Removing nuclear weapons from the equation...

Removing nuclear weapons from the equation, how well would the United States fare if every other country on Earth allied in war against them?

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That would require knowledge of every country's secret weapon programs.

>Removing nuclear weapons from the equation
The situation you are describing is Total War. There are no rules in Total War other than survival. Nukes would undoubtedly be part of such a war.

They couldn't defeat a bunch of rice farmers.... I give them 1hour.

Britain alone would smoke them.

Considering that we'd have air superiority and complete domination of the seas, most nations wouldn't even be able to touch us, while we could just focus on fucking up Canada and South America. After that it would probably become a stalemate though.

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The rest of the world still loses as we throw their own satellites down on them. We have plenty of mass destruction other than nukes.

since they have the greatest navy since Atlantis any chink poo in loo hoard would never even get there I would say the usa would win in an all out war . and win easily

Remember Nazi Germany?
Basically that.

Honestly, against EVERY other nation we'd obviously loose. Holding off Canada and Mexico would be easy enough, and most South American nations don't have the economy or industrial capacity to reach the US in force let alone fight and win. Initially the US would seem to do well, as we do have the largest Navy by a massive margin, as well as a massive amount of fighters and bombers. If the entire world was against us we'd likely toss out the Geneva convention day 1 and focus on survival at all cost. Instead of moving into and occupying all of Canada and Mexico, expect to see massive amounts of civilian casualties as the population is forcefully suppressed a la Rome. We simply couldn't afford to fight another gorilla war so close to home.

Our downfall would be when the rest of the ENTIRE planet finishes converting to wartime economies/production. The combined production of every other nation in earth would eventually overtake the US's military output and soon we'd find ourselves facing a naval force and air power that would dwarf our own. The armies of the world would then have to fight a gurilla war against a nation of 300,000,000 in which there are more guns than people. But still, they would win.

Also OP said nothing about chemical/biological weapons. If the entirety of the planet declared war against the US and the war begins to go south for us, expect to see super-aids-black-Ebola-swine-typhoid-pox seep the globe as we release some nasty biological weapons over massive portions of the globe via ICBM.

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The US would control the seas.
That plus shutting down the flow of oil and the fortress America aspect the world doesn't stand a chance.

Stalemate and the end of mankind. Bio weapons and hydrogen bombs are still in play retard.

This.

USN and USAF keep everyone away while we steamroll Canada and Mexico. After securing North America we dig in and defend the continent from any incursions while the USN goes ape shit sinking anything that floats effectively shutting down world trade and collapsing the world economy.

Defending the US could be (barely) possible if the rest of the Americas weren't involved, given America's Geographical distance from the rest of the world and the huge size of the US Navy and Air Force, but they have to defend their own borders too, and while Canada and the Latin American countries are no match for the US Armed Forces, defending every single boundry of American Land at once is impossible.

Dam. I want this time line. Sounds super comfy :,)

Canada would beat the US, again. Americans are just not good at fighting or athletics.

Our only hope long term would be to attempt to take an early offensive and cripple heavy industry in countries that could easily be converted to wartime production

If it's a fight to the death, we'd probably still lose

If it's "Fight until peace is obtained", we might stand a chance if we do this to Russia, China and Europe, and then just terror bomb them until they sue for peace. Once those dominoes fall the rest should too

Me too amigo

Agreed.

Lol

exactly. while the US rules the waves, nobody can project power to it, while power can be projected elsewhere with impunity.

Agreed. It's amazing a country whose army seems to be staffed by 80 IQ niggers and hispanics can do anything at all? I'm surprised more of them didn't die in Vietnam / Iraq / Afghanistan. Worst military record ever...

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Well, on the account that the US has the most advanced technology in the world, with known and unknown operations. And the fact that 160Million Americans own a firearm. I think it's safe to say that the United States would obliterate everyone.

There is no country on earth that is better than the United States in conventional and unconventional warfare.

In a world with no nuclear weapons, the United States would be victorious against everyone else. Our technology is just vastly superior to any nation.

I saw something a few months the ago talking about how the US military maintains a 20-25 year headstart among all other nations when it comes to Military tech.

It would be a slaughter.

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That is why we wouldn't defend it. We would attack. Canada and Mexico would be cut off from the rest of the world and facing a more numerous and better armed opponent. They would fall quickly.

Once all standing armies on the continent have been defeated defense becomes much easier. Land operations after that would be mopping up operations and minor campaigns to take strategic locations in the Arctic and Carribean.

