Is the ultimate redpill realizing The South (Confederacy) should have won?

It seems the rest of the U.S. always shits on the south. Typically by the coastal states. We are often called bigots, rednecks, racist, and uneducated bible thumpers. Despite our high black populations we are not cucked like most of the country.

Although we are constantly shamed for being on the wrong side of history, we did not become cucks following the Civil War like Germany did following WWII. In politics/history we are constantly berated as the racist who didn't want to end slavery. It very similar to the Nazis being called evil and racist for what they did to the Jews. Yet, we did not become cucks after the Civil War. Why is this?

Would we have been better off with the south winning or just remaining their own country?

Would we have eventually gotten rid of the niggers after no longer needing them?

Discuss.

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The South that was run by a Jew Benj and was full of mongrels? Thanks no

We had one jew ONE JEW

Southern slave owners were heavily Jewish.

No, they weren't. The Jews all stayed in the towns.

Don't forget that the high and mighty blue states like to call you guys leeches on the GDP.

But I like to remind them that the south would be just fine without the north's input.

Will the south rise again?

And thousands and thousands of niggers LARPing as Whites (1/16, 1/32 negroe "whites" are niggers too you know)

Checked and praised

We have a high black population. If we had won I think we would have eventually got rid of the niggers. We wouldn't need them once we became more industrialized. We also would have Texas and most of middle America.

I also wouldn't be surprised if we would of eventually annexed Mexico.

daily reminder the south (and kkk) were "democrats"
daily reminder lincoln (republican) said ".. if i could end this war without freeing a singe slave, i would do it .."
daily reminder when the US fought in ww2 they still had institutional racism for the whole country

>Would we have been better off with the south winning
winning what, americans today don't even know what the war was about

>or just remaining their own country
yes, balkanization is always good

>Would we have eventually gotten rid of the niggers after no longer needing them?
you would have always "needed" them for something, tho they would have been second class citizens

The niggers would of been gone eventually if we had won. The Confederation put strong emphasis on states rights. We wouldn't have had the North telling us what to do. I think the states would have eventually became more industrialized and we would of just sent the blacks back.

>t. mongol rapebaby

don't forget about the latinos
truly the south "did not become cucks after the Civil War"

The only reason we brought niggers here was to do farm work. There would be no use after further industrialization and creation of farm equipment.

The Civil War marks the end of the American experiment

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The latino's are not here because we want them here. Why do you think the south/middle america voted for Trump?

>tfw my ID is poorfag in a GQ mag

you also used them as servants

and you could have used them as we use gypsies today, to drive garbage trucks, do construction, etc

What a shitty general

Bulgaria speaks the truth. If the south would have won they would have become their own country. That would mean no powerful unified military after the war (there would be no Great White Fleet), greater tensions between the two countries, and we would be more open for invasion than ever.

Anyone who's read history knows what the Civil War was really about (not a lot of people do), which was about the South's economic output and the North needing to stay on top of them.

The south still used blacks for work, they just had to pay them.

Manual labor is always needed. That's why the population of the UK exploded during the industrial revolution.

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Not cucked? Dude, I've never seen so much coalburning as when I went to Florida and Georgia. And I live in Maryland, we have a ton of nigs here.

I swear the racist South is just an act, you guys are the biggest nigger lovers in the country.

the "republicans" the south votes for thought they can win the "conservative, christian, patriotic" latino diaspora vote

Of course that shit still happens, but we aren't the states that voted to bring in more refugees and third worlders.

We aren't cucked in the sense that Germany is when it come to the Nazi's. The Germans have literally bent over to be raped in the name of multiculturalism and are ashamed of their past.

Most southerners are not.

Genetically false and one drop rule is specifically designed for Sub Saharan mongrels.

Nigger

P.S. do you think you can compare admixture of a ethnic group that sucked Baghdad and cucked islam to irrelevance to negro apes? Both are subhumans, but still
>the niggers would gone
Mongrels wouldn't. You had shittons of octoroons and hexaderoons at the time of Civil War that LARPed as Whites
>dude just breed with negroes LMAO
Typical dixie scum

No racial pride, no hygiene, no honour. Abe should have killed every single Southerner

You guys are also making this into primarily a race issue. The south also had a more important emphasis on states rights than the north did. It was one of the whole reasons we broke away.

>implying that isn't what they're used for if they aren't useless wastes of taxes

What makes you think that later on we wouldn't have decided to massacre or get rid of the niggers? We already had the fucking KKK. It wasn't the southerners that decided to stop them.

You guys keep acting like they would of somehow been useful. Weren't the Jews still somewhat useful? Why did Hitler do what he did if he could of still used them?

>fag in ID
what did kek mean by this

Because you couldn't stop breeding with them and eventually accepting octorron and hexaderoon scum as whites

The only thing worst than niggers are the white guilt whites located in the coastal states.

At least in the south we aren't totally cucked into voting democrat even with our high black population.

Not just fag
>porfag

>Praise Kek XD
Fuck off with this autistic meme, it was never funny and it just makes fags like milo stick around

In alternate timeline the south wins and we later side with Germany in the World Wars.

Why does he look like a nigger?
So, instead of letting the beaners come to you you would come to the beaners?

would you have rather i called him a fucking leaf

They would have gone the way of the Indians.

