Friendly reminder that if you think human made climate change is a hoax you should hang yourself along with your kike overlords
Friendly reminder that if you think human made climate change is a hoax you should hang yourself along with your kike...
Grayson Jones
Matthew Gomez
the kikes promoting climate change are the rothschilds
John Flores
climate change is real, it's just that the amount Man has to be blamed for this and rates of global warming have yet to be proven.
Liam Perry
Take your lust for carbon taxing and choke to fucking death on it you fuck face.
Anthony Jones
Please don't rile them up. They emit enough shit already without you pouring oil to the fire. The biosphere is fucked, as it was from the moment we learned to use fire and began the spreading conflagration of civilization.
Henry Bennett
Wtf I hate money and industry now.
>using a cartoon as proof
Leo Rivera
even if it did exist, so what? are you going to be the first to volunteer to move into the woods and live free from electricity and oil? the data we DO have is that alternative energy is all garbage and can't meet modern, growing demands. the best energy source right now is probably nuclear, but hippy beatnicks killed that in the 80s
David Brooks
>coldest winter in 100 years
>"""global warming"""
Jaxon Smith
> the amount of energy contained withing the atmosphere and the hydrosphere increases, creating extreme weather
So yes. """"""""""""""""""""""""""Global Warming"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Sebastian Bell
Why the fuck should we wait when we already know projections for the future effects?
What's wrong with not polluting the air?
Josiah Edwards
>Why the fuck should we wait for undeniable proof that will flip our economy upside down?
Oh, gee I wonder!
Noah Campbell
It's unfortunate that you lack the self awareness to understand that you are the leftist equivalent to the evangelicals on the right.
Daniel Cox
Probably because every projection your preachers have ever made has turned out to be absolutely wrong.
Asher Price
That's a cute Basset Hound, Batou.
Anthony Nguyen
shouldn't you be trying to find a job young man.
Isaiah Adams
Why do people always think that climate change means that temperatures will only go up?
It actually means that summers will be much hotter and winters will be much colder.
David Diaz
occam's razor.
Henry Thomas
That's the current mantra, because every prediction your pastors have made in the last sixty years has failed.
In the seventies the faithful believed we were headed for another ice age.
In the eighties and nineties the flock believed the world was going to heat up and the ice caps were going to melt flooding cities and making the planet uninhabitable by 2010.
The modern church decided they wanted the best of both worlds.
Luis Flores
>you should hang yourself along with your kike overlords
>implying the kikes aren't the ones planning carbon taxes to wring more money out of companies for basically no benefit to the environment
Kayden Martinez
Listen to Randall Carlson you dirty commie
Jordan Sanchez
Climate change is a trivial problem because we are going to build a space elevator.
With an elevator in hand, mitigation of climate change with something like a sun shade costs around $100 million.
If we assume the space elevator is good for nothing other than climate change mitigation, and purchase it for $430B solely to build a sun shade.
People who advocate for drastic reductions in CO2 emissions will project at least 20% increases in the price of energy. Let's ONLY consider the cost of grid electric power. We currently spend about $600B per year on electric power from the grid.
A 20% increase in cost amounts to $120B per year. In other words, a mere four years of what the loony anti-carbon nuts want us to accept is enough to pay for an alternative solution.
Here you see proof that the traditional Overton window on climate change is a sinister fraud. Whether it is true or not, none of the solutions proposed by these nuts should be taken seriously because we have trivial and better alternatives.
Whether you believe the carbon tax types are simply retarded or sinister in their fraudulent Overton window is a matter of opinion left to the reader, but that they need to be rejected is objective fact.
Jeremiah Baker
>The man-made contribution to greenhouse gas production is but one-twentieth of one percent of the amount of greenhouse gases emitted each year by nature's own volcanos and Hydrothermal vents.
>still believing the planet is warming
>still believing that man is warming the planet
>still believing that raising taxes will fix it
Temperature increases that are directly proportional to the one-tenth of one degree over the last 100 years as observed on the Earth have also been observed on our Moon, on Venus, and in Mars.
Furthermore, there were no highly sensitive and accurate electronic atmospheric equipment until just 30 or 40 years ago.
>Anno Domini 2017
>not knowing that ALL global warming alarmists base ALL of their assumptions NOT on direct observation but on COMPUTER MODELING.
>Anno Domini 2017
>not knowing that Al Gore was worth $1.5 million in 2000, and is worth nearly $300 million today
>still believing that global warming is real and not a Marxist scheme to consolidate wealth and power into the hands of very few
Carson Harris
It is already possible to build a space elevator:
youtube.com
The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.
