallow graves and laugh while doing so you unorganized, pathetic, unmotivated shitstains of sub human filth.
You are the cancer that will be purged from our nation, not any specific ethnicity, or gender, or religion, or ideology. The earth will be soaked in the blood of those who did nothing when every man, and woman were needed to protect our nation.
You live in a society built upon the shoulders of great men and women. You parrot rhetoric about how much your heritage means, then hypocritically chastise others for wanting to protect their own.
You want war, and soon you'll have it. If you don't step up to the plate after all this talk, do not beg for mercy when you stand at the gallows.
>>implying Russia wont occupy sweeden on day 1
You're right, that would be so much worse then the current government.
Oh wait.
>geographically Scandinavia is a knife over the heart of Europe, sorry friendo but that Russian sub is waiting for orders.
And? We have no nukes and our military has been destroyed and demoralized by the politicians so there is really no reason to nuke us.
>Good. I'm ready to go to war. The amount of rage I feel for this world will fuel my desire to kill as many as possible for the future of Zionism
ftfy
Good goy
>They tried really, but Putin just won't take the bait.
And neither will Trump or most Americans if they try to false-flag us on Russia.
It's got to be so frustrating for Hillary/Soros and their globalist friends. Two centuries or more of easily duping the public into costly wars, and suddenly both sides, the BIGGEST sides ever, call their bluff. Right when they really need it the most.
They're losing the biggest profit potential ever, along with a lot of their power. Must suck.
Good. I'm ready to go get laid. The amount of rage I feel for this world will fuel my desire to fuck as many as possible for the future of my country.
Anyone who thinks pornography is a Jew ploy or so other excuse is a spineless coward who is well hung. I'll fucking cum on your shallow graves and laugh while doing so you unorganized, pathetic, unmotivated shitstains of sub human filth.
You are the cum-stains that will be purged from our sheets, not any specific ethnicity, or gender, or religion, or ideology. My bed will be soaked in the bodily fluids of those who did nothing when every man, and woman were needed for sexual excitement.
You live in a society built upon the breeding of great men and women. You parrot rhetoric about how much your heritage means, then hypocritically chastise others for wanting to make their own.
You want my love, and soon you'll have it. If you don't step up to the plate after all this talk, do not beg for mercy when you're on your knees drinking my load.
WW3 will start from middle east. Will result in abolishing of abrahamic religions. Praise Thoth! Praise Kek!
>troop deployment agreed last summer at the NATO summit
It's fucking nothing.
>le nuclear war
always was a fantasy nukes will be used a bit but not in a 80's style world destruction way.
there is a reason the generals call it a nuclear "deterrent" they were never meant to be offensive weapons..
No the war will primarily be conventional with several cities vaporized for good measure.
>a secular roach
whats that like, for real would your friends disapprove?
>And neither will Trump or most Americans if they try to false-flag us on Russia.
They can just nuke a major city, declare martial law, blame it on Iran, invade them, shell some of their own troops at the border and blame it on Russia ''Putin defends the terrorist state of Iran!'' and then you can't get of that ride.
My friends don't disapprove my religious beliefs but i think they would disapprove of abolishing their religion. kek.
There is no reason to vaporize a whole continent when you can just hit a few cities occupy some ports and force a peace treaty
Why anyone thinks nuclear Armageddon could happen is beyond me. Get gud at motive and game theory assholes.
>merkle and EU try to fuck with merica
>U.S just leaves NATO
now what? I mean honestly at this point in time it might be more worthwhile to ally with russian than fucking Europe with how cucked they are.
Edgy. Hope you're ready to kill a man.
A lot have happened with missiles since the cold war ended, some people might feel that a nuclear war could be winnable because you could just shoot down (at least most of them) what ever the enemy responds with after your first massive first strike.
Pic semi related, not an ABM but still pretty impressive
>Free trade and other cultures are good
>Removing sanctions and being friends with Russia is bad
What did they mean by this?
Jokes on you, I'm unfit for the draft.
BUT MUH COLD WAR LEGACY. YOU COMMIE PINKO RUSKIE SYMPATHIZER.
>There is no reason to vaporize a whole continent when you can just hit a few cities occupy some ports and force a peace treaty
Yeah there is, the enemy is nuking you and your nukes so naturally you launch your nukes (or they get BTFO sitting in their silos) on everything of value. Cities, nuclear silos, ports, factories, airfields etc. There is no way they could occupy the US anyway so they might just destroy it.
>spooky nuke skellys.avi
since Terminator 2:Judgement Day skellys and nukes have some weird romance
ffs keep your pawns in check, burgers.
