It is not sensuality, but abstraction, that leads us away from God

>It is not sensuality, but abstraction, that leads us away from God

Do you agree with this idea Sup Forums?

>inb4 God doesn't exist
In this phrase God is an interchangeable figure of speech for Truth or Good so autists please go away

Also, sensuality would mean something like the most raw possible sensation of reality: carnal pains and pleasures, orgasms, etc

Abstraction would be something aking to pure textual thought or thought that builds itself (and references) black-boxed symbols

>inb4 not politics
I would say this phrase encompases the omnipresent discussion in western thought that is currently determining policy choice in terms of how to deal with humans in a biological, psychological, and linguistic level; basically how accurate is the map, and how important should it be for us when legislating behaviour

i think our capacity for abstraction has improved our ability to describe what god may be like

i hear you and i agree that the separation is useful and its maybe the main think that make us Human

but that same capacity ends up in the biggest arguments for atheism ever, as well as a fuck-load of misunderstandings in every discussion ever, its easy as fuck to grab a conceptualization of what God may be like and debunk it by taking it outside of the frame of symbolic reference the abstraction was built on

however when approaching reality in a direct sensual way, the existence of a divine force becomes clear as light

m8 we are all insane and retarded. Some have caught on and most aren't even aware of it. Who gives a fuck? God certainly doesn't

yeah well, but the insanity and retardation is collective, which creates inner logic, which allows for build-up of systems that allow our insanity and retardation to grow and flourish

also our insanity and retardation is sometimes denied and put in evidence by outsider forces which don't give a fuck about our little insanity bubble's self-congruence, which means we are not entirely boxed-in and there exist external inputs guiding our collective delusions to saner realms

>inb4 someone has an opinion other than my own

fight me faggit, don't pathologize

>Saner realms.

I sort of like it here Desu.

stockholm

I'd deny it, but you wouldn't believe me anyway.

i would but i don't understand why you would prefer your beliefs to reality hitting your face, sounds suicidal to me

None of "God", "Truth", or "Good" exist.

We all get there in the end, and I'm patient. So I can dream if I want.

yet buildings keep standing up for thousands of years

Math exists and architecture exists. There is no defineable "Good" or "Truth"

thats Truth man, there's a way of placing stones that make buildings that resist for thousands of years, its also Good way of structuring shit

And you realize that arbitrarily calling things objectively "Truthful" and "Good" is an abstraction, right? So how do more abstractions lead us away from those original abstractions that you're putting under an umbrella as "God"?

>arbitrarily calling things objectively "Truthful" and "Good" is an abstraction
its not arbitrary, pyramids are a Good durable structure, its True wether you like it or not

also i did a disclaimer at the beggining saying that the use of God in that phrase was a figure of speech of the author

couldnt be more wrong.

It's both at their extremes.
You're supposed to live a balanced life neither fantasizing all day nor fucking everything that moves And eating everything that doesn't.

you are right, but let me add that sensuality to me also contains within it that feeling of emptyness and lack of pleasure after you abuse something pleasurable, or the numbness after you grow a callus from abuse of pain, i don't think the phrase should be interpreted as hedonism being better than thinking, i think it means that sensual information is a reliable way to reach truth and that abstract thought is the father of all vices