See, for example, Paul Birch's writings:
orionsarm.com
The orbital ring only requires tethers about 300 kilometers long which is technically feasible with common material like steel, but ridiculously straightforward with better and already available material like kevlar.
Brody Stewart
There are some important questions. First, how much would it cost to do something like this?
We need to send about 160 million kilograms of material into space (See Birch's boot strap estimates in part 2: orionsarm.com
We have rockets available at $2000/kg costs to LEO today in "mass production" mode, which is only about 10-20 launches per year. Compared with the couple thousand launches necessary for a space elevator, $2000 is an unreasonably high upper bound for launch costs.
We also need to include the cost of materials. A space elevator is about 98% steel and aluminum, 1% kevlar, and 1% other such as superconducting magnets. Most of the mass (98%) cost around $1/kg, with an average cost per kilogram of no more than about $10 per kilogram.
Summing the above up, we get about $430 billion in launch costs plus another $1-2 billion in material costs.
In other words, we can have a space elevator for less than $450 billion - significantly less than one year worth of DoD spending, one bank bailout, many times less than a variety of pointless wars, etc. This is well within our reach financially in other words.
Austin Miller
What do we get in return for this $450 billion investment?
Virtually unlimited value. For example, with a space elevator we can reliably launch our nuclear waste into the sun. We've spent $100 billion building a waste repository in Nevada, but it was ultimately decided not to even use it. Now it costs only a dollar or two per kilogram to get rid of all of the nuclear waste in the world.
Second, we have immediate access to viable asteroid mining industry. Because the cost of delivering payloads to LEO drops to about $1/kilogram, we can not retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface.
We acquire the ability to deploy profitable solar power in orbit above cloud cover and with the ability to return said power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator.
Just how profitable?
With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.
In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.
In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.
Julian Ward
It should already be obvious that the entirety of the political debate spectrum is cointelpro.
Are taxes too high or too low? Irrelevant, we don't actually need taxes.
Is social spending bankrupting us? Irrelevant, we can retire the national debt without cutting spending all while having no tax whatsoever.
What does this have to do with taking the red pill?
We've had the technological ability to undertake such a project for decades.
That means all the squabbling you have heard your entire life, money, debt, spending, taxes, scarcity, whatever, is all bullshit. Not only is it bullshit, anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the world has known that it is all bullshit for all of this time.
In other words, once you come to understand the such a project is and has been technically feasible for decades, you have to reevaluate many things.
Why is there nothing of this in the conspiracy media? They are not really trying to expose or solve any problems. One hundred percent of it is cointelpro. From the Young Turks to Infowars or whatever, they are all completely full of shit because solutions to our problems not only exist, are easy to carry out, but this has been the case for a very long time.
Similarly, you now know that 20%+ annual GDP growth is possible. If Trump gives you 3-4% instead of Obama's 2%, he is simply working with the establishment to try to placate and subvert a rising tide. If we see the easily achievable 20%+ growth rates, it is at least possible that he isn't a subversive. Anything less and you know he is a fraud.
Austin Martin
Man is certainly doing it's part, you just have to check the desertification, deforestation and acidification of oceans. With just a pair of functioning eyes you can see that Man can change the reality around it, covering them yourself and pretending it isn't happening doesn't stop it from being real.
I don't understand your stand here, this affects us all, every single one of us. It is beyond political ideology, stop thinking of leftists and rightwingers. Why oppose it so firmly, what if all the papers are right, we have the chance to at least try and make things better, instead of standing in front would it be better to take a skeptical position instead of being actively against it?
Hunter Baker
>What's wrong with not polluting the air?
There has been decades worth of anti-pollution controls and they have worked. Abating acid rain, non-flammable rivers, etc.
The path is proven. Why even use this approach when anti-pollution laws are readily accepted?
what gives?
Evan Collins
So no global warming then?
Jeremiah Jackson
Winner.
Josiah Richardson
The papers have been consistently wrong since your religion started.
The climate changes. It has always changed. It changes whether we influence it or not.
Get over it.
John Murphy
>b-but my house isn't somewhere with a 100% perfect temperature! It's drumpf's fault!
Ryan Collins
Pretty much this. The climate does change, but it has little to do with people.
Man-made pollution exists, man-made climate change does not.
Logan James
Maybe because the impact after the fact, of climate related insurance claims and destroyed homes, infrastructure and farmland is far greater than making what we have now a more sustainable standard!
What's wrong with having sustainability? Fucking jew only want your pockets filled faster. Try explaining everyone in a 100 years how an exponentially expanding economy is a good thing.
But you're a dirty jew so you'll probably do it on an orbital craft then.
