So the 2 kids went into the car just to listen to music? Did they not have smart phones, a radio, or computer...

So the 2 kids went into the car just to listen to music? Did they not have smart phones, a radio, or computer? They had to use a car radio?

Perhaps, or maybe it was in the 90s or early 2000s.

Depends.

Who taught the kid how to drive?

Shes not responsible but is an absolute retard by trying to sue the dead girl's mother.

She looks like a psychopath and son looks genuinely retarded.

The plaintiff is a total sociopath, but she's right isn't she?

The 16 year old crashed and totaled the plaintiff's car, and injured the plaintiff's son in doing so. Whether the 16 year old survived or not doesn't actually change who's responsible, does it?

But since it all happened on the plaintiffs property and under her supervision she's actually more responsible for the death than the girl is for the car.

Judge Judy is prejudice a lot of the time. If you're a young person and especially a young girl she's going to grill you. How many times has she given young girls her speech about how they don't pay her for being gorgeous they pay her for being smart? She also freaks out if a white person says yeah or like but she lets black people speak whatever Ebonics they want and never corrects them.

>she's actually more responsible for the death than the girl is for the car.

If someone steals my car then crashes it, it's my fault because I have a car they were able to steal?

>But since it all happened on the plaintiffs property and under her supervision she's actually more responsible for the death than the girl is for the car.

She never gave the 16 year old permission to drive the car, so it was on her property but not on her supervision.

The 14 year old doesn't have the authority to give the 16 year old permission to drive either.

It seems like if the 16 year old had lived and been fine, then nobody would raise an eyebrow about the defendant paying for the car + medical expenses.

Well, there's still the fact that the son, who is 14 years old, was allowed to drive the car unsupervised even though he wasn't of age to do such things. That's another issue against them.

It's a bit complicated because the daughter was the one driving and therefore directly responsible for the accident.

Very fucking cruel move to sue a grieving mother, but all things considered I do think they deserve some sort of compensation.

the car and method were given willingly

its her responsibility to make sure that isnt the case

Is that relevant? She drove a vehicle without permission, without training, and died as result.

She looks like someone who's exhausted and pissed, and forcing her way through the embarrassment of trying to recuperate losses.

She has every right to demand money from the damage of her vehicle. The woman's daughter stole it and wrecked it. Is she supposed to accept a lost vehicle and lost damages because the other mother lost her daughter? It doesn't mean she isn't sad about the death of someone else.

The plaintiff's son wasn't driving it at the time of the accident though, so I don't think that's relevant.

>the car and method were given willingly

She isn't responsible if the daughter surprises her and drives off with it. She can call the cops while she's on her joy ride, but that's about as much as she can do. Giving her son the keys to listen to music is different than giving a stranger's daughter the keys.

She's not a ticking time bomb of criminal activity. Someone shouldn't be held responsible for that besides the mother of the daughter and the girl herself.

if the girl is over the legal age of responsibility then no, it's on her, however if she's a little kid then yeah you're a retard for leaving the keys in there

as long as the children were on her property willingly and accepted and she wasnt kidnapped itsthe owner of teh property responsible for their well being

its transparent, whats wrong with you?

effectivly she was babysitting them when one of them was killed due to her negligence

That's not such an issue. My dad let me drive his car around our property all the time. Tractor as well. In some jurisdictions I believe that's perfectly legal. That isn't a public road.

She is not responsible for the daughter stealing it and driving it 60mph around a corner, now is she?

So leaving a 14 year old in a car with keys makes you culpable if that kid decides to go for a joy ride under his own volition? I have some news for you about the reality of how the law works, son.

it was made clear she wasnt supervising them

she was babysitting them and was responsible
they wouldnt have done it if she was there

and if she had given them permission while there it would be her fault again

The only person responsible for the theft of the vehicle is the girl and possibly her parents.

Tell me, how far would this logic go? Should she not leave a stove on incase the girl is an arsonist? Is she responsible if she burns the house down? What if there's a shotgun in the house for protection? Is the woman responsible if that girl decided to ransack the house for it and then kills everyone? Where do you draw the line, and if this is where then you better have a good explanation.

Based Judge Judy is based

Music always sounds better in the car

What negligence was there? Leaving your keys in the car so your kid can listen to the radio? That's totally normal.

Everyone knows listening to music in a car with a solid stereo system is God-tier

>She is not responsible for the daughter stealing it and driving it 60mph around a corner, now is she?

wasnt stolen. you honestly believe in a court of law you can say "I left these two 14 year olds in a car with the keys i gave them and then left for an hour"

you think you would not be responsible for anything that happens to them on your property under your supervision?

thats like giving a baby a bottle of bleach, opening it then going shopping leaving the child in teh house alone

If you trust kids with the keys to your car, the result is on you, in my opinion.

