I teach in an American public school...

I teach in an American public school. We are in a unit on Genetics and I asked all sections of my 10th grade students (15-16 year old) a handful of questions about genetics as a sort of "survey" about what they knew.

One of the most incorrectly answered questions was:
>How is biological sex determined?

The correct answer is "it's inherited." I even changed it from my original script, which asked "gender" over "biological sex."

In every single class, however, the vast majority of students were convinced it was "acquired" and that a person could "choose their sex." They believed that saying it was "inherited" was incorrect, and that genitals and sex chromosomes were not a determinant of biological sex. Even with a more in-depth scientific explanation, they argued that I was wrong.

I then tried to explain it to them, using the trans movement's own argument, that "gender is in your head, sex is between your legs." Some understood, but still some didn't like that answer and argued further that I was wrong.

I had to explain multiple times that every human inherits X and Y chromosomes from their parents, and that this is what determines their biological sex. "What they do with it is up to them," I added and kind of chuckled. A few kids joined in, but some students were STILL not satisfied. I tried to give examples of intersexual disorders to sort of assuage the "a woman could be born with a penis" comments I was getting, but stuck to my guns that XX = ovaries and XY = testes and as far as Biology is concerned those are the only two sexes in humans.

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Most surprisingly, it was more boys than girls who complained that "this didn't add up" and "[you] mean my parents were the ones that made me a guy?! What if I chose to be something else? You're telling me I have a penis because my parents' chromosomes made it that way? What about all those people who are trans! What about gay people! This does not add up and I'm so confused!"

I even had one girl say she was offended that this was even still being debated. "Clearly this is false, Mr. user. The X and Y chromosome are just chromosomes, like anything else. They don't decide whether you're male or female. You do, in your head."

Even more surprising (or maybe expected), my Hispanic, Asian, and black students didn't question my explanation at all. They agreed that sex was inherited. It was the white kids who continued to insist that I was wrong about sex.

Then... came the memes, "what if I want to be an attack helicopter?!" "Tell everyone to get off tumblr, mister!" "Actually, there's 72 genders! I saw it on Facebook!"

I even heard a student having a side conversation with another with the most serious tone he was so convinced he was right... "There used to be two genders, but scientists have discovered a lot more over the past few years!"

Ultimately, my lesson fell on deaf ears. I tried for a few minutes longer to bring them all around, but the class had politicized my basic science lesson and wouldn't let me correct their misguided information. I had to just drop it and move on. These students will probably come around once they realize there's a test on this information (and they better), but we'll see.

>tl;dr It's ridiculous how a generation of liberal agendas and "SJW" thinking has tainted the ability of these teenagers to accept something so basic. They are so confused about the matter that they don't even want to accept or acknowledge the truth when it so plainly put forth to them.

We told moshe that one was going a bit far but the madman did it anyways.

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a sorry shlomo

I think it`s more a tongue issue. English is a speak with poor semantics, that has no words to describe the nature accurately, because all the words have double-points, that must be taken into consideration simultaneously.

dude nobody is going to read that blog post

you fucked up by posting a picture of that judge lady now all the mummy autists come crawling out of the woodworks

was this today? what state are you in?

I'll make it a simple TL: Dr for you
>teaches in an American public school
>makes an attempt at teaching some basic biology
>class full of tards

Stop lying, none of this shit happened, all you're doing is shilling, especially if you're a teacher, those faggots don't get paid shit outside the east and west coast.

i think you have a class full of facebook intellectuals. maybe this 'fake news' really is a problem...

I'll make it a simple TL: Dr for you
> your semantics sucks
> your lexicon is overbloated with niggerspeak
> it`s the cultural bubble

Shit we both forgot to add 'Murica to our posts.

This is fucking scary. I think we'll end up burning the biology books.

Can you substantiate this, or put it on a blog post?

Likely

East Coast

I could get scans of the written responses, but not right now. Will try tomorrow when I'm back at school.

Not today, RI

That's because gender has become a non-scientific, colloquial word, you're basically sperging out on them.

I really want to get hold of this. Is there somewhere you can post them?

>"what if I want to be an attack helicopter?!"

I think this is the most sensible student in the class

These people are struggling with
>XY is a guy XX is a girl
For fuck sake, what will be their reaction when you'll teach them about genetic disorders like say XXY? A brain aneurysm?

The internet and news has told them all their lives that being a girl is just something you make up.

Trans movement is destroying education.

Suggestion, maybe teach them about treatment that only work on biologically male/female individuals.