>HOW CAN WE STOP THEM?
Luke Wood
Not this thread again. Sup Forums has proven that climate change is a hoax again and again. There will be no more debate, and we should lobby for a law making climate-hoax-denial illegal.
Go back to your tinfoil hat and leave this to the experts, some of us have lab-coats and have a consensus.
Jeremiah Smith
yes, let's put a carbon tax on everything, that will fix it!
Jonathan Scott
Because the debate on man made climate impact usually revolves around some form of emissions of something airborne.
The path is slow and the big visual impact will initially be seen in freak storms and natural disaster events. However people living in cities are getting lower life expectancies because air quality is deteriorating world wide.
>shuddup goyum, don't mind the gasses.
Bentley Murphy
Humans didn't invent fire. Science tells us that 2 moves up the evolutionary chain (or more) is where our desperate ancestors first invented and mastered fire.
So our ancestors have been causing hominid made global warming for about 140 million years.
Dominic Garcia
I've said it time and again. I can accept that climate change is man made possibly and not just a naturally occurring cycle.
What nobody has ever been able to answer for me is if we will be able to repair the damage that allegedly has been caused. So go on, anyone that is able. Please explain how carbon taxes and wind turbines etc will reverse the damage we've caused.
Christian Reyes
Could it be that not a single prediction of Climate Change has ever been right?
We'd be better off going to psychics to make predictions about the state of the future climate, world temperatures, sea level rises, etc.
Eli Rodriguez
Great post. Now remove the word "loony" from it, and it will even get some warmists to change their mind.
Jacob Cooper
Sup Forums has a very very poor understanding of the scientific method. The idea that every single scientist is bought and paid for is extremely laughable.
Carter Rodriguez
Not every scientist. Don't be ridiculous.
Just the climate scientists.
Anthony Harris
Space elevator, why did you stop your weekly threads??
I never thought Id miss a tripfag
Joseph Reed
>Free Market Entrepreneur 1: Guys, we have a problem. Our emission from burning fossil fuels are causing climate changes. We need to act.
>The rest of the free market: Ok well lets switch to modern nuclear technologies, invent efficient and effective electric cars, and invest in R&D of new green energy technology, so that the cost incentive of switching from fossil fuel sources becomes attractive to everyone
>Government: HOL UP
>WE NEED TO USE SHITTY WINDMILLS NOW
>EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NO IDEA RESPOND TO HIGH DEMAND OR HIGH SUPPLY TRANSIENTS WITH OUR CURRENT ENERGY STORAGE INFRASTRUCTURE
>EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COST-EFFECTIVE TO SWITCH FROM FOSSIL FUELS
>NO NUCLEAR POWER BTW IT'S BAD LOL
>ALSO LETS FRACK THE SHIT OUT OF THE UNDERGROUND KEK
>ALSO LETS INVEST A TON OF MONEY IN INEFFICIENT SOLAR CELL TECHNOLOGY
>THIS WILL EARN ME POINTS WITH ENVIRONMENTALIST DUMBFUCKS LOL
Asher Brooks
>desertification
Question: How are you going to fight desertification? Because wind farms cause desertification, and global warming. That's been well documented repeatedly. Not something people who aren't actually serious into climate change know though. They do both of these things as they remove wind from the global circulation. That causes the equators to heat up and the poles to cool, and it cuts down on the circulation of water vapor, which cuts down on global rainfall.
Remember, every thing is a trade off. So you just have to decide what is acceptable to you, and shill for that.
>deforestation
There is more forest now than ever before in the world. How do we know? Satellite pictures of the earth show that we have more forests, not less, and have since the very first satellite pictures from the 1940s (From German rockets taking stills while in flight).
So where do you think deforestation is happening?
Jaxson Perry
>There is more forest now than ever before in the world. How do we know? Satellite pictures of the earth show that we have more forests, not less, and have since the very first satellite pictures from the 1940s (From German rockets taking stills while in flight).
Sauce me up, scotty.
Jose Jenkins
Climate change is real, climate is not and never has been static. Man's influence is greatly overrated, and most that can be attributed to man isn't due to driving a 20 mpg car instead of a 35 mpg car. The slash and burn agricultural in Africa and South America are the main drivers along with burgeoning populations in the turd world.
Lucas Flores
Friendly reminder that CORPORATIONS GET GIGANTIC SUBSIDIES AND HUGE TAX BREAKS FOR GREEN INITIATIVES AND RENEWABLE ENERGIES.
There is no money to be made in denying climate change, fucktard.
All the money is in pushing it.
