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Lets identify some of the problems in our church and how to fix them. Also discuss what's happening in the church.
>problem
Communist infiltration
Vatican II
Cardinal (((marx)))
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What do? Our Church and its teachings are needed now more than ever, it can be a big help in healing our broken world

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That position has nothing to do with Masons

T- Master Mason

should proabably fix kiddie diddlers instead of protecting them

What do you fags do anyway? I know your secretive and all but whats your end game?

The Church, in an attempt to be modern and 'progressive' has destroyed its traditionalism since the Second Vatican Council.

We need to research what are the affairs of the Institute for the Works of Religion aka Vatican Bank, because (((they))) may be hidden behind the penny. Linked to paedophilia scandals, disappearance of children and the death of John Paul I

The Devil has been infiltrated inside the Church for a long time

youtube.com/watch?v=rTplrE8WRFA

HOLD THAT LINE, HOSPITALIER
HOLD THAT LINE, BASED BURKE

Yea, I read a pamphlet from some nuns back from the 50s where they talk ask why the church is being silent on issues such as judeo-bolshevism, and talmudic judaism and they say "is it because American jews bailed you (the church) out after WWI or because the Rothchilds control the Vatican bank?" How do we fix this?

This shit is more real than we thought

Fuck. How do we change this? Do we expose them? Would it hirt the church? Anyway we can get the Church to turn on its shekel masters?

If you look up the wikipedia page of the CEO of the Vatican Bank, there's a lot of pieces missing, although it mentions of xBERG surnames as acquaintances of Franssu

They need to be exposed for the welfare of the West

How do we expose this in a way that doesn't hurt the church?

3 Major problems, all of which are covered in Revelations 2...
* Jezebel
* Nicolatains
* Balaam

I've explained these many times, and written many essays on each topic, explaining them etc, but the response...

* Ignored
* Abused
* Change the subject
* Act like I wrote the Bible, like it's my own personal opinion.

You want problems fixed - these 3 nail it; except that I don't believe you. Is anyone here genuinely interested? If so, read chapter 2, and weigh in - ask a question etc. Are you even capable of absorbing new information? It's driving me nuts! Everybody acts like they know everything; like their childish feelings, or their personal opinions totally overrule His opinions and feelings. What the hell? The church is so fallen!

The Church cannot be hurt anymore, since what the church is today is nothing but a dummy, all of her representatives are scum

Well, as a catholic, I'm considering converting to Eastern Orthodox. the only thing I really value about catholicism is the idea of a one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. and in my mind, the eastern orthodox church and the assyrian churches are in that community. I would prefer a unified church in which the pope is First among Equals. But a unification isn't gonna happen. But the next best thing would be a proper pope who isn't a commie infiltrator. But the lay people have never had control over the clergy and the cardinals, their politics has always been a well kept secret, so that's not something we're going to control. So I'd say convert to eastern orthodox, it is the One Holy Apostolic Church and it was founded by Jesus Christ.
>related therightstuff.biz/2016/11/30/11-29fatima-and-the-future-of-white-civilization/

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Surely there are some good clergy men? What of cardinal burke? And the seminaries? How are they doing?

any similarities you find?

I'm Catholic but I don't go to church because mine has become too liberal. Latest message was about tolerance and other SJW globalist themes. I just want to read the Bible and learn from Jesus now.

What are you talking about? Please elaborate genuinely interested

Yes
>that nose

I'm open to learning something new, tell me what you know. I think 4chans culture is turning into something more communal and less toxic I feel it. lay it on me tell me the 3 major problems

Nice trips
Why convert to eastern orthodox tho? Pur church doctrine is still the same, but the church has been pissyfooting on major issues such as muslim invasion of europe and deliveribg its message

Maybe the Pope is really this guy. He played a Bond villain, so he has the right experience.

The wall is for the cult of Saint death, or Santa muerte - Shoebat did a a great video, Google the trailer, hell across the border.

