I got into an argument with my Dad last night about whether or not homosexuality has been accepted by any culture...

I got into an argument with my Dad last night about whether or not homosexuality has been accepted by any culture throughout human history.
He says only Christian cultures have accepted them. Is that true Sup Forums?

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All societies accept it before their fall.

yes it is, dosent mean faggotry is a good thing or that christianity is degenerate though

No. Greeks.

"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society" - Rene Descartes

Greeks accepted it and they weren't Christian.

He argued that the Greeks accepted gay sex between master and slave, not relationships though.

Same goes for race mixing

Accept is a difficult word to define for this sort of deal.

For the majority of human history homosexuality has been a rather side thing. I.e., occasionally men did faggoty stuff. The new thing is the idea of a person devoting a significant amount of time or identity to the idea that they stick their dick in weird places or that they exclusively stick their dicks in weird places.

Putting a penis into a younger man's bottom was considered p patrician in the Ancient times. Greeks were blissful degenerates too. Christianity, at least proper Christianity that hasn't degraded into "DONT ABANDON US WE SUCC UR DIK", was/is strictly against sodomy.

That's what ithe came across to me as. It wasn't really encouraged but no one gave a shit.

That isn't true though.

How?

Well, it's more as "Who would give a shit?" it would literally be a conversation like

>lol i herd u got drunk and fucked a boy
>mind ur own business faggot or ill fuck u

Like there is nothing really here to benefit from. People were typically defined by other things, and the world wasn't connected enough to have a strong reputation.

If it really became such a problem, your village would just tell you to go fuck boys in another village and they'd have no idea who the fuck you are.

That's not quite true either. Definitions on what is sodomy or punishable vary greatly by period.

Look up Greek pederasty and modern homosexuality.
Also, the samurai had same sex relationships.

Fuck you op, as soon as I looked at your fag I spat my tea on the floor

I'm sending you and your gay dad the bill, cunt

That's still gay, and Greeks had homosexual relationships between soldiers (see: Sacred Band of Thebes) which were completely accepted, but those men also had wives and children when they went home. In other words, functioning homosexuals.

Calm down Muhammad. Prayer mats aren't that expensive.

But they weren't exclusively homosexual. If a Greek told his family that he was letting his family blood line die out because he can't keep his dick out of rectums, he would probably be stoned.

Likewise with Japanese homosexuality, if you were actually a samurai to let your bloodline die out because you had a sexual preference was ridiculous. When it came to high society, you had catamites, but no one accepted a catamite as they would a wife.

>argument with my Dad about being gay

native americans accepted homosexuality and trannies too

He got very mad. Makes me think he's hiding something....

They all look the same. Doesn't count.

Your dad is somewhat ignorant of world history user

>catamite
It's a power - control thing and probably exists in all expanding cultures at some point. The catamite grows to want his own catamite and on it goes. As a warrior culture grows the powers that be typically don't want them to have normal loving relationships with the female as it interferes with the job at hand, invading foreign cultures and sodomizing their boys.

Yes, that's true, I remember hearing that in ancient Greek society a pederast over 30 years old was considered an oddball.
In Japan it was common to have a wife and several concubines, or geishas, and geishas were originally men.

gatesofvienna.net/2013/02/homosexuality-in-iraq-and-saudi-arabia/

hmmm

Sounds like your dad is a faggot if he's that worried about gays throughout history.

Doesn't matter. You've been outed by your ID. Fag.

Doesn't mean after. You've been outed by your ID. Fag.

only one who gets it

tolerating something means giving up on you and your people

what's going on here?

seems like hillary moved her bots to cucknada

BEKFAST

>functioning homosexuals
LOL, like a functioning alcoholic.
I can just imagine some surgeon shaking his head as one of colleagues leaves a closet with jizz stains all over him. He may be a shameless cum guzzler but goddammit he's the best gastrointestinal surgeon we have.

Believe it or not in Indian vedas, homosexuals were viewed as people with divine perceptions. Then we had the whole Muslim invasion period.

Nothings going on here. Delet this.

The Christian Byzantines were generally cool with it. Anal sex was still a severe crime, but that was true whether it was man on woman or man on man.

Anything involving poo is considered holy in India.

KEK

>ID literally says FAG

Come the fuck on now

The Turks were notorious poo pushers. Look up their eunuchs.

>FAG

FUCK YOU BURGER GET GENOCIDED BY THOSE MEXICANS REEEE.
I mean hehe yeah we do have street shitters

The ancient Persians favored more feminine men for leadership, due to their sympathy. Alexander the Great, Philip of Macedon, and the Sacred Band of Thebes were a bunch of faggots that changed the world.

There is literally nothing wrong with manly love.

They should move in and then out so the circumference will shrink and expand which allow them to have all the gay sex

Christian - a little Christ, Christ follower
Christ taught to be celibate or married and faithful to one spouse of the opposite sex

Any culture that accepts homos is not a Christian culture by way of comparison to the Bible

I'm seriously doubting these graphs.

you and your dad should read some history books famalam

>Stage one: denial
The source is on the image

That's ingenious pajeet.
Ugh weird it was the same for some native tribes in South America.

America has accepted them and it was founded as and still is a secular country

You could perhaps argue that those "Christian" cultures that accepted it perhaps aren't really Christian cultures. It was only accepted after secularism got a good hold on modern society. The Catholic and Protestant Churches had already lost the power they originally had and it then didn't matter that the Church was telling people that it's a sin to be gay.
You could look up at what point it was actually allowed to have homosexual relations in the Western World. When did it stop being a crime? It's not that long ago, I think. The modern times had already started. Everything important for philosophy was already written. There was nuclear power, people watched TV, satellites were launched into space, and gay sex was still a crime. That might be interesting to talk about.

I don't really care desu. I just found them weird living in here.

fatality

They didn't. Greeks didn't have sexual orientation like us. The richest of them were in pedestry, but no one felt to be An homosexual. It wasn't an identity question, the concept itself didn't exist.

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