Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Owen Bennett
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists
Luke Williams
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Grayson Moore
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Colton Miller
Anyone with questions, feel free to ask them.
Zachary Thompson
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Blake Gutierrez
Daily reminder that Strasserite National Socialism is best National Socialism
Ethan Taylor
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Ayden Campbell
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Jonathan Kelly
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Landon Anderson
Spics can't be facist
Logan Young
Why do you think so?
Aaron Harris
I don't know. I just really hate spics, they are destroying this country.
Mason Turner
Any race can be fascist, there is no racialism inherent in fascism.
Thomas King
I condemn their actions too, you have a birth right to your lands and they are currently disputing them with no right to do so. When I see them in the news with their signs of "Make america mexico again" i feel deeply ashamed, they should realize that they represent a whole nation and that their actions discredit us.
Kevin Gutierrez
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Landon Gonzalez
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Aiden Kelly
I hate Mexicans in America too. I don't hate Mexicans in Mexico. Ergo I can't hate Mexican fascists. Hopefully they purge the cartels brutally and with liberal use of painful deadly force.
Zachary Moore
Hell yeah, we should just go full-on Duterte on those bastards.
Adam Bell
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Luis Baker
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Ryder Diaz
Finally a good thread
Brandon Perez
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Angel Bennett
Remember to always be gaslighting liberals. Use their language against them.
Chase Johnson
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Liam Davis
argie here
argentinian fascism aka peronism destroyed our country and filled it with niggers unable to work or speak rationally. Looting at every chance they get and just fucking shit up everywhere.
It's still in full effect today and it sucks major balls.
Trust me. Fascism, not even once.
Cooper Murphy
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Adrian Sullivan
I'm interested, tell me more.
Bentley Phillips
What's wrong with legal spics? Excluding those Chicanos who wave Mexican flags at Anti-Trump rallies.
Oliver Murphy
I would suggest that you read this and the four paragraphs after the OP, I you have any questions after that please ask them.
Blake Gray
m8 I know what fascism is. I'm asking about the Argentinian guy.
Class collaboration, and the umbrella corporations directed by government. The efficiency makes me hard.
I really dislike how Hitler tarnished fascism, as did Mussolini by aligning himself. The fucking racists completely destroyed any legitimacy Fascist ideology once had (which was enormous)
Jaxson Fisher
Well ultranationalism is a central pillar of fascism, (along with corpratism and totalitarianism), and ethnocentrism (if not Racial LARPing a la Hitler) is an important part of nationalism. Mussolini was well-known for mocking Hitler's racial theories, but he still believed in an Italian Italy.
Joseph Gutierrez
Had the nazis and axis succeeded we both know how great the world would be now. We are all natural allies, it took near the entire world to stop the axis, and now we live in a world that is ran by (((them)))
Jacob Phillips
The jews tarnished Fascism.
Nazi Germany was a paradise
Cameron Morgan
These threads have too little images. I'll dump what I have.
Landon Barnes
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Leo Taylor
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Ayden Reed
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Wyatt Jenkins
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Robert Williams
>muh class collaboration meme Top fucking kek, do you really want a strong state 'collaborating' with the corporate elite? Do you really think that's a good idea?
All fascist states are good for is banning trade unions and arresting agitators. Oh yeah and lots of money spent on weapons (naturally the working class will be the ones using them and getting killed
Dominic Stewart
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Carter Allen
>LARPing
Anthony Nelson
The failures of the military tarnished fascism.
Italy was unprepared and both Germany and Japan stood no chance agaisnt the rest of the world.
The Brits had the right idea by promoting peace for the preservation of fascism and Europe.
Adam Walker
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Samuel Brooks
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Leo Hernandez
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Joshua Thomas
Last one help me out.
Owen Sanders
I feel bad for Mexicans who stay in Mexico. It seems like all of your younger men and women who should be working to improve the lives of everyone in your country flock to America for free gibs.
Ryan Powell
Castizos can be
Nicholas Torres
> banning trade unions
What was the Vidoni pact?
Who was Edmondo Rossoni?
What was the Vertical Syndicate?
Xavier Sanders
>argentinian fascism aka peronism I'm gonna stop you right there. Peron paid a little bit of lip service to fascist ideas as much as he did to commie ideas (where do you think Montoneros and associated filth came from?). He was a filthy opportunist, an ideological chameleon who would say anything and support anyone if it got him power and wealth.