Well the US is probably the hardest country on the planet to siege, so even with the rest of the world it would take possibly decades to whittle them down. They have so much land to self sustain they could easily last as long as their defences hold out.

Going on the offensive would probably be the worst decision, as no matter their military strength there's simply no possible way they could play aggressive against us, China, Russia, Korea, Japan, Canada, Australia and Europe alone and at the same time. They'd lose within months while fighting an aggressive war against those numbers.

Just texas alone could conquer the whole rest of the world in five minutes.
With the entire united states, it would be even faster.

Same here

> Canada
> Japan
> Korea

Lol? Gtfo you retard.

The US would annihilate NATO within a month. Probably even less time.

China would be wiped out with a biological weapon due to their disgusting, overcrowded nation. And Russia is useless so we wouldn't need to invade.

The US vs the world would be easier than most would think. And that's because only a handful of militaries are actually capable.

Without the US footing the bill for those NATO countries, Europe would collapse and be defeated almost instantly.

I dunno m8 Total War is a pretty exciting concept. Total War is the true red pill I think lol

If the US were willing to fight dirty we could cause civilizational collapse in every opposed country before they could get their production transferred to military goods. Bomb all the power plants, dams, and government buildings in a nation. Game over, you just won.

The world would rock em. Look at Germany in ww2. Pound for pound they rocked it but outnumbered/sanctions/etc.

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They couldnt even beat Iraq.

Germany is also a tiny nation with a fraction of the population and wealth that the US has.

Fucking dumbass Canadian.

God I fucking hate you people.

The only weakness in the US military is political will. That has stood between military professionalism and victory for 70 years now.

Technically, strategically and tactically, it's no contest. Left to the professionals, the combined US military, with or without nuclear weapons, could take China and Russia combined.

But that's a fantasy; it could never happen that the US military could operate free from political meddling and incompetence.

Kind of weird question considering every large bomber and most submarines are designed nuclear capable more than conventional. US has a massive land advantage as long as the US can keep a Naval and Air advantage, they have no worries of an invasion.

You see, this is wrong.
We couldn't stabilize Iraq, we fought Iraq with the gloves on. Do you really think we couldn't have flattened Iraq if we wanted?

Then how did this happen?

Looks like a picture of the Iraqi leader under the heel of a Marine.

Im not saying that, bud. I'm saying Germany kicked the asses of Europe bigly. It was asked US vs the world. Not Germany Vs. Russia, UK and France. They lost because they were out numbered and supplies were cut off.

Are you able to follow this? Would you like me to draw you a picture?

>killing the leader means you win
k. And then what'd you do?

Ever heard of a thought experiment libcuck?

nice try mr trudaeu

Pretty sure our airforce and navy could handle shit alone, and if someone did manage to invade, "every blade of grass".

>Missiles, what are they?
The argies caused issues with the bongs using exorcet missiles. Just think what the PLA, Russia, Japan whatever could inflict.

whew lad you lost 2 times

Israel makes (((them))) destroy themselves

No matter how strong murica is, they belong to (((them))) and can't do shit against it

>every other country on Earth allied in war against
Russia with some EU/US support is not the whole world together.

there'd be a gun between every blade of grass

sorry your nation got cucked and let muslims run their capital cities, block their internet and ban their guns

Probably quite well.

Being surrounded by 2 oceans is a huge asset. No country has the projection capabilities to realistically invade mainland USA, and even if they did an armed and unruly civilian population spread over huge swats of land is a nightmare for military operations. Hell, even the shape of the country is favorable to the defenders: large, bulky, scarcely populated, with lots of strategic depth.

The main concerns for the USA would be
>secure whatever resource they lack in their homeland
>gain control of the Panama canal
>"muh diversity" siding with the enemy[pic related]

If I had to bet muh shekels on it, I'd be against the USA: undefeated in battle, but torn apart by racial diversity at home which would lead to balkanization. Sorry America, you don't get to become a minority in your own country and then have the "new americans" fight for you. You brought this on yourself when you gave niggers equal status.

>a fuckin leaf making commentary on other nation's military infrastructure

thanks for the laughs pol

We'd still have air and sea superiority. We have non-nukes that are more effective for bombing, anyway.

Fight the whole world...We'd probably be able to keep everyone off our borders, in a stalemate. We'd lose Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. But we'd rule our waters, and bomb the snot out of anyone or anything coming near our borders. We can continue to manufacture for quite a while, with no imports, and we'd be able to drill for oil and grow food.

Oceans are a serious problem for supply lines in war, the rest of the globe would have to deal with the Atlantic and Pacific. That's why we've never been seriously challenged on our own borders.