>Ultimately, my lesson fell on deaf ears
To really nail the point home, Give them a "pop quiz". Be BRUTAL with the red pen. If they refuse to listen to logic, let them see the consequences of listening to MSM and not an actual accredited instructor.

Throw the book at them, then move on to the next lesson. Let the ones who want to make a scene do it in the principal's office.

Explain sickle cell.

>Tries as hard as possible to explain in a way they'll accept
>They still freak out
Just don't even try to reason with them

cool story bro

just put all those questions on the test, and weigh those questions higher than the others.

If they chose to pick the wrong answer, fail them.

This.

This is Now a MUMMY thread

You sound soft as shit, OP.

I'll offer you this advice-
Nobody will respect a scholar who is not grave.

Being the funny guy gets you laughs, but it also gets you ignored and treated like a peer instead of a superior, which you are.

Haven't you gotten the message? The science of biology is a hate crime now.

This has been happening loong before you took notice OP.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Your next lesson should be on racial differences in intelligence and that intelligence is genetically inherited.

dude russian is literally the most garbage language to exist

Given how insane cultural Marxist ideology has become, I would not be surprised at all if a biology teacher was fired for teaching biology.

You should inform your students that the term 'gender' belongs in French or Spanish class, not biology.

You should have told them that Male and Female are words of sex, Masculine and Feminine those of gender. Gender is the language of sex. A man can be feminine, but not female.
>It was the white kids who continued to insist that I was wrong about sex.
Of course it was. The white families of today don't have a strong cultural foundation to supply them with knowledge or pass down traditions. And what little they do have is often too weak to hold out for very long. A father who hasn't thought seriously about the morals he wishes to pass on to his children cannot maintain his views against the sort of stuff that's been cooked by colleges professors for decades and has made its way to websites like tumblr, which are also mainly frequented by white introverts.

The school system is supposed to supply these deficiencies, but that obviously doesn't happen where the whining parents and children can bend the rules.

>scarcely speaks the language
>here's what sucks about it
Every time.

Yeah, missed out on some serious reddit points there.

What school? I'm studying to be a teacher in RI atm.

looking at that pic, it is hilarious that arabs or any other race thinks it has outsmarted the white race.

You will all die soon you horrible vile creatures....

youtube.com/watch?v=dcXF9ef_pOk

deus vult.

Just fail them if they don't comply. Either that or you are complicit in the machine that is destroying us. Take a stand now or suffer later.

>Even more surprising (or maybe expected), my Hispanic, Asian, and black students didn't question my explanation at all. They agreed that sex was inherited. It was the white kids who continued to insist that I was wrong about sex.
No one would question this down here. Your country really is fucked.
He specified biological sex, that is not ambiguous at all (unlike "gender")

Gonna have to agree with this user.

These SJWs are entitled to their opinions and beliefs, but they are going to need to accept that science does not lie, and the only reason they have these thoughts of being able to determine their sex is because of social media and MSM.

I wish I had teachers like you. Putting aside their predispositions (however correct they may be), as evidenced by you using the term "biological sex" in place of gender

And then explaining so well.

Stay good!

Yeah that's a pretty good response actually.

I really don't understand how they don't get it though. I mean they were either born with a cock and balls or not. They didn't actively fucking decide at some point.

Such a nice post, indianon

>"what if I want to be an attack helicopter?!"

and they doubt the power of this place
it will take a long time to fix the damage that's done

Good post tbqh
Wish more Indians posted this way/

>I teach in an American public school

You poor, poor bastard

Thanks for making me again glad I didn't go into teaching with my bio degree.

No, mathematics aside English is likely the best language for science and logic because of the sheer number of adjectives and prepositions.

English conjugates to very clearly specify the role of its parts in a sentence, you are forced to arrange it logically in order to understand it.

This is a feature best typified in English and a feature actually completely missing from many languages.

The adaptive borrowing potential of English means the dominance of English isn't going anywhere.

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once i caught a fish alive

You're preaching about biology to a board full of autists that refuse to accept something as basic as evolution.

Stay cool Indian bro, have a nice day.

When I was in high school we still openly called people faggots and thought trannies were some bizarre fetish for just a very few people. That was only 6 years ago.

No, evolution is accepted as obvious and uncontroversial here. It's your lies about the earth not being flat that we deny.

I teach high school science, too. Let them know that you don't give a shit about their pc bullshit and that you are teaching science not magical fairly magic. Like it or not, it's on the test.