Balts are gonna go if it turns into a god damn line of battle between this dickwaving competition.
Though what are the chances of US taking Kaliningrad before Trump btfo's this nonsense?
>They can just nuke a major city, declare martial law, blame it on Iran, invade them
>They can just nuke a major city
>just nuke a major city
Nuclear weapons are unique, they have signatures. The people who can test and verify these things don't all work for the government. Nukes are extremely hard to false-flag with.
Think geopolitically: nuking a random city doesn't really help Russia in any meaningful way, just pisses off America and turns most of Moscow into craters.
This isn't CoD where countries just fly off to war over anything.
You can talkk to generals about this if you want but the idea of full blown nuclear war A la most movies is fanciful science fiction
and even if it did happen (which it wouldn't) the world wouldn't turn into terminator or fallout we would recover in just a few decades.
cool webm though
>US taking Kaliningrad
literally how
they have 1 armoured division rolling around Poland and that's it
>What did they mean by this?
They mean that Russia just payed of their just debt to the Rothschild owned centra bank and then kicked them the fuck out of their country.
>zerohedge
meme-tier conspiritard fake news website
>This isn't CoD where countries just fly off to war over anything.
>I swear goyim, they have chemical weapons!
>muh democracy is endangered!
>we must help the locals fight ebil dictatorship they elected!
>You can talkk to generals
So generals start wars now? Interesting, tell me more.
>and even if it did happen (which it wouldn't) the world wouldn't turn into terminator or fallout we would recover in just a few decades.
I know that, billions would still die and it would suck pretty hard. But i know its not a world ending scenario that would wipe out humanity.
>Nuclear weapons are unique, they have signatures. The people who can test and verify these things don't all work for the government. Nukes are extremely hard to false-flag with.
Israel most likely have nukes, they haven't been inspected and no one even knows how many they got or how good they are. They could just take one those.
You know, seeing as the same people that own the US and the banks also owns Israel.
>Think geopolitically: nuking a random city doesn't really help Russia in any meaningful way, just pisses off America and turns most of Moscow into craters.
I never implied that Russia would be the ones nuking. I said false flag.
>This isn't CoD where countries just fly off to war over anything.
The US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because some Saudi guy living in Pakistan was blamed by the CIA and Mossad for a terror attack that they committed.
But it think we will get through this without ww3.
That strat only works in sand countries, and only works 1-2 times.
The public has been wary of false-flags and fake news for a while now, but we still couldn't do much to stop Obama/Clinton from arming "rebels" and creating no-fly zones.
Now the Commander-in-Chief agrees with the public and also doesn't want to start war with Russia. It would be very difficult at this point.
And just like you said:
>>I swear goyim, they have chemical weapons!
We all know by now that the Jews and globalists tricked us into war to fight countries who dropped their ((central banks)). Russia doesn't hate us and we don't hate them, the globalists just want us to since RU doesn't play central-bank-ball anymore.
>They mean that Russia just payed of their just debt to the Rothschild owned centra bank and then kicked them the fuck out of their country.
Damn it, of course just when I start going back to school, get a sane girlfriend and start looking at condos does the US Gov decide to start WWIII. They couldn't have done this ten years ago when I underemployed and ready for it.
No. Putin knows what's up. Trump knows what's up. Even if Obama did something retarded, short of US bombing Russian civilians or some kind of false flag here that blames the Russians, we will be fine.
I wish you could view alternate timelines though, I wonder how long it would have taken Clinton to fire up the war machine.
>This isn't CoD where countries just fly off to war over anything.
Why did some western countries bomb Libya? Why are you funding ''rebels'' in Syria? The globalists are committed, wouldn't be surprised it they go all in and then kick the table over when it doesn't work.
For years now, the US have been deploying troops, military basis and missiles ALL OVER eastern Europe. That's their strategy, making some sort of military barrier between Russia and western Europe. Nothing new, guys.
The deterrent doesn't work if you don't have the will to use it, dumbass.
We nearly nuked the species into extinction because of shit like birds, and missile sites being too close to arbitrary borders. the MAD doctrine only fucking works in the first place if you fire nukes the moment conflict starts. Nukes totally lose their strategic value if you don't immediatly fire them on the onset of war because it gives your opponent the initiative to launch theirs.
You HAVE to pre-emptively strike or you fucking auto-lose. That's why the cold war stayed cold in the first place. God damn you people are stupid. It's not going to be like 'Wargame: European Escalation' or 'World in Conflict'. There is going to be no physical fighting. We're just going to have war declared, and 30 minutes later both countries, if not the entire world, will become a clusterfuck of radiation.