If things were so bad all of Europe and Asia are gone, we could use our bombers to wipe out communications in those regions with EMPs and hamper their ability to do more than survive themselves.

BTW, Canada and Mexico? Ours now, in this scenario. Step foot on North America - die. Mine the Panama canal, disrupt shipping globally, sink any cargo ships that go near it. Good luck going down around South America.

Then, we sit back and watch the rest of the world collapse into regional turf wars over food and resources, and economies collapse without US markets, banks and investments - oh, and all that "aid" money? Gone. Good luck getting loans from Putin.

We'd survive. We'd be a much different country, the population would be a lot lower, but everyone would be working, growing things, mining things, making things, vbeing self-sufficient, while the armed forced keep the borders closed, and any planes trying to get past explode like fireworks offshore.

It would depend on how many drones we could build and how quickly.

No one is discussing EMPs. We could seriously hamper the other nations ability to communicate with eachother, and thus their ability to fight together effectively.

Then we just eliminate them one by one, biggest first.

>implying any force stands a chance against God's country and the Manifest Destiny that goes with it

We would EMP them at the same time or before.

yeah u faggots would smoke are cocks if u had the chance.

To unite every other nation's army under one flag is a logistic nightmare that would take maaany years to get to actually work (for obvious reasons), even if the project started in peace time. So at first sight I say the USA would find it's way.
But war is not just technology or firepower. It's a messy unpredictable human conflict where anything can happen. Also I don't think we know what the dormant cells/domestic terrorists/etc. are capable of doing from the inside once havoc is broken.

Right now, nobody could touch the US. It's the most militarized country on the planet except for Israel, maybe.

If the rest of the world had some time to gear up for war, that's another story.

If forces invaded from the west, they'd get stopped by the Rocky Mountains. Mountains suck for armies.

It's a moot point, anyway, if we withdrew all materiel from the world, and brought it home, that's a LOT of planes and tanks - we could hit any spot on the border in hours. Large bases already exist. With carriers, we can bomb any inch of coast within days - and nothing would get past our carriers and subs.

They'd have to get over the ocean, first, or build up armies in South America, and hope they can get them past Panama. It'd be a kill box at the canal.

What most people don't get, is our military is fucking GOOD. The mistakes and flaws from Vietnam don't exist anymore. The only thing that holds our forces from flattening countries is political will and agenda. We could have depopulated Afghanistan if we'd had the will to do so. Our forces are accurate, and deadly. Look at how we rolled over Iraq, twice. It was brutal - and would have been even worse, if Bush Sr. had allowed them to continue into Bahgdad. Bush Jr. DID go in, and we demolished the place.

Throw in drone tech now, and weapons of mass destruction, we could kill anything stepping foot on North America, efficiently and quickly. Remove remorse, we own North America forever.

If the shit were ever to hit the fan and it was US vs (((The World))), we would bring out all of our x-files super technology. We would fry entire cities with UFO's shooting plasma beams.

The only way the world could unite against the US is either through Islamic takeover (not likely - they havent tangled with China, for good reason), or a communist takeover, jointly run by the Russians and Chinese.

But, same outcome - we'd own North America. We could survive with just that, just fine.

>burgers
How is that in any way, shape, or form related to what I said?

Canada has a lower population than the whole of California
We wouldn't really have trouble on that front

No single nation can ever stand up to the entire world fighting against them. Remember it's not just military forces fighting each other that's a factor, but trade, raw materials, etc. If the US were to fight the entire rest of the world, we'd have energy, fuel, food, and medicine shortages, there'd be rations for civilians and the situation would be worse and worse.

No nation no matter how much larger their military could survive such a conflict.

the only thing we don't have domestically is exactly 1 rare earth. we produce enough food to feed the world, and we pay farmers to not produce a lot

We already killed the British empire which was unthinkable at the time we can do anything

You do know that we make most of that, and we'd have even more if we weren't selling it to other countries, right?

Most of the cost of WWII was shipping the shit across the Atlantic. Our industries have also expanded just a little since then, and we know where more raw materials are located, even though we're currently barred from mining or exploiting them because of liberal politics.

It would suck for a while, but once we got our own infrastructure settled, we'd be doing just fine.

With there being over 500 MILLION guns in our country, how do you think we would fare?

>America's largest armor base is right near the Mexican border
>Mexican Army is literally nothing fighting drug cartels
>Canada

Really ain't that hard, desu

Bad. As the country with most immigrants the problem wouldnt beagainst other nationsbut against itself. Then no cohesion then USA loses the war. How will the goverment control itsowncitizens?