Kayden Allen
Why do you cuck for foreign ideologies? I like Mosley but there's a reason he wasn't successful here.
Logan Richardson
There is no "corporate elite" in a fascist state, the state regulated against that from happening
>NOW FOR THE LONG EXPLANATION Corporatism can be defined as a system of interest representation in which the constituent units are organized into a limited number of singular, compulsory, noncompetitive, hierarchically ordered and functionally differentiated categories, recognized or licensed (if not created) by the state and granted a deliberate representational monopoly within their respective categories in exchange for observing certain controls on their selection of leaders and articulation of demands and supports. Corporatism places the worker's guild within it while relatively retaining the autonomy of the workers and placing them in collaboration rather than conflict with their bosses. In forcing the workers and the bosses to cooperate and allowing the councils to represent themselves in arbitration via the labor courts, the class struggle is alleviated without the need for general strikes and demonstrations. Furthermore, the place of state becomes one of oversight, deciding for instance which goods are considered harmful to the nation and banning their production.
Luke Price
That reason was the current government banning the party
Jason Perry
The root cause is governmental corruption, no one who is in a position of power in Mexico right now is doing anything other than using public power for self benefit, they are not doing anything for the benefit of the nation, the government is simply not working, at all.
Kevin Clark
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Juan Fisher
you know this is bs
Justin Richardson
Actually fascism is perhaps the one international ideology that emphasizes embracing the national character of the particular nation. It's why LARPers in non-German nations that dress like Brownshirts and speak German are idiots. American Fascism must be different from British Fascism must be different from Italian Fascism must be different from Japanese Fascism... etc.
Mosley understood that quite well actually, and his brand of Fascism was quite distinct from the Italians and Germans, both in aesthetic and substance. He embraced the national character of the UK.
Eli White
Why is Nietzsche a fascist? And do you think that fascism could save Mexico and deal with the cartels?
Robert Moore
Naturally they make up stories to tell the working class of how suppression of labour is a good thing
Benjamin Taylor
The NatSocs have nothing to do with the things I posted.
Leo Ortiz
Really makes me think
Xavier Wood
No, lad. The government didn't ban the party until the war.
We're an odd bunch, us Brits. Marching men in military uniforms may be all the rage for you yanks and the continentals, but not for us. We like to poke fun at things. Mosley and his uniformed Blackshirts were seen as both an importation of an ideology alien to the Anglo-Saxon nature of liberty (Fascism) as well as LARPers. After the Battle of Cable Street in particular he was widely ridiculed. He actually realised these things later on life, you can look up his interviews.
Mosley would've been much better off staying in government. He could've been Prime Minister. But he threw it all away so he could LARP as an Italian.
Ian Rivera
Also, I don't think the have "free gibs" in mind when they leave, most of them come from places where the work market is nonexistent, because the cartels prey on every part of the economy and the government works with them to get quick cash and to keep the population under control. Business owners are constantly threatened with death and extorted for money so no jobs can be created and the government refuses to establish order.
Levi Powell
>we're reaching levels of exploitation that shouldn't even be possible
Connor Russell
But the problem is, Fascism itself is inherently alien to the Anglo-Saxon spirit. Don't get me wrong, I hate the Jews and all, but as a system of governance, it will never work here.
Personally I'm in favour of a system where Parliament is a check on the King (said King being uncucked) and this Parliament being made up nationalists. It's not too difficult to implement and it satisfies our simultaneous desire to have both liberty and law and order.
Ian Price
I honestly doubt he was a full Christian.
Also Rosenburg, Himmler, Ley and Schirach spoke against Christianity as being un Germanic.
Elijah Kelly
How do you think Fascism is alien to the Anglo-Saxon spirit? Not arguing, genuinely curious.
Liam Reed
Thats what I meant, the party was banned once the war came about. They weren't larping at all, Mosleyite fascism is not the same as Italian, sure maybe they wore the same blackshirts but the ideology was not carbon copy. Fascism is meant to be adapted and molded to fit every countrys current situation and needs, Italian fascism would not work ideally for another country, and the same goes for each other countrys version of fascism for themselves.
Bentley Lee
>Also, under Fascism, if a person doesn't like things, he/she can leave the country
Hilarious, even if this laughable nuance were true, what option is that for the oppressed party? where does an Anarchist go to escape the unrelenting imposition of another mans ideals? Nobody needs your gangs protection, the Fascist criminals in power have always been responsible for far more atrocities than would have been possible had they not had armies at their disposal.