This pope was wrong on several points, and is unquestonally a fraud. Deal with it!

we gotta get rid of the "universal church" mentality because there's barely anything in common between european catholics and spic or arab or chink catholics

God hates Nicolatians (Priestcraft, clergy), it's in Rev 2 - if you find one that's legit, it's a miracle. Ask him to confess a sin - prove he is human, and not God.

FYI - they church know/knew - but they left that sermon in Latin, to bury it!

I think the Universallity bit is taken out of context. It can be applied to all races and culture, BUT in a way specific to those races and cultures

>implying priests don't sin
What? Of course they sin, but ij the confessional during the sacrement of pennance, God speaks THROUGH them

>I think the Universallity bit is taken out of context. It can be applied to all races and culture, BUT in a way specific to those races and cultures

sadly its very often a pretext to spread liberal ideas of open borders and socialist programs

But can't we bring it back to its proper context and use it to spread our ideas?

right, that's exactly my point. Doctrine is the same, except eastern orthodox isn't fucking up on major points like that. Since the schism wasn't really theological I don't see a contradiction in converting, you're basically just getting a more militant robust version of the religion and you can still trace the roots back to Peter. If I had any hope that the Roman Catholic Church could return to its roots I would stay, and I'll return if it does but I just don't reckon it will. I suspect Benidect was ousted by the liberation theology crowd, nobody really knows wtf is going on inside the church but I have a feeling it's not good

Balaam is easy - it's the love feasts, the notion that Jesus Love You, just as you are; even though the Bible says that Grace is for the humble, but Law is for the proud, and the law brings death. You know, that wide road?

Nicolatains I very briefly touched on in the post above.

Jezebel - read what Jehu did to Jezebel, in the book of Judges. In Revelations 2, it only say what not to do, and that it's a big deal, in every church! No society has ever survived Feminism. Every society practises the witch-hunt; men are the more logical ones, and the history we got taught was a lie! I can explain the science, but it concerns Intuitive vs Logical modes of thinking, and we can fix it with education. The situation is that all the laws concerning women have all been rejected, so we're screwed, pretty much.

>join a cult that has a massive snake palace as its headquarters
>expect anything other than satan's lies

Left to right: Forked tongue path, snake eyes and old style crown on main building. St. Peters square is the distended snake belly, that is full of people when the Pope speaks. Also, it is a circle, and not a square.

Just give Satan your money, you cucks!

I understand that completely

Also reminds me, Can someone redpill me on Benidict XVI? Why did he resign?

yes, national catholicism is possible

The Pope doesn't care about any of that. As long as everyone's worshiping him, he's just fine labeling everyone a "Catholic".

>snake
Thats a pretty autistic snake, for a pretty autistic guy such as yourself :^)

Oh, these are in revelations as well? The more I hear from revelations the more I believe we are in the end times

>confessional

Ever heard of the priesthood of all believers? The guy in the frock, who gets paid for this, is somehow more of a priest than you are? If he was humble, he could think of one, and admit it.

Nicolas had a wife, who had many husbands - a christian feminist aka a witch. Church was his escapism.

This sermon was left in latin, by a priest!

"I will come against you, with the sword of my mouth" - I interpret that as verbal abuse. What's your position on sacred cows? Does God work through people? Do you intend to verbally abuse one of these sacred cows, or do you know better tHan God on this one? Protip: it seriously kicks their ass - celebrity roast - they can't handle it, being holier than thou, and what not.

So what's a Nicolatain then, and why does God hate them?

>priesthood of all believers, the guy in the frock who is paid for this is more wualified to be a priest than you
What heresy is this? Of course "the guy in the frock" is more qualified to be a priest, he goes to seminary to train for years first.
>gets paid
Whatever pay they do recieve is very minimal, usually for basic necessities, clergy are meant to live in self imposed poverty.
>holier than thou
I've bever met a priest like this they all act as messengers of God nothing more

Witches are not magic, just liars, manipulators, slanderers, gossips etc

They..
* Weaken the men
* Kill the prophets
* Establish false prophets
* Run the show, behind the scenes
* Cannot call down fire from heaven (are not magic)
* Made Elijah collapse from depression
* Never repent
* Have less (or no) children
* Carry sexual transmitted diseases
* Can only be defeated through male-on-female violence
* "witchcraft is as the sin of rebellion" - Samuel

How do you feel about hitting a women? What about a balcony toss, then dogs and horses, like it says in Judges? Notice that Jehu didn't do it himself - merely told the lads it was ok, afree which they didn't hesitate.

