Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Smelly dumb commie scum

oh no le right wing man comes for me xD^^

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>Spain
>commie
1975 was a mistake

Hi comrade

Don't be jealous you can be communist too burger

This thread again, huh.
I give it about a 25% chance that you get enough angry nu-Sup Forums posters to dump anti-communism memes to expand that folder you've been building and about a 75% chance that it gets spammed with cuck porn and deleted.

Comrade that's not dialectical, talk about marx, lenin or communism in general.

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution

>that's not dialectical
Neither is communism

>to each according to their need
I need to fuck your mother.

How is it that you don't believe in private property?

There is personal property under communism, but no private property (means of production)

I need personal property capable of production.

>no private property
>no tyranny

choose one and only one

That's OK, you won't make profit from it though.

Was born in USSR ask your questions about communism

Sorry, my mom's already past menopause.

I'm a marxist, and I'm pretty disappointed the communist thread in Sup Forums has to be M-L.

But the USSR wasn't Communist?

In some parts of our live was real communism. Social politics election system were comministic in over was socialism.

Do you have any legitimate proof that you lived in the USSR?

What do you think about the communist party in Russia nowadays?

I'm going to give some of that production to a friend of mine, because he's such a nice guy he's going to give me something back that I'd really like.
Don't worry, I'll just use my cousin instead.

I think that they are not communists.
What kind of proof do you need?

General Franco here, Manuel, Just popped in to remind you that you are a raging faggot.

Tell me what's wrong with M-L comrade

Perhaps a document of some sort?

Something that stated citizenship, a message from the government, etc.

Something that you would have received within the USSR.

>I'm going to give some of that production to a friend of mine, because he's such a nice guy he's going to give me something back that I'd really like.

the true guiding principle of communism tbqh

That's very unfortunate, was it hijacked by the right wing? are they capitalist liberals like in USA? it needs to change. Maybe the creation of a new party.

goyi...err,workers of the world, unite!

Whatever Paquita la culona.

you're the same NEED spic who makes these threads every fucking day. Your life is literally worse than mine.

When is someone going to dox this subhuman piece of filth

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You know how stupid is to blame jewish agenda on someone who was against judaism agenda? Please don't try to misinform my comrades.

Why do you want my information? want to check my sexy ass?

So it's capitalism with a mask on.

Holodomor. You have no rebuttal. Nobody's interested in your mass starvation system. You need to seize the means of toilet paper production and ship the proceeds to your comrades in Venezuela before you have to ignore 200,000 deaths from dysentery caused by communism.

Probably wants to give you the opportunity to suck off your manletfu in hell.

>When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

name one time this has actually happened

Dont worry we have enough left ideas and groups
You may not believe me

Not yet, but technology such cybernetics and society can make bureaucrats obsolete

So you will fuck off and stop spamming the same failed ideology here over and over like the worthless insect that you are.

Of course, people still function the same way - they barter, speculate, discriminate, stack advantages for their children. No one really changes their thinking, except a few hardcore autists.

And even they eventually indulge, either because either they figure "everybody else does it, why shouldn't I" or they're pushed by some extreme need (sick child etc) to stop being a drone for the collective, and instead maximize what they pull out of the system.

OP thinks he'll be Pavlik Morozov or some shit, and if he was, he'd end up like him. But he's too self-interested to get himself killed, so he'll be hoarding grain like the rest of us.

You are very agressive

пoчeмy вы бoитecь нaceкoмых?

Would take a long time to unpack why it's an ideology that justifies a failure to maintain a DotP. There's this article, though. Eats trots and MLs for breakfast.

libcom.org/library/what-was-ussr-aufheben

It's hard to admit when you believe in a failed ideology. I suppose if they keep trying it'll work one day.

Thanks I'm giving it a look.

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>>Communism in it's full form is a stateless

what does marx say about crimes in his communist utopia? if there is no state, what will happen if someone commits a murder for example?

Daily reminder that TWP beat your asses, and they were outnumbered 10 to 1.

Daily reminder that your country was more secure and prosperous as a USSR satelite state.

Crime in a society of scientifically educated and eugenically improved citizens? who knows what marvelous technologies will automatically prevent any crime in the future comrade.

Daily reminder that your country was more secure and prosperous when Hitler ruled.

иди нaхyй мyдaк

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you know that humans always will commit crimes, but let's take your premisse:
yes of course, crimes will happen always. even if science is far more developed than today, mistakes happens, so your eugenically improved citizen commits murders because in his process of "improvement" something went wrong. just take this as a premisse.

what happens in a communist society now? how will the murderer be punished? who punishes him? and how are all those other eugenically improved citizens even able to punish him?

>there is no state authority in communist countries

t. AfD pro

not only for punishment, also to protect others of course, which is more important.
so, who is doing this without a state? and based on what laws?

Punish? what does punishing solve comrade?

Our ideas are so good that we have to impose them by force on other people.
We have become exceedingly efficient at it, we have destroyed the lives of mllions of innocents.

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Is this the same fucking Spanish fuck who keeps posting these threads

we are speaking about a utopian communism.

look at

Same Thread again 0/10.
Not even funny.
Its poor.

there are no criminals in an utopia.
that's the definition of utopia.

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yeah, and than forget the word utopia my ass, because it's entirely unrealistic. it's simply impossible.
i simply want an answer from OP for my question. if he insists the same as you, that in his dreamworld no crimes would happen, this thread is finished for me, because it's nothing more than daydreaming about an idea that will never work in reality

Any ausfags members in any socialist parties?

Can anyone give me the low down on how they plan to tackle hanson?

Is not only that they are genetically improved, the culture in which they are born will be much more peaceful than today capitalism. I'm not saying there won't be crime I'm saying it should be more rare and less tolerable by INDIVIDUAL people rather than needing something like the police.

Funnily enough, utopia actually combines the greek words meaning "no place", so a utopia is literally a place that doesn't exist.

>hurr durr utopias dont exist

wow, your first redpill?
even that american knew.

>I'm saying it should be more rare and less tolerable by INDIVIDUAL people rather than needing something like the police.

i'm fine with that: there are only extremely few crimes.
an then a murder happens.
could you finally answer my question?

come on buddy, you're annoying

yes, it's annoying to get called out for your bs, right?

Hello comrades.

I just told you, people themselves would act. No need for police, maybe they can 3d print guns to kill the asshole.

Ironic because you want a fascist utopia don't you? Where no countries would fight over their individual nationalisms...

dude commie logic lmao

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ANTS

I sincerely hope you die, the amount of hate I feel for Spanish people after your continuous commie propaganda
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Dead bourgeois.

so what's the point of this thread, if not for discussions?
i'm not an anti-commie, i just asked a question about a serious and want to see how it could be solved when humanity progresses to "perfect" communism. so just finally stfu

so in a society with nearly zeri crimes, normal citizens would start printing guns and hunt the murderer? are you serious?
also: people are different, and everyone would handle the situation differently. but there are no laws in your stateless dreamworld, so people could not agree how to handle the murder. what now?
oh, i guess people are not only eugenically improved, but simply clones and all are 100% identical, right? still would they act differently, simply to the different environments they grew up.
don't you realize how retarded your "utopian" is and won't ever work?

Should I think everyone there poo in the streets? wait ...

By the way, Sup Forums analysis studio showed indians are the most aggressive shitposters, are you some american living there or what?

I think I told earlier, I believe there would be a cybernetic system ( a network of supercomputers) at the service of communism preventing and securing that all goes smoothly. Let's say this system detects a criminal and authorizes you to print a gun for self-defense.

*not preventing lol

Nope panjeet af