Free Will

Do you believe free will exists?

Personally I don't really believe it exists, but I also don't think it really matters or is useful to think about too deeply. I think the illusion of choice is a perfect illusion, and there is really no difference between perfect illusions and reality.

If there was free will your country wouldnt be only 60% white you filthy denerate

Nigger-flag.

In the normal sense, yes. In the specific theological sense that's debated then no.

If my belief in false medicine makes it (somewhat) real, would my belief in freedom make me free, despite the obvious limitations? Yes.

If it doesn't, where does all the angst come from? If free will could be taken apart, then it would be a machine, and machines are deterministic, quantum mechanics notwithstanding. This is not to claim a proof of free will, but merely that it is a question like the afterlife or God which can't be answered by mere analysis.

So there are choices or not?

Free will is a meme

Brainwashing is real and it is used through media, television, and music

Almost nobody likes something because they like it. They like it because everyone else likes it.

Ask yourself this?

What would a universe without free will look like?

Would narwhals show up at your workplace wearing a banana suit?

Would your dick suddenly morph into cotton candy?

What does """"""""free will""""""""" actually entail? Why is it so poorly defined?

You have the ability to ride a tye-dye skateboard to Comet Ping Pong and punch Alefantis in the face. You have free will, faggots. Accept responsibility.

>What would a universe without free will look like?

Meant to say WITH free will. Typo.

Depends what you mean by "free will," if you mean that everyone can do whatever they want, then free will does not exist, as you cannot decide to fly, teleport, have some type of other ability, etc. If you're referring to the freedom to choose, then yes, "free" will exist.

for cowards, free will does not exist.

l2obey

>Almost nobody likes something because they like it. They like it because everyone else likes it.
Start liking something or noticing something.. I like a lot of things, but I tend to spend time on the more active things. Like social things with people I like. I might ignore many things I do like in favor of cohesion. I know what I'm doing.

those digits

It would take sovereignty from God some would argue. But then again he's outside space and time. I just think you can't have 100% free will. I think it's 99.% plus what God nudges.

As a Solipsist: Yes.

I think that free will as a concept, much like the concept of the soul, is beyond our full understanding and can be neither proven nor dispelled. Yet.

If you don't believe in free will it is pretty much because you don't want to be responsible for your mistakes in life and want to pass the blame onto invisible forces.
Take responsibility for your actions, what did you do user?
Confession time.

>This is not to claim a proof of free will, but merely that it is a question like the afterlife or God which can't be answered by mere analysis.
That's pretty much what I meant when I said
>but I also don't think it really matters or is useful to think about too deeply. I think the illusion of choice is a perfect illusion, and there is really no difference between perfect illusions and reality.
Basically it's not a useful thing to contemplate because it's unanswerable (at least with the technology we have currently).

>has free will
>chooses not to believe in free will
this isn't politics

If free will doesn't exist, right and wrong may still have meaning, but we can never change course. If free will does exist, we can choose to do what is wrong, just 'cause. Is it possible to be both conscious and lacking any self determination not only of physical action but mental action as well?

Free will exists.if you just be able to do it is a other question

Then why ask the question?

It's entertaining to contemplate.

free will isn't an important question

freedom is important. are we free? I believe we're slaves.

I like nietzsche's take, there's neither free will nor "unfree" will, just will

In other words, we don't have the freedom to choose counter-factually to reality, things ended up one way and they were always going to be that way, but the fatalist viewpoint is mistaken, there is no reason to believe that any specific psychological or behavioral outcome is predestined for you, because your will has power over you, and from the perspective of the present moment looking forward, the future is unclear

That is what is meant by 'have no Gods or graven idols before me'...not just necessarily a statue, but lust or greed itself we can be slaves to Even worshiping God is slavery, but he calls his yoke light.

there are choices, but most of them lead to your death so they really aren't choices at all.
free will, in a well governed society is for the most part a total sham.

>Do you believe free will exists?

It's a verifiable fact.

>he calls his yoke light
metaphor?

If free will doesn't exist, who do I blame for my bike getting stolen?

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you're not really addressing any of the actual issues.

if free will doesn't exist then our judicial systems make no sense. some people get off the hook because they had a bad upbringing or whatever - their temperament was too out of their control , abuses by parents etc. but if there's no free will everyone is just a product of their experiences, so how can we blame anyone for anything.

verify it then, faggot.