When a women is given in marriage, it's the right to discipline her, like a daughter. We don't punch kids in the face; but nor do we spare the rod.

=> Study Jezebel, the witch

>Impliying real masons open to these casuals

((()))

Why dont you just go Orthodox?

Mfw

Yea that guy is getting a bit screwy

Justify that slanderous statement!
By that guy, did you mean the one who wrote the bible, which I'm quoting; or me? Did I introduce you to some new information? How is that possible, when you already know everything, like God. I bet you have no sins to confess either, like Jesus. Why not refute it with a verse? You know, from the Bible? Ever heard of it?

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Think Hillary Clinton

>Finally got a non-deranged pope
>A strategic mind that knows not to bother with long lost battles
'HURRR communism!!!'

If ignorance were an artform you'd be a master without equal.

>Marxist
>Stalin
Stalin prevented communism from happening in Lenin's fucked up "vanguard state"

Also
>Christian teachings
Housing refugees and helping the poor in the third world you mean?

>Lets identify """"some"""" of the problems
Kys Burger, first try to understand the symbolism, then you'll understand that the catholics world doesn't have anything to do with christian morality.

Wtf? Of course I sin I'm happy human, and I don't know everything, case in point I made this thread to try and find some answers. Your off your rocker mate, I aint ever heard this stuff in the bible

>the communists
What was that in reference to again?

>the "refugees"
Most of these people who came under the guise of refugees aren't even from syria, iver 70% are military age men, and they always complain about decadent thing like the food not being good or whatever, If I was a refugee I would not give a shit how my food tasted.

What? I think the Church is a good vehicle for promoting christian morality would you not agree?

I've you've never heard of it, then I guess it's not a thing? I must be off my rocker! Either that, or you have serious Pride issues, and cannot be taught anything. One way to find out... can you provide a better explanation of those 3 words, given in Revelations 2?
* Nicolatains
* Jezebel
*:Balaam

Protip: all churches are like this; like you. They murder people like me, the prophets, who do know the answers. Jezebel is a female spirit, but men can have it too.

Do you have any sins, against me, that you can confess? They're not hidden, you know...

>prophets like me
Hahaha you fucking larper, look duder you sound crazy, if this is true at least try presenting this in a rational way

No no, it's your turn - you present it, and I will have a turn at mocking, like Elijah did.

Presenting what?
I don't see myself as a "prophet" like you do, I'm just saying that you sound absolutely mad right now.

Did I mention that it's in Rev 2; and also in Judges? Did you bother to read it? Google is also a thing, but like the militancy, we kinda forgot, so Google won't help you much.

Did I not predict your responses? Magic!

* Ignored
* Abused
* Change the subject
* Act like I wrote the Bible, like it's my own personal opinion.

Yea whatever autist

Thanks, I think this has been a very convincing demonstration. Notice how I didn't abuse you at all, only tried to educate... Jesus had that problem too - mostly from those religious types; you know, those ones?

He's just chilling in the subway bro. He's probably checking for his wallet.

Some copy pasta from Facebook...

Allow me to summarise the problem, as I get more concise, the more often I do this...

1. No society has ever survived Feminism. It's the most destructive force known to man - like a nuclear bomb, if we had genuinely got one of those to work, except it takes a few generations to work it's dark magic.

2. The Bible has given is some rules, pertaining to women, in order to keep us safe; but at this point, all of us, have rejected all of the rules, implying that as a society, we are well and truly screwed -absolute toast! When I try to assert any of these rules, I am universally regarded as some kind of very backwards asshole.