I don't think his point is that Mexico or Canada would go to war with America, more so the fact that if you needed to establish a foothold on the western continent, it would be easier to invade America's weak neighbors first rather than try to establish your first foothold on American soil.

Rather get beat by chinks with guns than shitskins with islam

You're neglecting something.

See, we've never had a total war actually take place on our soil since modern warfare became a thing, all our infrastructure and farmland has been insulated from the devastation that was taking place in Europe and the Pacific. EVEN THEN, we had food and gas rationing

If we were to have a total war against the rest of the world, our oil refineries would get strategically bombed, factories that process and package food too, farmland would get napalmed (since we're forbidding nuclear weapons)

Remember we're talking the entire rest of the world here not just a war against Russia or China or even both. We'd have no allies, no trading partners and our intrastructure would be targeted and the battles would be taking place on our soil.

We've done well in world wars because the battles are taking place thousands of miles away from us.

Mind you actual ground invasion would be impossible. Armed populace would result in bloody insurgency for decades. But they could collapse our government and military and force the US government to surrender, and remove us from being a superpower.

Canada alone would fucking rape them and burn the whitehouse just like we did 200 years ago. there's a reason those stupid fucking yanked never dared fucking with us again

>What is AEGIS

It's kind of ironic that America was the first to discover that you can't fight guerilla insurgencies and has a long history of losing to guerillas but they themselves are literally the only absolutely unconquerable country because of guerilla tactics.

you're neglecting something. there wouldn't be an enemy ship or plane within 500 miles of north america. there'd be no napalmed fields, bombed refineries, etc

worlds largest and second largest airforces, etc

the british burned the white house
you burn cock.

go suck Ahmed's dirty brown cock you fucking cuck

Sweet

>a leaf vs a cuck
my sides

The US has secret weapons not known to any nation; if the B-2 was created in the 1970s, imagine the technology today. Most the modern technologies that make GPS, cell phones, fiber optics etc., were all created by the US government for military applications.

The US is the world's police for a reason. Every nation left it up to us after world war 2, that's how we became the only superpower...

how the hell they get here? we sink them as they come across ocean, thats a long haul and the would need massive amounts of weapons and people to take usa

You think foreign planes are getting past our planes, our pilots, our radar, and our missles and anti-aircraft batteries?

Dude. C'mon. We have air superiority over everyone, especially on our own turf. Not a single plane or missile would make it past the borders.

Do you even know what we have, in that regard, what we currently have deployed? If you did, you wouldn't say that.

It depends on the kind of war. A defensive war on American soil would be devastating. Our infrastructure is held together by duct tape and hope. But like said, we would form an armed militia that would be nearly impossible to dig out.

We might still win... but it would be a very long and very bloody war spanning decades. That would only end because the occupying governments couldn't deal with American terrorists.

God you're retarded. How do you classify a win in a war then. There was objectives, we conquered the objectives with ease. Then left a few thousand bois over there to collect oil. We anex the shit out of their resources and they can't do anything about it. We won, faggot.

The stealth bomber is 70's technology.

Think about that.

And - nobody can counter the stealth. They come close, but we could hit anywhere in Europe or Asia with EMPs with a stealth, and knock out their communications, with ease.

We own the skies.

Yeah but could we handle the ENTIRE world on us at the same time? We have the largest air force, sure. But I doubt we can defend our airspace perfectly, forever. We'd be running out of fuel since we'd have no trade.

no nukes?

we have the largest air force in the world.
the second largest air force is our own navy.
the largest navy is our navy. we have carriers to project force anywhere. not to mention the marines and army.

on top of that there are about 88 guns for every citizen of the US, so the civilian population makes a massive army as well, and that includes trained veterans, pilots, gunners, mechanics, etc. in fact if all the civilians mounted up they could take down our own army. but that isn't the case here.

but really, a few air strikes on opposing military bases and important infrastructure would cripple other nations before shooting even began.

we can steamroll the spics, and the leaves are literally no problem at all.

it's an army consisting of proud faggots, they would be too afraid even with nuclear weapons at their disposal.

All that would do is make the American empire spread across the world that much quicker

If my grandfather had three balls he would be a flipper.

It would be the USA on defense since attacking would be absurd. Attack what?

So the entire military would be at home.

It would be a fucking bloodbath.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be a ton of dead Americans but I bet for every American there would be 50 dead enemies.

I mean our land is just really fucking hard to invade. Canada and Mexico would fall immediately and then it's just a matter of blowing up enemy ships and airplanes. Which wouldn't be very difficult.

>It would be a slaughter.

>tfw ywn live to see this

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