If you can't sleep off a few beers in the back seat of your own car without having to hide the keys from the cops through an elaborate scheme to remove "intent" to move the vehicle, this bitch shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt either.

Wasn't there a Seinfeld episode like this?

>The only person responsible for the theft of the vehicle is the girl and possibly her parents.

its not theft

she had already given her son multiple times allowance to drive on her property and he spoke for her

in that respect her bad parenting of her own child was the reason the girl died

the fat kid wasnt taken by force or screaming or calling the police. he allowed it based on his mothers access and atitude

all the while the mother was not supervising two children she had entrusted to her care
she is responsible for ANYTHING on her property she has knowledge of and acceptance of which she then doesnt supervise

She gave them permission to listen to music. She is absolutely not responsible for a 14-year-old making the decision to go for a joy ride in that vehicle. Leaving your keys on the table is also not going to make you responsible for a kid stealing it and going off in it.

This makes no sense. Punish the victim of car theft?

But what if a nigger steals it? How DARE you do that! Don't you know niggers can't help themselves but steal cars?!

>she had given someone else permission to drive the car, therefore everyone is allowed to drive said car.

k

>its not theft
>wasnt stolen
>vehicle taken and driven without permission

Absolutely was stolen.

>you think you would not be responsible for anything that happens to them on your property under your supervision?

Absolutely depending on their age. A 14-year old is not a toddler, if one stole your car after you invited them over you're not responsible for the theft and you're not responsible for them dying after stealing your vehicle.

Again, does not make any sense.

>1. they are underage
>2. she has given permission to her son to drive prior multiple times
>3. she was not supervising 100% of the time two children entrusted to her care on her property

if they are under 18 they are children

She also gave them permission, at that moment, to listen to music. Even her son, who usually drives, didn't have permission to drive at that moment. She just gave them permission to listen to music.

She is apparently responsible for a 14 year old making the decision to take the car for a spin. Without permission.

She is responsible because she didn't know that a black 14 year old tends to steal vehicles. How dare she not know about this teenage's disease that causes her to commit crime.

>are you responsible?
Nope. Her fault, she was 16, and presumably had a driver's license.

i dont believe her

also i find that because of her previous actions which she admitted to she provided an enviroment in which children could be done harm unsupervised

You don't know the circumstances that she permitted her son to drive in though. Driving through a flat area in good weather is totally different than whatever the 16 year old was doing. There's not a lot of information provided.

Furthermore she never gave him permission to drive, only to listen to the radio.

>depending on their age. A 14-year old is not a toddler

18 or they are babies
thats the law

This is false, you can drive before you are 18.

i dont believe her when she says that

>18 or they are babies
>thats the law

Not so. The girl was 16, and we allow 16 year olds to drive without parents in the car.

i agree and i guerentee none of this was gone over with her son at any point

she tossed them the keys like it was nothing and didnt discuss safety or responsibility. she literally threw the keys at two children and went inside to watch tv and drink

she is responsible by gross negligence

Furthermore, when an accident occurs, the parents of the minor are held responsible financially for the accident.

Great insider information you have there.
Back to Pakistan, cockroach.

but only with a license
its not illegal to drive without one on private property but it does show poor parenting and negligence to give proper care or risk assesment
she should have her kids taken from her for endangering and being a bad parent

Granting conveyance in any way, shape or form to anyone under legal age is retarded. But since this was done in a private court, the plantiff got extremely lucky.

I believe you are a subhuman

Well, their insurance, but yeah

it doesnt matter what age she was or what license she had

she was driving on private property so none of that matters

to law, she might has well been a 3 year old she is not more or less protected in law than letting a baby drive a car because while not against the law it is STUPID

>fat southerner with aches of land that lets her underage retarded son hoon around unsupervised

big fat white yank trash

Like I said. If the girl took the keys, that would be different. But the keys were given to the kids.

It is not negligent to leave your 14 year old son in the car with the keys in. Especially on private property. You can say that it makes her a bad mother, but that doesn't change the legal aspects of the case.

Especially not when the kid had previously used the vehicle without incident.

at any rate she is negligent of her vehicles security on a regular basis which she openly told her son and was accepted

>It is not negligent to leave your 14 year old son in the car with the keys in

fuck yanks, thats a crime. she should have her children taken from her for endangerment

if not legally then its stupidity
either way its not a GOOD thing. it doesnt help her case at all

>bad mother
>raised a bad son
>he kills a girl on her property because of this
>unsupervised

she deserves to go to jail for manslaughter

I fucking love those trashy daytime court shows. The last bastion of somewhat conservative and rational values on television.