Have the webm of the nuke with a time designated as April? That's not much to go on but if you've seen it I'm sure you'll recognize it.
>Things are different now
no im sorry even with nukes we will still slaughter each other by the millions like always
>They could just take one those.
And Russia could easily prove it's not one of theirs. Trump and the American public would be eager for this info.
>I said false flag.
Me too. My point is nobody would believe Russia nuked a random city because we all know it doesn't really serve their interests.
>Iraq/Afghan
They had a major advantage with a POTUS/congress already on board, and an American public who was easy to fool and war-hungry. This was also before the economy took a major shit multiple times.
Now the public hates war, almost everyone knows the Russia hate is artificial and egged on by the ((media)), and the POTUS is actively trying to remain friends with Russia.
>Have the webm of the nuke with a time designated as April?
You mean easy? Pretty sure they never named them after months, for obvious mix up reasons.
>We're just going to have war declared,
You think we will even have that?
>The public has been wary of false-flags and fake news for a while now, but we still couldn't do much to stop Obama/Clinton from arming "rebels" and creating no-fly zones.
>Now the Commander-in-Chief agrees with the public and also doesn't want to start war with Russia. It would be very difficult at this point.
I don't think that many people will fall for it either, but you don't need every one to fall for it either. If you cut communication (blame it on Russian hackers) the idiots who believe will be isolated anyway.
Because Libya and Syria do not have nukes. If you have a nuke you will not be invaded. US and Russia will never go into a ground war with each other. It will all be done through proxies.
Except we wont. Well, okay, technically, we will with nukes, but not with armies. The nukes only strategically 'work' if you fire them from the beginning. The war would be over within the hour because neither side could afford the pissing match of having their standing armies go at it in the first place.
That's the one. Thanks a ton senpai. I love this one, looks entirely apocalyptic.
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>waiting the WWIII to be in an old-fashioned way.
So you really are human garbage? That's OK, enjoy your life while you can, it won't last much longer.
>And Russia could easily prove it's not one of theirs. Trump and the American public would be eager for this info.
And? Russia could prove that the chemical weapons in Syria wasn't used by Assad, nobody cared and you still have people claiming Assad chemically ali'd his own people.
>Me too. My point is nobody would believe Russia nuked a random city because we all know it doesn't really serve their interests.
As i said, just blame it on of their allies like Iran. Or a group inside Iran and then attack Iran because ''they refused to cooperate''
You know, kinda like ww1 was started.
>Now the public hates war, almost everyone knows the Russia hate is artificial and egged on by the ((media)), and the POTUS is actively trying to remain friends with Russia.
Agreed, they might still try though. What more do they have to loose? Like Clinton said, its the noose for them if he gets it.
Dumping some more nukes
Nothing is going to start, US doesn't have remotely enough forces to attack Russia in Europe, and won't have in any foreseeable future. Their troop deployments are a geopolitical equivalent of an upvote or retweet.
>both countries, if not the entire world, will become a clusterfuck of radiation.
No, just a few major cities, military bases, and factories where subs/nukes/B2s are made. Neither side wants to genocide the other, just shut down their military to force a surrender.
Where do you guys get this idea that Russia or America would carpet bomb the country side with Tsar-Bombas?
Science fiction
>Their troop deployments are a geopolitical equivalent of an upvote or retweet.
3500 tanks delivered by air. This costs huuuge amount of monies, and the Americans are very upset when tax money are wasted on nothing.
As much as I know the deep state would do just about anything to stop Trump from taking office, a few thousand US troops in Poland is nothing to worry about. Hell we even have some troops in the Ukraine from time to time. 2,500 Burger troops is nothing but a training mission.
Any one saving the nukes? I have all ready dumped so many i might as well do the rest if any one is interested
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lol nope
>This costs huuuge amount of monies,
Is this why they borrowed 100 billion in 8 hours a few days ago?
>42 billion left until 20 trillion in debt
Yeah, it literally doesn't even matter anymore. We're never going to pay our debts anyway.
Nukes you can actually determine where the plutonium pit came from, like down to which power plant reactor created the Plutonium.
>nobody cared
The vast majority of the public cared and was against any intervention in Syria. The media was the only ones begging for boots on the ground. Soros and friends had to "settle" for just arming rebels. In the end, that didn't work for them, Syria remained central-bank-free.
The days of OIF are over. The public, and now the POTUS, won't just haul off to war over nothing.