>Most surprisingly, it was more boys than girls who complained that "this didn't add up" and "[you] mean my parents were the ones that made me a guy?! What if I chose to be something else? You're telling me I have a penis because my parents' chromosomes made it that way? What about all those people who are trans! What about gay people! This does not add up and I'm so confused
Just reply "yes", just like you inherited your race, eye colour, height, and everything physical. Even intelligence and personality to a degree.

Don't forget to say "you are a unique blend of genes from your parents" so they can still feel like a special snowflake

Fucking commies, every time.

This sounds like an issue that could only be solved with rhetoric. You need to cite 2 or 3 authoritative-sounding authorities that define biological sex. Then explain almost mockingly that their tumblr friends and favorite lgbt blogs are in no way reputable authorities on the issue. If they haven't listened up to this point, subtley mock their intelligence. Tell them "It's part of my job to help you guys.. oops" *cover mouth sheepishly* "I mean, faggots.. It's my job to help you think critically, but I don't... think I can help you," and immediately move on.
If you have however convinced them of the definition of sex, then move on to explain that while there are an infinite number of potential genders because it's all fantasy, unless it's used synonymously with "sex," "gender" doesn't really exist.

Well then that needs to be corrected, doesn't it?

Simple. Look for studies in genetics that deal with the issue, and ask students to bring studies in genetics that disprove OP's """so that we can have a healthy debate""".

Better yet, make them write an essay. And they have to convince you that they know what's right or wrong.

The 'attack helicopter' meme makes me wonder if OP is larping, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I think this is being targeted at whites - minorities are getting a free pass on the propaganda because, well they're minorities, so they must already be oppressed and don't need lecturing.
I do wonder though if it is 'all in the head'. Sure, chromosomes determine sex, but the mechanism is through hormones during development - both on the development of the sex organs, and the brain. If something disrupts that, not just the well known chromosomal disorders, but synthetic estrogens, or even some subtle genetic disorders or mutations we don't know about, they could get a female/gay brain, underdeveloped genitals, who knows?
You ever look at someone and think they look like a fag? Not just stupid hair or mincing about, but their actual face? There was a study that found people could spot a 'gay face' better than just by chance.
I still think it's a disorder, just that it has a physical basis, just like down syndrome is. Also, it is clear that there's an agenda, so that borderline and mentally ill are being encouraged to embrace it. In former times, most would have been quietly faggy and not bothered anyone.


No, he said he deliberately used 'biological sex' instead of 'gender' to describe the physical aspects. And it's not unreasonable to insist on the correct use of biological terms in a biology lesson.

Tell them that as a little treat, the test will be only two questions. One will be how biological sex is determined, and the other can be whatever you want. Anyone who doesn't accept this will automatically fail.

The next step in discussing in what causes XXY, is what way is best to euthanize those living mistakes, whether in the womb or already born.

t. serious post.

Mate we don't even have a difference between singular and pluralised second person, most of our language is made up of vague nonsense which can be completely misinterpreted ("you people") and we split hairs so often it's results in words being muddled up losing their meaning, for example most people couldn't tell you the difference between "jealousy" and "envy".

Fucking french is better than English

>The adaptive borrowing potential of English means the dominance of English isn't going anywhere
Chinese, Spanish and french are fast approaching it though. If America becomes too Hispanic English will drop away like a rock and the other three will compete, with possibly Russian and Arabic competing too.

>The X and Y chromosome are just chromosomes, like anything else. They don't decide whether you're male or female. You do, in your head."

>attempting to comprehend how someone could think this

jealousy is fear of losing what you have. most people have seen that simpsons meme.

I've seen the attack helicopter line in imgur, but I suspect the place is full of antileftist bots and shills so who knows.

>Simpsons
Wat?

Jealousy is seeing someone have something and wanting the same, there is no malice in it.
>Jim has a hot wife, I want a hot wife too!
>Jim has $100 dollars, I want $100 dollar two!

Envy is wanting what that person specifically has, it has a level of malice and selfishness to it as it's a desire to direct take what they have for yourself
>I want jim's hot wife (and for him to be alone
>I want jim' s money (and for him to have nothing)

That's why envy is considered a Deadly Sin, on the same level as Pride, while jealously isn't.

(OP) = LARPING!

Yet gay people find the opposite sex revolting.

Gen Z is lost
They will be super millennials 2.0

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until they awake up and kill all the stupids...

>realize that your system violates nature
>change nature to make it fit communism

There's some hope with Trump

As an educator, I thought you should know something:
Though it's true that it's specifically the sperm that makes it to the egg that "predetermines" sex, all conceived start as a female.

At a certain point in development, early on, there is a surge of testosterone that hits the fetus. If that surge "doesn't take", the fetus will remain female. If it does, it will become male.