3. Evangalism is when you can make those bible verses more convincing, by finding logical or scientific explanations, which make sense to people who aren't religious. "Jesus says so" just doesn't cut it - blind faith is the substance of things unseen, but hard science is evidence that will stack up in a secular court of law. I'm an engineer (practical, solution orientated), who also has a solid science background - these are rare skills, it's my unique gifting, and a more mature congregation would cherish/value that; but immature dick heads feel inadequate/insecure about that, so instead they present with a spirit of murder - hence my anger and frustration at them.

4. The human brain has two modes of operation: Intuitive versus Logical. When these are used appropriately, one is distinctly superior over the other.

Cont.

Kill yourselves. Problem solved.

Ih wow thanks, for a second there I was feeling like alex jones with this shit

Intuitive is when you have no time eg an emergency, or poor quality information, and/or the quantity is overwhelming. It's quick, and slightly better than a random guess, sometimes a lot better; but it does have the key characteristic that you cannot justify or explain that decision to others.

Logical is when you can show your working, and that takes time, skills, evidence, logic, and law. It's for professionals, who preside over matters of grave importance. Politics & Law are two good examples eg if a cop blows your head off, based on "a hunch", he's probably right, but would still lose his job, and go to jail. Similarly, if you vote for attractive people, who push your buttons with nice words, then you will also get innocent people killed, and/or destroy the economy.

Now, women can be trained to think logically, yes; and Dr Sue Wilson would be an excellent example of that; and its logical that her blokey builder husband should then fold her washing, and cook dinner, since that's in the best interests of the family as a whole, and indeed society as a whole; although it's been shown that those couples have sex 20x less per year, on average. In some ways, switching traditional gender roles works like shit, makes people unhappy etc. The key point is that in heaven (maturity), there is no gender.

In the traditional gender roles, men are required to be more logical (kill vs. not kill); and similarly, women are required to be more intuitive (can I trust this guy around my kids - who knows). So women make snap judgements, which are of no great consequence, and it works fine. However, knowing they can't justify their decisions, they tend to rely heavily on social validation from other women, so as to not seem nuts - so there are very strong cultural factors that come into play.

In an ideal christian society, gender equality is achieved through years of marriage (good husband), and/or with a good upbringing (good fathers); because the Intuitive situations are not very common - mostly we need logic, ie to be like Spock. A Just Judge must set aside his emotions, and not be swayed by fine-sounding bullshit from pretty girls. In a healthy marriage, the goal is to have two mums and two dad's - redundancy, in case one parent is unavailable. For example, women often get mugged at the supermarket, and since her husband is at work, it falls on her to be the man, and kick his ass! Dad's also need to be sensitive.

The world says: men & women are equal, end of story - and that's just utter bullshit. So we give women the vote, regardless of their ability to think rationally, and justify their decisions. The result is 500k dead christians in Syria, a destroyed economy, soaring crime etc - and people still think Obama is a lovely man.

I've got male friends who are basically chicks - guys that I really like, who I would not hesitate to execute at this point, if I could, because I consider them to have the intelligence of dumb animals, because they signed off on war crimes, to maintain their social status. Drew Cormack, if you want a name.

This then raises the question: was Pinochet wrong to throw lefties from helicopters; or was he a hero? What about the Jews who know about this problem, and exploit it ruthlessly, in order to basically kill all of us, and steal our shit?

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As an Apostle, it's my job to propose a fix, and one such fix is to require voters to pass a test of logical thinking, as with a driver's license. Another is that the church need an internal military police, to uphold Gods law, and execute Justice (Pastors are literally a law unto themselves; and even the role is a fraud). In particular, the laws concerning women must be enforced, and any sort of modernisation needs to take account of science, like the voting proposal, and not just be about rights. There's more ideas, but it's already too late - it's pretty much Noahs Ark time, unfortunately

That defeats the point of Catholicism ya goof

Ok thanks, I get were your coming from now. If you explain it like that its much better before it felt like a personal attack

I completely agree with you on the women issue in society and the break up of the family

Note also the practical example of why women, acting in the role of mums, can judge and write off a man - and this is quite acceptable, since they are merely erring on the side of caution - access to her kids is a privilege, not a right; and to the man, it's inconsequential. However, when those judgements are accompanied by severe consequences, as with a convicted sex offender - totally different story! To that extent, the left-leaning, Intuitive nature of women's thinking is connected to biological roles; but it's not necessarily inherent, or their destiny. However, if she does want to be a doctor or judge, it will directly conflict with her natural biological role.

