Why did Australia, New Zealand and South Africa not become as successful as the USA?
>all of them were former british colonies >all culturally Anglo-Saxon >all rich in natural resources >all founded on entrepreneurial spirit and Protestant work ethic >nice weather and plenty of arable land
What went wrong? why did Australia, NZ and South Africa not become economic superpowers like the USA?
Jaxson Stewart
Wouldn't you like to know
Andrew Sanders
No slavery. the USA was built on the backs of African American slaves
Jacob Ward
Hi there
Jose Reyes
You're country is like 200 years older than us you dumb cunt.
Austin Hill
forgot a few OP.
>a fucking leaf
Grayson Stewart
slavery was irrelevant. It was already net loss stuff by the civil war.
Other colonies were far younger than the USA. Also new crops meant monopolies for commodities. No bloated expensive legacies from corrupt royalty There's a tonne of reasons.
William Rogers
US was an independent nation, with democracy implemented, before those others were even British colonies. Plus the US had the resources of a vast, rich, and undeveloped continent, and the intelligent and resourceful waves of European immigrants from Germany, Italy, France, Scandinavian countries, etc., who came basically nonstop and unabated to our shores for a century
Zachary Nguyen
The continental slice, climate varying to various extremes, an industrial ruling class that out-gunned the brits, less oversight on industrial development and trade, superior planning at an early stage.
Nice try, royal subject.
Evan Martin
They stayed under British rule, while USA destroyed Muhammed for their independence.
Matthew Reyes
Because the U.S.has a few advantages. Mammoth resources, being an immigrant country (I bet you're flabbergasted but it's true) and manufacturing was geographically isolated from being destroyed during ww2 and was in a very strong position at the end to begin selling what the destroyed world needed. Oh and a ton of technological innovation during our brief history.
Kayden Rivera
>implying those other countries never had slaves hahahahaha
Logan Long
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The population of USA is a lot larger than us, since you broke away from the crown you got heaps of immigrants from all around Europe, boosting your population considerably, while NZ only got British immigrants If NZ had a large landmass and was a Republic we would be similar in power to USA For our size NZ is as great as USA, our hdi, gdp per capita, etc is very similar to yours
Kevin Baker
>south africa >british colony It was half and half with the dutch at best
Anthony Anderson
Day of the rake when?
Lincoln Adams
They are missing FREEDOM
Dylan Barnes
Manifest destiny, bitches.
Should never have let us get California. There was a reason everyone was willing to stab one another in the back for the territory.
Nolan Kelly
Get a load of this fern.
Ryder Hernandez
>If NZ had a large landmass and was a Republic we would be similar in power to USA >For our size NZ is as great as USA, our hdi, gdp per capita, etc is very similar to yours
So you're getting your own air force when?
Easton Lee
adding on to that Australia has the size, but unlike the colorado basin, which can be irrigated, the outback lacks a major river and is basically uselss for agriculture. (not that the colorado basin has heaps of people in it)
Joseph Sanchez
Oh just fuck off. It was and still is the white mans paradise Leaf. Now just roll over and go back under you leaf blanket in your momma's basement
Benjamin Butler
The Cape Colony, Natal, Orange Free State, and the Transvaal were all started by the Dutch but the British took over everything.
Many of the American colonies were Dutch too before the British took over (New York, New Jersey, etc.)
Daniel Martinez
The distance from Europe. And the fact that the interior of our continent is an uninhabitable wasteland. If you removed Middle America, replaced it with a giant fucking desert, and made the voyage across the Atlantic four times longer we would be twins cunt.
Owen Flores
actually the Dutch were pretty high tier colonisers.
The drainage projects they did through Indonesia are a serious marvel of engineering.
Jaxson Gonzalez
The key is when you fucked off the British. They drag everything down to their level.
Jayden Smith
you sure it doesn't have anything to do with Aussies being descendants of convicts and inbreds?
Nathan Rogers
Yeah but we wouldn't have raging gangs of crack niggers everywhere.
Brody Cook
The number of decendents of convict inbreds is a far smaller % than your population of decendents of puritan inbreds.
Dylan Murphy
Because they are all a bunch of cucks compared to us.
Jeremiah Hall
>you sure it doesn't have anything to do with Aussies being descendants of convicts and inbreds?
We started as these and because successful and educated
You started as successful and educated and became convicts and inbreds.
Usa = Failing upward
Evan Hill
Liberal patent laws and a fuck ton of natural resources
Kevin Reed
What is the PetroDollar for $500, Alex?
Lincoln Lopez
New Zealand is barely populated and remote as fuck. Australia's also remote, but still got a lot of resources, but still nowhere the size of the US in population.
South Africa obviously has the demographics backwards, if anything it's a good indicator of what the US would have been like if the natives weren't wiped out by disease so quickly and thoroughly.
Elijah Hughes
Georgia was a penal colony once too, so they can say the same fucking thing about us.