Yeah. If her son crashed it, that would be on her as well. But apparently her son is reasonably trustworthy. A risk she chooses to take.
But giving another kid access to the keys as well is just fucking stupid.

Well this is "yank" law. Honestly I never would have given leaving teenagers in a vehicle with the keys a second thought if it hadn't been for this case.

We Americans believe in freedom you pom.

you keep your fucking car keys in a lock box? top kek. kids can be responsible for their actions under the age of 18 in the law.

>give two babies knives
>leave for hours
>"my mom always lets me do this!"
>runs knife across his throat
>"that looks fun!"
>girl cuts her throat and dies
>"PAY FOR MY SONS DRY CLEANING!"

/thread

BIN THE KNIFE CHARLIE I TELL YOU!

no, she is a bad parent.
her son clearly isnt trust worthy because he killed someone!
IVE never killed anyone

shes a monster and deserves much worse than paying for a car and $5000

one less of you now

>i dont believe her

You believe she allowed them to drive around on the property? I bet you would believe she gave him permission to pound her ass too.

Look at the mother, 100% guaranteed Hillary supporter, nothing of value was lost. :^)

It wasn't stolen, the son was with her, if it were stolen the son would have told her to stop driving.

but she is the one who provided the keys willingly

her negligence and thoughtlessness killed a person by proxy

You don't understand the law. You are actually doing this, aren't you:

>You are not a conscious being until you are 18, because the law says so.

That's what it seems to me. You know that's pretty fucking stupid, right?

Like I said, if the girl took the keys, rather than them being given to her, it would be a different story. Dunno how many time I need to repeat that.

Don't need to keep the keys in a lock-box, if the kid steals them, it becomes the kid's fault.

But giving them the keys and the car... It seems different to me, intuitively, and there is probably a legal difference as well.

her own son testified to it in court then tried to change his statment you cunt when his mother yelled at him

It's not a big deal. The tv show pays for the rulings.

what does the law say?

m8, are you really gonna claim that's an apt comparison? come on.

If you leave your keys in the ignition it's still stealing.

It wasn't stolen, its more like your mums boyfriend sleeping on your dads side of the bed, then the two pissing and fucking on the mattress to the point it is unsalvageable.

Who is dad going to sue to replace his mattress? His wife or her boyfriend.

>black girl instinctively commits grand theft auto

The plaintiff is not responsible for her death, but if she wants to collect going after her grieving mother for the money is disgusting.

The question is not whether the plaintiff is responsible, but whether the defendant is responsible for her daughter's actions. I do not belive she is, but if someone knows the law better than me feel free to correct.

she gave permission prior, to unsupervised driving on the property by her son. he in turn gave the keys to the girl willingly base don what his mother had allowed and told him. at no point did the mother say you cant give her the keys or talk or in any other method try to impose restrictions on either of them

therefore by negligence and none existent risk assesment she allowed her son to willingly give her the keys as a result of not specifically saying he couldnt do that

that falls under bad parenting and bad babysitting

Its code for they wanted to fool around and the girl wanted to take it further and add danger to the element.

well judge judy awarded her the full counter suit and dismissed the case for the white trash sooo..

>are people responsible for others' actions

Why would you even ask that?

>on the property
>by her son
That's pretty contradictory to son's girlfriend not on the property. Just because a woman gives a man consent to sex doesn't mean his friend can rape her on the way home.

Babies do not meet the age for doli incapax. 16 year olds do. Huge legal issues with your comparison.

not according to the law. so you can give your personal moral opinion, but the law doesn't hold parents to the standard of never letting teens touch car keys.

but she lost her case in a court of law for being "stupid" and having "no case"

check the flag dude, they need licenses just to watch tv

judge judy is not a court of law

you're not making an argument for that case. it's a different standard, and also different law regarding who is responsible for the damage.

Alright. If it actually is allowed by law, then I guess she should have won.
It still seems incredibly stupid to me to let teenagers who aren't supposed to be driving have your car keys.

>not realizing judge judy is faker than both pro rasslin and my wife's orgasms.

>aren't supposed to be driving have your car keys.

burgerclaps see this as "should and can drive because muh freedom"

It's a fucking accident. It's tragic that a girl was killed, but ultimately it was stupid kids doing stupid shit. Nobody is to blame for any of this.

Im guessing it was automatic and was quite simple for the kid

it's a fucking key you dense motherfucker. it's an inanimate object.