>That pic
Meanwhile in reality

For fuck sake Sup Forums you can see jewish plot in a fucking Gambian election but to see the oldest and the most obvious one i.e. discredit Catholic Church you are not able? Get your shit together.

>I'm Catholic but I don't go to church because mine has become too liberal.

No you are not you are a protestant , you are protesting the church becomming to liberal

luigi gets it and trips, mason have a home run with cc from 16th century

this was literally in poland

There's no high conspiracy or anything (that I know of). The explanation of this 'commie pope' is simple. Here a sector of the church mixed the Social Doctrine of the Church with Marxism (yeah they fucked up), a movement called Curas del Tercer Mundo (priests of the third world) during the Cold War, so maybe he feeds from these ideals, or at least he has a similar rethoric.

Personally I have mixed thoughts about him. but this board shouldn't dismiss Francis so quickly, because what he basically says is that capitalism is going to shit for this simple reason: productivity is getting higher, while wages are getting lower. The elites invest solely in finaces and not in job creation (a George Soros vs Henry Ford, to give you an example). Also jobs are getting wiped out too quickly and they are not getting replaced, mainly because of communists countries like China, and automation that is waiting right in the corner.
He says that Third World War has already started, and the main motive for this war will be jobs.
No one gave a shit back when he said it, but when you see Trump wanting to start a trade war with China, you start to realize he is kind of right.
He says that Europe will suffer the most in the future because of this (I share the same feeling, it won't be a race war preciselly). Europe, minus UK I guess, will not be capable of sustain its welfare state and high wages.

What I don't understand is the way he handles his image, he should have being more critic of Obama and Euro elites, and more open to Trump (since in the end they think the same). Also his support of refugees, that's something I don't understand at all. Not even talking about the degenerates that parasite him.
Overall, mixed feelings.

>That defeats the point of Catholicism ya goof

believing we're all equal defeats our homelands , as you're seeing

Catholisim is the perfection of Judaism according to the Catholic Church.

You're literal Jews.

Fuck off Christcucks.

catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jesus-was-a-jew-why-are-we-catholic

Good call! The church has fallen!

Did you know...
* The old testament is a covenant, a marriage, God walked down the asile, Jews on one side, angels on the other...
* New Testament is another covenant, another marriage, old vs new bride, marriage supper of the lamb etc
* Fatima is a third covenant, or at least it was meant to be. France left him standing at the alter for 100 years - to the day; then french revolution, kings beheaded etc. King was busy with a war, you see - what would God know about that stuff? With Russia, who is orthodox, he still wants a Catholic wedding - you know what catholics are like... So it's been 99.5 years, and 4 attempts. Why not consecrate the world to the sacred Heart of Mary - more inclusive you see, like an open marriage.
* we've never had a year of Mercy before. Mercy precedes Justice! Sword of my Mouth just turned into the sword of the Islamic Caliphate. I guess God is done with being a Catholic - same as you!

forgot to add, Trump is portrayed by the globalist media as 'populist', the same way Francis was portrayed as the 'populist pope'

Any comments on that last post?
Are we still fixing the church; or are we thinking maybe it might be time to bug out? Strategic withdrawal, should I say... Sort of like Noahs Ark...

>Create symbol that represent God as Trinity (hence triangle) that it easy to remember and use and it's fucking easy to interpret
>hundreds years later Masons stole it
>Hence all who use it are masons
You are fucking stupid you know that?