I encourage you to make your views publicly known.
Benjamin Collins
>communism Yeah you can keep your famines to yourself.
Mason Collins
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Camden Stewart
Mussolini was too ambitious for his own good. He thought he could piggy back off Hitler's initial successes in the war for big gains and it backfired. Mussolini really should've stayed neutral and kept building Italy up.
Samuel Barnes
Explain to me why the authoritarian ideal benefits the people. And do it without talking about the JQ.
Christopher Williams
Thread gets a bump. Come join us over here also no more faggot lefties.
Wyatt Perry
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Brody Morris
They leave the country, or they face persecution. Anarchists, communists, Marxists, all deserve the rope. There is no room for such filth anywhere in the world, plaguing man with their soulless, lawless ideologies.
Brody Davis
One can find truth in Fascism
Daniel Turner
Simple, keep out degenarcy and keep society socially pure and moral. Which results in happy, healthy lifestyles.
Connor White
It's hard to explain, I guess, especially since our current situation as a police state is contrary to what we've historically been. But in a nutshell, we've always had a love of liberty that would never enable us to submit to a totalitarian government. Indeed, the American Founding Fathers, being Anglo-Saxon themselves, inherited this. Of course, your love of liberty manifests itself in Republicanism - independence from a distant monarch. Ours manifests itself in defending our way of life and our island from anything perceived to foreign in the slightest. This is where Mosley fell down - as much as he tried, he could never shake the accusation that Fascism was un-British.
>Thats what I meant, the party was banned once the war came about. They were operating for almost a decade beforehand and got nowhere. Mosley could've been PM by the time the war started if he hadn't been autistic and left the government.
>They weren't larping at all, Mosleyite fascism is not the same as Italian It certainly didn't look that way. They were, after all, Blackshirts - modeled on the Italians. They didn't have their own colour like other nations did. It was essentially LARPing when you look at it like that.
Adrian Brooks
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Juan Brooks
>hey m8 what motivates you to fight in politics? >the desire for a high share of income to go to capitalists
I love it senpai
Nathan Powell
>ironmarch
Tyler Gomez
Unfriended fascists, btfo
Camden Phillips
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Levi Baker
Are you saying facists fight for capitalism?
Grayson Cooper
>giving commies (you)s
Camden Perry
See pic here: Also Because It is necessary to prevent people from acting in ways that are detrimental to the welfare of the nation. I know this is a good idea, in a country as lawless as Mexico an effective and strict enforcement of the rule of law is urgently needed.
Establishing peace, security, and community? Pretty obvious how that helps the people, as they crave safety and stability above all else. They'll talk about how they love freedom, but the freedoms they use would be untouched. They still get to go about their lives, work, play, own weapons and spend their free time as they please, have families and raise them as they see fit, live where they like, speak about the government, speak about business, participate in government (though in a different manner than the current universal ballot box), and in general be a human being.
'Freedom' is freedom for the criminals, freedom for the drug pushers, freedom for the capitalists, freedom for the insurrectionists, and yes, freedom for the parasites.
I absolutely agree, America is a nation founded on frontiersmen and explorers. Independence and personal freedom is quite essential to our spirit. I'm not a euro, so I can't speak much for you. There is nothing, however, inherent in fascism that contradicts this spirit. I agree Mosley was a bit of a LARPer, even if I personally like him. He tried to make Britain fascist, as opposed to making fascism British. But I think you'll find that many American fascists at least take quite a few leaves from the founding fathers, who contrary to popular belief were not all too crazy about universal suffrage and indeed modelled their democracy more off of a Roman Republican. I think what you're doing is confusing criticisms of fascism with criticisms of fascists. That's just my opinion though.
Brayden Jenkins
Useful idiots
Jack Barnes
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Benjamin Fisher
Maybe so, perhaps they should've came up with their own look, but really the only thing was the uniforms, blackshirts. They developed their own symbol and version of the ideology.
Chase Clark
M8 ironmarch is pretty secure, it has its retardation but I doubt its a honeypot. It took me nearly a week and a half to get my account approved to post.
Josiah Robinson
>soulless lawless ideologies
This epitomises your indoctrination, for you, 'legal' is synonymous with 'moral' and 'illegal' with 'immoral'.
Set aside some time to research/understand Anarchism, don't reject an ideology because you don't understand it.
Try reading 'The Most Dangerous Superstition'.
Landon Brown
>Are you saying facists fight for capitalism? Your_brain_on_communism.jpg