>they might still try though. What more do they have to loose? Like Clinton said, its the noose for them if he gets it.
Now THIS honestly scares me and a lot of Americans. You're very right, they're about to lose all their power, billions of invested dollars and the potential for trillions more, along with taking out the biggest non-rothschild country left on the planet.
I don't think the public will get tricked into war, but I definitely believe Soros and his pizza-loving friends will detonate a nuke on US soil to try. Hope it's not St. Louis.
>3500 tanks delivered by air
3500 troops, not tanks.
>Americans are very upset when tax money are wasted on nothing
On the contrary, they do it all the time.
>The entire cold war is science fiction because I want to play make-believe that I'll get a real life World in Conflict or Wargame
Okay, user.
>claiming conventional war is science fiction while peddling actual science fiction
there have been many conventional wars and exactly 0 nuclear wars so suck on a dick.
Looks like we struck a nerve somewhere guys.
Front page is new bait threads, and this friendly discussion got pushed to page 6.
Means we're on the right track.
Hitler trips of righteous truth and fury
>there have been many conventional wars and exactly 0 nuclear wars so suck on a dick.
What about this one?
>correct Trump’s foreign policy
if you know it's going to start WW3 why do you say it's being "corrected" you fucking mongs
>0 nuclear wars
Well shit I guess Japan missed the memo. Now take that, and multiply it a few hundred times, then slap yourself for being a clueless retard.
Fake news
Considering Russia did send forces into Ukraine, it'd be prudent to beef up the presence of forces nearby.
>inb4 vatniks come in and no, no, no Rooskie in Ukraine! Russia Dindu-Vodka!
>Nuclear weapons are unique, they have signatures. The people who can test and verify these things don't all work for the government. Nukes are extremely hard to false-flag with.
Yeah so hard for the CIA to obtain a nuke through North korea or Iran and link it to Russia. Remember that the general public actually bought that the Berlin driver just stuffed his ID under the drivers seat.
The American public, and unfortunately the vast majority of Trump voters WILL fall for this false flag unless we expose the Jew and the Zionists very soon.
I still don't understand the reason this topic is even being discussed. I get the logic behind the Cold War, sort of. But how would a war make sense now of all times? Over what? What is the worst case scenario for US here? Partial loss of influence in Europe and Pacific? What exactly would they go to war over?
>start enlisting in 2015
>they hold up my medical processing for a massive scar on my leg from when I got rekt by some barbed wire years ago
>go back to school and work for a while, reapply, went to MEPS last month, going to basic in February
>gonna have to fight Chinese and Russians instead of Arabs like I hoped
Better sign up before you get drafted, boys.
>Over what?
Fractional reserve banking and the right to issue debt.
using nukes doesnt make a war non conventional, they simply wont be used in a massive way
as I said earlier several cities will get vaporized but it wont be an different than a usual war.
What's the problem with Australia by the way? You were among the strongest supporters of Ukraine.
Australia doesn't even have neighbours and don't know what it's like. Also your Queen is about to die.
Im ready for the ruskies. Bring it on.
NATO wants to be a perma-superpower that governs the world. Ivans and Chinks are currently in the way of total and complete globalist rule. Thus, Russia is getting shit on through total trade war, and Chinks are skirting by by intentionally treating 90% of their country like a 3rd worlder indentured slave work force and manipulating currencies. Russia is going to inevitably collapse again, and China will pick up the slack until the west finally trade-wars them into the dirt when they stop being economically convenient for the west.
/this
>We'll just use a few nukes!
This is beyond retarded, and has no strategic rationale of any kind. Stop getting your idea of war from video games. If you're at the point of 'total war' where nukes are even an option on the table, the only strategic path is full committal.
Which, ya know, is exactly why the cold war never went hot. No one would have been apprehensive if there was any hope of fighting actual battles and having an old-timey war where there was a chance of actual victory and survival.
Starting nuclear war over that seems like putting all your chips on red. Too much risk when they can just try again in 4 years.
>What exactly would they go to war over?
You guys are a sovereign country that prints its own currency and your military focus is on self-defense and remaining independent.
Globalists FUCKING HATE THAT.
neither does firebombing cities.
nobody is actually going to follow orders once people realize its a ww3 scenario
they have to soft kill the population with degeneracy, distractions, and corrupted food/water.
it just ain't happenin lad
The idea isn't to start a nuclear war. The idea was to stick with the trade war but the recent shift in politics in the west is starting to jeopardize not only the trade war, but globalism in general, so the people that originally made this strategy are becoming out of touch and doing irrational shit that no one on any side can really predict anymore.