Bentley Cook
Nice military, cuck.
Grayson Perry
A better question is why all the grey territories in this map chose to be traitorous cunts and didn't join the union?
Oliver Russell
australia/NZ >criminals all other colonies >shitskins /thread
Christopher Robinson
>white mans paradise >56%
Dylan Sullivan
Have you honestly looked at the history of slavery in the United States?
I'd call you a fucking leaf, but SJWs are as equally retarded about a complete lack of understanding of history here so it's a moot point.
Nicholas Russell
South Africa was on its way to being great but then they got rid of the apartheid. Big mistake. Also way too many nogs.
Brody Bell
continent preseeded by Spaniards, including monetary system and trade routes research birth of dollar
Hudson Harris
did they have a choice? everyone was putting harsh sanctions on them with the exception of israel
Liam Evans
And it's going to be under 50% be the end of the year lmao.
Jose Gomez
HAHAHAHA Its like a skidmark on a toilet bowl that just keeps getting bigger
Jace Martinez
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Parker Jenkins
Isn't it obvious? All the natives were removed, the wildlife wasn't nightmarishly dangerous, and the colonists He a higher birthrate. >ANZ is nearly there. Their problems lie with the emus and spiders. >South Africa was doomed from the start because the natives were always the majority. >India would've been fine if the Brits didn't force the Hindus and Muslims to bite cow/pig fat lubricated cartridges in their army. >Canada was easy because the French were a bunch of fur trapping pussies that gave up halfway through comquering.
That's really it. Brits would still be the top dogs if they had a Hardcore Manifest Destiny period.
Ayden Taylor
Population, and gradual population increase from European immigrants.
Logan Scott
what are those shorts called?
Jordan Hall
Climate, geography, isolation and date of colonization.
Canada is cold and was very selective about accepting migrants.
Australia and New Zealand weren't getting their colonization in full swing until well after the American Revolution and they are fucking far away from the UK.
The United States on the other hand inhabits a pretty good position geographically for settlement... The whole land area can be used by people, there's no permafrost, the deserts are manageable, etc... And it was colonized early enough to build up a fair sized population, too.
All of the Anglosphere are a success. We are all first world countries with comfy living standards and it's a testament to what our people can accomplish.
Elijah Gray
why did European immigrants prefer going to the USA in such vast numbers and barely any came to AUS, NZ, and SA?
Camden Peterson
Why did America's former colony become a shithole?
Flag related
Daniel Kelly
>60% whites >thinks those numbers aren´t polished >thinks it is impossible to reach 50%
Stay cucked, burger.
Noah James
Polders cuunnnnnnt
Mason Scott
>german >german women love brown cock >calling others cucks
kek
Joshua Lopez
Didn't Marcos stealing a shit ton of money for years have a lot to do with it?
Eli Foster
>work US had a ton of shit going on and lots of accessible jobs, don forget the government wouldn't hand you a meal if you couldn't eat back in the day, they just let you starve. Not to mention an abundance of land that if you worked hard enough, you could buy and own.
Brandon Fisher
t. Rabbi Jamal Ayoub Rodriguez
Thomas Ramirez
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Luis Ross
I was joking fyi.
Yeah, when America granted independence, the Philippines was a first world country. Marcos and the succeding generations of politician kept stealing money.
Thomas Richardson
Have you looked at the size of those populations? All of those countries are massive successes considering their geography.
Juan Murphy
We brits peaked early.
Gabriel Baker
With 11 to 30 million illegal immigrants in your country right now, you are not one to talk, Mr. Sallasië.
Christopher Murphy
I get that but the numbers for countries like South Africa were so ridiculously small. There's only like 5 million white South Africans compared to the 200-something white Americans.
South Africa had tons of jobs available too like working in the gold mines. Even though SA is smaller, it still has more of certain natural resources than what America has in the entirety of the US territory.
Leo Johnson
the USA has an order of magnitude more fertile land than any of those other places, more resources (oil) and a few hundred years more development.
really not that complicated.
Lucas Baker
The Japs and not enough time under imperial rule. Spain was a shit colonial ruler and you guys simply weren't ruled by us long enough.
That and it's much harder to bring native populations up to standard than to just kill the natives and colonize the land.
Brandon Fisher
I know they didn't really have a choice, which is sad. My friend from South Africa is still pissed that they got rid of the apartheid. Everyone in class was discussing the oppression of blacks, people start talking shit abut her country. She gets angry and blurts out that blacks are violent retards that needed the apartheid to be keep them under control. Classmates reactions were priceless.
Carter Anderson
The times are a-changin'.
Tyler Lee
this.
>a country built by sociopaths for sociopaths is good at dominating the world by whatever mans necessary, gee what a far fetched idea durrr I'm retarded
Aiden Nelson
didn't read it properly before sending. Ignore poor english.