>God as Trinity (hence triangle) that it easy to remember and use and it's fucking easy to interpret
>>hundreds years later Masons stole it

you are literally retarted or simply intelectually dishonest as a SJW if you manage to persuade yourself to belive that

>MOTHERFUCKING EYE OF HORUS
>representing anything other than Satan

>MOTHERFUCKING EYE OF HORUS
>anything to to with christianity

Good analysis. Two points:
>What I don't understand is the way he handles his image
He don't do this. I mean, he don't handle his image at all. What do you think is his image it's a mass media narrative. Will you hear from them that he said that Gays are baned from entering seminaries for all of eternity? No, he will be named LGBTQ pope. Will you hear from them that he want to purge masons? No, you will hear that5 he is cryptocommie. Will you hear from them that he names mass media and those who listen to them coprophiles and coprophags? No, you will hear that he dismiss fake news.
>Also his support of refugees
He is just too kind and too forgiving. He took "love thy neighbor" to absurd level. He want to be like Mother Theresa. But Mother Theresa dealed with poo-in-loos and we deal with sandniggers.
So you telling me, that there are Jews-Chosen People and Jews-Scums that we know and love to hate like Rothschild et co. And we are the first one and have nothing to do with the second. Wow, truly enlightening.

By this logic, you my dear Burger and Trump are absolutly the same people like Hillary, Podesta and Obongo becouse you can be named "Americans". Errorus est.
>you are literally retarted or simply intelectually dishonest as a SJW if you manage to persuade yourself to belive that
Since when SJW belive IN A FUCKING RECORDED HISTORY YOU GOOD FUCKING FORGOTEN IDIOT?

AND SINCE WHEN Eye of Providence looks like Eye of Horus beside fact, that they are BOTH EYES. You are so intellectually dishonest, that if you would apply this logic to let's say BIBLE you would deduct that Moses and God himself are satanist for MAKEING SATUE OF SNAKE.

>AND SINCE WHEN Eye of Providence looks like Eye of Horus beside fact, that they are BOTH EYES. You are so intellectually dishonest, that if you would apply this logic to let's say BIBLE you would deduct that Moses and God himself are satanist for MAKEING SATUE OF SNAKE.

what are you babbling about, eye of horus/eye is an egiptian occult symbol

And it looks nothing like Eye of Providence you stupid nigger.

Also, two can play this game. You see your flag? It has chessboard on it. And Chessboard is known ocult mason symbol. Hence, Croatia is Masonic cult. freemasons-freemasonry.com/esotericism_chess.html

>And it looks nothing like Eye of Providence you stupid nigger.

truth only if you are blind

>It has chessboard on it. And Chessboard is known ocult mason symbol.

>5x5 red and white or silver with round underbelly
>chessboard

and yes, chessboard is a masonic symbol, maybe the designers of oru flag were masons, Im not a cheerleader when it suits me.

I am shocked that no-one has added a cock to this video of the pope. It is simply crying out for a photoshopped cock.

I was born catholic, I was bapticed and all that shit.

I am not catholic, I don't want to call myself catholic without doing the rituals and following the code they have. It's egoistic and hypocrite to call yourself catholic and not following the rules they have.

That aside, my family is mostly catholic and I am very worried about the new pope. He has a left/commie tendency and I hope that mentality send the Catholicism to another dark age.

Let's hope for the best and if you are a true catholic (not like me), keep doing your thing and raise your family with catholic values and morals.

embrace the junglenigger religion of your ancestors

pece

No you're wrong. I've been to good traditional Catholic mass. My local church is trying to be mainstream however.

I never said anything of that sort.

>truth only if you are blind
No, you incompetent nigger. Eye of providence and eye of horus have only one fucking thing in common. They are eyes. They don't look similar even. For fuck sake, eye of Horus is right eye, Eye of Providence is not right nor left. It doesn;t have this stupidass lines benift it either. But belive what you want you stupidass niger. Just don't talk about it, you make glorius natiopn of Croatia looks like monkeys.

>5x5 red and white or silver with round underbelly
>chessboard

I used the same logic that you used. See how stupid it is? You could give me ANY symbol and I will find occult of pagan usege of it. You are fucking delusional or undergae.

>Eye of providence

have you ever honestly asked yourself what on Earth does "Eye of providence" mean?

Is that term even slightly mentioned in the Bible? And dont give me the generic answer because it does not represent the Holy Spirit or God.