Hudson Green
Reminder that unless you come up with a realistic solution your studies are meaningless.
All I ever hear is that "It's real, just look at this graph I don't know anything about!" and "It's conservatives' fault!".
Shouting and saying whose responsible does nothing to solve the supposed problem.
Dominic Sanchez
You're a fucking moron... I'll bet you're the same faggot that posts those garbage commie generals... Get necked, cocksmoker
Anthony Hall
Because the man made climate change movement is not about sustainability, its about reducing human population to less than 1 billion, with the majority living at very basic poor sustenance as a pool to promote the best to a middle class American blessed existence to support the few thousands of elite leadership and their hand picked servants to live the lite of the rich elite.
No amount of "sustainability" is actually acceptable, because all of it would cause "global warming". You can't go carbon neutral and have modern life of any kind. Just living in NYC makes a person's carbon footprint 100 times larger than an African tribes man that lives purely off his oxen. Just living in NYC makes a person's carbon footprint 14 times greater than a Montana cattle rancher that eats steak at every mill, chows on beef jerky twice a day, drives a generation 1 Hummer around, and uses a helicopter to herd his cows.
Western life is impossible. Technology is impossible. So how are you going to get all of humanity "carbon neutral" and "sustainable" while allowing humanity to use technology? You aren't. And paying carbon tax is no going to solve the issue because no amount of planting rubber trees in Brazil is going to "offset" your carbon footprint even if you live carbon neutral, as long as you live among Western civilization.
Evan Jones
We need less farm land to feed us thanks to modern farming techniques.
Plants eat carbon dioxide.
This should be common sense.
Ayden Reyes
Turns out that trees love co2.
Ryder Perry
Air quality is deteriorating due to CHINA's rampant industrialization and burning so much coal in plants that have no pollution controls.
Satellite studies have shown that almost all of the drop in air quality is due to this.
Get China to spend money putting proper pollution controls on its coal power plants, and the world's atmosphere quality will start improving.
And no, it isn't "coal burning". If you bother to put on modern pollution controls on your coal plants, they won't pollute the air. But that costs more money, and right now, China doesn't give a damn. It needs the coal plants much more than it needs clean air.
Blake Gray
>Why the fuck should we wait when we already know projections for the future effects?
There is this thing called the scientific method, not the "99% of studies show" bullshit.
Liam Wright
Carbon taxes won't because CO2 is not a significant driver of climate change. And CO2 levels have contributed just about all they can to the global atmosphere heat retention effect.
If you want to fight man's effects on climate, you have to go after man's use of water and methane that results due to human activity.
Jeremiah James
you can make the same exact comic but with altenative energy in the background. do those retards think they giant windmills are free? that shit is just as expensive
Liam Lee
The timeframe of that is wrong. And it's not the only one.
You have no idea the things I'd do to you, I'd rip out every vein in your body and wrap them around you as I skin you alive and drip acid on your flesh.
Subhuman piece of filth, you know what to do.
Evan Morales
If carbon in the atmosphere goes below 350 ppm, plants will suffocate. The planet's had much higher levels of carbon before.
We're basically a hot blip of an ice age wasteland.
But keep (((recycling))).
Caleb Ramirez
Should read the rest of the article (Evans' report)) from which this graph comes from. Mostly saying "While it's not THAT bad, it's still bad, and still happening". Plus the study is incomplete in itself. William d. Nordhaus has some perspective on the matter
Connor Sullivan
Hansen, get off Sup Forums. Even with a proxy, IT will found out about it and make you sit through another Security IT training class and dock you pay if you don't.
Isaiah Ortiz
You fat fuck, it's not just China. It's every car, every tire scraping against any surface. It's from the powerplants that provide you're electricity.
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Fuck you, seriously. Go outside and find some fat dude and squat over his diabetes infested ankle and let that penetrate you till your intestines pop.
No it isn't, we just have taken this to the extreme. With having everything in the world available to fill any need or lust we might have.
There are solutions out there, the problem is people who don't even fathom there even is a problem.
You should pay more attention to the ones you love. You'll notice they all hide things from you.
Getting bamboozled by a digital waifu while rolling in your feces and crying for some burger. Your country and you are what's wrong in this world. Fat fucking disgusting pieces of meat serving no other purpose than consume your filth.
Brandon Watson
man, i'm almost impressed by the mental gymnastics it takes to blame the jews for climate change as well. Like at a certain point, you have to kind of give it up for the jews. According to Sup Forums theyve managed to control everything in the world from the upper shadow echelons of society. Pretty impressive for a small minority to have so much sway and power over our entire world! I think they deserve the masterrace moniker, what do you guys think?