Jack Rogers
this
Jose Johnson
>should never have let us get Mexico >implying we still have it
Gabriel Howard
Nah, we we're 2nd richest in Asia next to Japan when America left. Marcos and the later government kept fucking the place up.
Adam Foster
what do your classmates think of the fact that south africa is now in the top 5 for rape, corruption, robbery and murder?
some post-apartheid paradise eh
Aaron Collins
hahaha
i hope canadians get tons of mexican immigrants. they're always talking shit about the USA being racist for not wanting everyone to just pour in
Lucas Jackson
Because they didn't rebel, they stayed monarchcucks.
Nolan Powell
well, MURRICA is about to die of natural causes soon since it's approaching the end of all average empire life spam. You should be happy that you got trump instead of shillary because that bitch would end MURRICA by 2020 with another round of mass BAILOUTS. At least trump is willing to spend all your money on the roads that you will be using for your 2nd civil war. The trigger point is going to be 23 trillion in debt, meaning just 3 more trillion since the national debt is already at 19.9 trillion. #calexit
Liam Evans
are you seriously asking why 30 million people vs 300 million people arent as successfull? lmao
Caleb Ward
2 WALLS!
Camden Parker
Geography, resources, time/timing.
Dominic Anderson
the obvious question is why did they not attract more immigration and a higher birthrate
Lucas Parker
South Africa has too many blacks
Australia and New Zealand are pretty successful, but they are limited by the fact they are basically empty with no resources.
Jayden Rodriguez
>pic extremely related
Asher Allen
Wrong.
Jack Howard
>convicts >sheepshaggers >Niggers NEXT
Jonathan Nelson
you guys took in all manner of trash to fuel your economy and now you have to deal with almost white minority. not really a solid game plan.
meanwhile australia only let whites in until quite recently
Oliver Nguyen
You have a larger population, we have 24 million you have 310 million
Jack Ramirez
Still doesn't explain this:
Per capita GDP
United States 56,116 Australia 45,501 New Zealand 36,982 South Africa 13,209
Jose Lewis
Away and fuck a sheep you fucking Maorinigger
William Carter
>successful as the USA
-no (((success))) aside from the default that the vacuum it filled post-WW2 yielded -scores of failed wars -unemployment up the yin-yang since the 70's -education at Third World levels -every burger is obese, with shart oozing down their calloused thighs -nation in a literal civil war stasis -a cucked zionist military vassal -1% own everything, while 99% are either working poor or niggers -so desperate that they've elected a certifiable autist to finish the immolation -the shortest (((empire))) in history is about implode...
>success
Grayson Cox
Australia has basically no history and no culture.
It means there's no national spirit, no national character, there's nothing to base any identity on except piss poor weak sauce examples like muh Eureka Stockade or muh Ned Kelly.
The ugly truth is that Australians have never had a real crisis in their entire history. Every war they were ever involved in were ones they went looking to fight in. No civil wars, because Australians are too lazy and idle to ever really get fired up about anything at all.
They have literally nothing to complain about, so there is nothing to push them to make things in Australia even better than they are. They have no motivation to become a great country beause they think sun + beaches + barbeques = a unique national identity.
And they are so far from the rest of the world that they don't realise that every fucking country with a coastline has sun + beaches + barbeques PLUS a unique national spirit and identity. Except Australia, and probably New Zealand which has even fewer claims to greatness than Australia.
Note: am Australian in Russia, hence flag.
Charles Sanders
>rajesh South Africa was the Dutch
Cooper Jones
Yep pizda, we're pretty fuckin awesome
Camden White
New Zealand and slaves? What the fuck?
Justin Robinson
No Australia is shithouse, that's why I left and moved to a real country.
Julian Edwards
I met a girl from New Zealand and she wouldn't shut up about how she loves big Maori cock.
From what I gathered, New Zealand was full of British colonists watching their women get fucked hard by huge Maori cocks.
So I guess New Zealand failed because it was really New Cuckland. That's what the girl from New Zealand told me. I'm just the messenger.
Grayson Sanders
i don't really understand this either... aren't there something like 150 million people in the US living under the poverty line?
maybe skewed by a the few extremely high wages, but it still doesn't seem like enough.
Matthew Collins
hows that going for u (lmao)
Carter King
yea but i imagine the beaches on australia or south africa are a little nicer than the beaches on the fronzen tundra of fucking russia
Eli Reed
The Brits who settled in New Zealand, armed with the cutting edge weapon tech of the day, got fucked up by Maoris armed with rocks and pointed sticks.
Australians got the criminal genes, but NZ got the weak manlet genes.
Easton Watson
You mean British colonies like Hong Kong, Singapore, and China? Most of their colonies were pretty successful, especially if the natives adopted the island jew cancer capitalism philosophy.
It's obvious why the colonies that are ethnically Anglo had different outcomes.
Australia was mostly colonized by criminals/debtors and it was in a more remote location till modern transit tech came around.