Jews have money and power they need to brainwash. Black don't have money or power and they are dumb.

Just would of made it easier to get rid of the blacks desu there was even a "Return to Africa" movement post-civil war. Many blacks in the south actually supported it and they were pushed to do so by the KKK.

Even if we had won and not removed the blacks I still don't see how we would be in any worse of a situation than we are today. Middle America is being held back because of the coastal states.

Although we have higher black population it doesn't stop us from voting conservative. We don't have white guilt as much as the coast do. They're halting progress.

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lmao

>No racial pride, no hygiene, no honour. Abe should have killed every single Southerner
With that logic, you're a mere asiatic

the white guilt whites on the coastal states are worse than the niggers in the southern states. they're halting progress.

Dixiefag here. It isn't the ultimate redpill for anyone but Americans. Bluepill cucks only think the Confederacy was evil because "muh slavery" which not only was going to naturally fade, but wasn't even the main reason behind the Union fucking with us. Aside from the fact that Lincoln was and always will be a tyrant and the CSA was what the founding fathers had in mind, no sane man can see Union soldiers engaging in total war, killing, raping, and torturing Americans because they didn't bow down before a shit-tier president that acted against their interests.

While I'm not sure why we haven't been fully pozzed or how much different things would be if we won or never fought, I can answer the third question. Technology would ultimately replace slaves with due time, and whether we just deported the slaves or emancipated them ourselves depends on the relation between slaves and owners in general at that point, as some ties were quite strong and others were very strained.

>siding with Germany
As a cannon fodder like Japan, Italy and Romania.Aha. Precisely the reason Hitler despised you

Good answer. As I tried to argue in this thread, if the south had remained their own country and still had not got rid of the blacks, we would still have been better off today. The Confederacy put much more emphasis into states rights than the Union did. Much like what the founding fathers envisioned.

>who didn't want to end slavery.

well we didn't want to end it. at least in mississippi. we didn't even abolish slavery here until 2013 so technically it wasnt against state laws to own slaves. my family owned a decent amount of slaves (12 in 1860 according to census) and fought in the civil war to keep them. my dad still has some of the letters my grandfather wrote when they promoted him to captain in the csa

Damn nigga how old are you.

My grandparents were born in the 1910s

Slavery would had eventually ended. The question is if he had dealt with the slaves differently. It is no question that the south was the pro-segregation area of country. We would of probably had sent them back after becoming more industrialized.

technically we was my great great great grandfather or some shit, i didn't bother to count

Russia and the allied powers would have lost if Germany had another ally. The Confederacy would have been the tipping point to switch the outcome.

Hitler would have never done shit to us after the war.

No, bringing niggers into the country was the biggest mistake this nation has ever done and southerners are largely responsible for it. They were nigger lovers who had niggers breed like rabbits and went to a war and split the country in order to keep their niggers. Jefferson Davis even wanted to eventually annex Haiti and Cuba to secure even a bigger source of niggers, CSA would be Brazil 2.0 had it survived.

I'm not even mentioning how nigger slavery kept the wages of white yeomen and artisans down or how it prevented technological innovation which is the reason why even the antebellum South was utter 3rd world compared to the North. Or the fact a very large number of slave owners and slave traders were literal kikes.

So no Cletus, the REAL REDPILL is that the Confederacy, at its core, was anti white.

You complete ignoramus. Comparing the political parties between today and how they were is pretty ridiculous, just because Lincoln was a republican, that meant something completely different.

Also Lincoln was an incisions bastard. He only said that over quoted slave comment because he wanted to continue expanding the reach of the Federal government and eroding the constitution.

>done shit
Of course he would. He wouldn't allow you mongrels on European soil either. Feels good that Americans have more and more problems each year with getting European visas

the redpill is realizing that Lincoln was a terrible leader who ignored all the problems in the south and started a war between country men just to keep the north rich

aka there never should have been a war and the norths leaders were terrible to nearly lose to a bunch of poor as shit rednecks with horrible equipment

It would have been a good start, but if they intended on keeping slaves forever, the country would still be fucked. They should have had a plan for urbanization, industrialization, and repatriation.

If the south had won we would of continued severe segregation if we had not removed the blacks. The blacks would have probably migrated to north if we hadn't removed them by then.

More than likely the slaves would of moved to the north. The south would of continued strict segregation.

Hitler never wanted to take over the world.

You didn't want to remove the blacks, you wanted to keep them, that was the entire point of seceding. Lincoln was pretty friendly to the idea of repatriating them all to Africa or deporting them to central America, but then a certain southern retard had to kill him before he could do that.

Unfortunately.

Our economies relied upon them. Eventually we would of industrialized.

You're missing the entire point though. It isn't middle america that is stopping progress. It's the coastal states. The south despite having higher nigger population is still more redpilled than any of the coastal states. If the south had remained their own country we wouldn't be having to deal with the politics of the coastal states.

You guys are making this only about the niggers. At least in the south we don't have a high amount of fucking white guilt and are not totally cucked.

White guilt is harming us more than the niggers. It's impossible to do anything about them without some fags in California or New York crying "but muh slavery"

>implying America is only the south and the coasts
Not to mention most southern states are coastal.

Middle America was also mentioned.