This is the current medical understanding of how we develop into what we are. This is also how various chromosomal disorders occur; when things don't fire off correctly in these critical early stages.

Teachers imparting knowledge on youngsters should be required to lift references directly from medical journals; at least the cliff notes. This would clear up a great deal of confusion in our education system, and return us to an age of actual science and discovery instead of the "feels" path we're currently on.

physics teacher here - serious question. I had this discussion with a bio teacher last week about genetics and inherited traits.

Is biological sex, properly speaking, "inherited" from the father? "Inherited" implies the parent passes the trait down to the offspring. Because the sperm determines the sex, children do not exactly "inherit" a male chromosome from the father. Any insight? My colleague had no good answer.

Also, thoughts on whether faggotry is inherited or conditioned?

I can't believe how retarded people are these days... observing bio and genetics while denying reality.

Literally ask if we can determine the sex of a cadaver. Everyone says yes of course! Well, what happens when it wakes up and says it's the opposite sex/gender? The confusion on their faces is remarkable

>blog post

hahaHAHAHAHAahah how old is this user?
barely two paragraphs and he can't handle it. god i love weeding out the perma-retards

>I had to just drop it and move on.
You're part of the problem.

I'm stealing your Pepe

According to the simpsons, jealously is fear of losing something you have to someone else. wanting what someone else has is envy.

To be fair, a biologist is expected to understand the difference.

youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA

(You) McNiggerburg. enjoy your new ultra rare pepe

My ex is from ri. She was really nice.

Apparently you've never tried to debate with an excessively stupid person.

put that shit on the final and fail the retards who put that there are more than 2 sexes (excluding intersex hermaphrodites)

do it pussy

Oh I will

Oy Vey that one's pretty good. Hope you're ready for tomorrow amigo

Just revisited my HS. over 90% white. It's a blue county, and boy does it show, but there are a lot of Trump supporters.

They voted 55% trump in a mock election.

Very strong black student union (whjch is mostly white people, there are only ~50 black kids in the school), lgbt support groups.

There is a special socratic seminar class that my brother is in (combined social studies/history with english classes, lots of public speaking, debate, etc) which has all of the students who actually care about politics. There is a small group of very very vocal libshits that most everyone hates (blm types, white virtue signallers). once they had a 1 hour virtue signalling session about their homosexual grandparents. they shout at people they disagree with until they shut up. about 1/3 of the class is silent conservatives that started their own afterschool club last year. apparently they got fed up with the libshits preventing actual discussion so they have their own study group/seminar thing after school.

My brother tells me that his seminars got cancelled for a week because of Trump. Outside of that class filled with raging libshits, nobody else in the school really cared that much, except for the conservative club who looked smug, and the chad types that laughed about it.

worst part about it is that the teachers of the class are too pussy to do anything about it and keep the class on track (which is hard to classify because it is rather freeform by nature).

the people following the millennial example are hated. it's more popular to not have an opinion at all.

Not sure if you're serious but an offspring's sex is determined by the X or Y chromosome the male parent produces. Not exactly sure what you're second question is but during meiosis there is chromosomal crossover of both parents.

This could have been an opportunity to elaborate on some finer points of sex determination. You could have gone into the syndromes or the SRY region of the Y chromosome. There are studies documenting the effects of inactivating the SRY region. You could have also injected nuance into the debate by bringing up that people can choose secondary sex characteristics but not primary sex characteristics.

I think you could have handled the situation better

Yeah the male passes on the X or Y and the female passes on an X. When the male passes on an X, is it still considered inheriting the sex of (or from) the male? The XX is then physically expressed, but is the daughter considered to inherit the female trait from the male parent? It just seems odd that the daughter "inherits" the physical female traits from the male parent.

I may just be nitpicking the word "inherit" wrt phenotype and genotype

Some will be super millenials 2.0, a sizable chunk of them will be extremely redpilled from everything they've seen.

t. guy with 14 year old brother

they should just burn their biology books while they're at it.

I'm so amped. Gonna pop some popcorn and watch it with the senpai

Meanwhile, I teach 10th graders in a Title 1 school and I have to keep students from calling people faggots, retards, and gay lords every fuckin' day. I managed to get them to calm down in one class because I have not only one but TWO FtM trans students. They're pretty chill dudes though and they don't go insane when someone misgenders them.

I guess teaching students who live in the lower 10% of household incomes has some perks.

This chick is one of those that looks pretty at first, but is such a sour bitch you end up trading her to a black guy for a pack of smokes.