Do you guys just support ironically or what?

Do you guys just support ironically or what?
I mean... You can't be serious

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HE'S A HIGH CLASS SHITPOSTER

Cool meme Sharia sympathizer

62,980,160 is a lot of ironic votes.

> Trump
> A conservative
Try harder

I mean Sup Forums not everyone in america.

>pol is one person

Dumbfuckistan, what's up

I'm just hanging on to see where the ride takes us. I was hoping for Rubio, afraid we'd get Clinton. Instead we got an ascended grandmaster internet troll. It's going to be glorious.

It's not about muslims. a LOT of his policies are liberal. Tarrifs is a very liberal idea. He advocated for socialized healthcare. He is against american unilateral behavior in international politics.

I mean, more importantly though. You elected a reality tv host as president who has zero experience with politics. Why don't you just make the cake boss your mayor while you are at it.

I mean, the man Baneposted and Rickrolled his own inaugural address!

He said he's conservative as far as in 1990.

He didn't actually run as a conservative.

Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”

Scott Pelley: Universal health care.

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/

Donald Trump: If you look at actually raise, some very wealthy are going to be raised. Some people that are getting unfair deductions are going to be raised. But overall it’s going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we’re going to take in the same or more money. And I think we’re going to have something that’s going to be spectacular.

Scott Pelley: But Republicans don’t raise taxes.

Donald Trump: Well, we’re not raising taxes.

Scott Pelley: What kind of Republican are you?

Donald Trump: I mean the only, well, I’m a pretty good Republican. But, I will tell you this, I do have some differences. I don’t want to have certain people on Wall Street getting away with paying no tax.

The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.

I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.

It’s not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.

newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512

Don't bother, the trump cultists are fucking retarded.

fair enough

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>liberal
>conservative
He's a pro-life socially-liberal centrist like Democrats used to be and like Republicans should be. Why is that a bad thing?

He's a classical liberal in the sense that he's a liberal up to a point, like any sane man. Western culture has gone beyond that point now. Actually wanting to go back to that point only makes you a conservative in a relative sense. Trump is nothing like a far-conservative.

25 %?

this guy is a moron, he's a fucking celebrity play boy.

he doesnt know shit about politics if you havent figured that out already.

And providing healthcare coverage for everyone is bad because?

Because he is dangerously unstable.

ask the people who controlled your markets until 1989

Liberal Positions: supports lgbtq+, supports immigration, supports socialized healthcare, supports taxes on the wealthy, supports mult-national intervention in the middle east, supports tarrifs, against intelligence agencies

Conservative views: Suddenly against abortion

yup, sounds pretty centrist to me.

Its going to be four years of this bullshit. You're going to have thinking people stomping on their hats because of how obscenely stupid this man is, and functionally illiterate people will be watching him like "oh yea finally someone who makes sense!"

President Trump. House. Senate. Supreme Court. Nobody cares what you think anymore. Stop literally shaking.

nothing, but I'm a liberal.
I'm not worried about trump all that much because trump is wildly liberal. It just blows my mnds that republicans were suckered THIS BAD. I mean, let alone its just a reality tv star. That is just abhorant all on its own, but the fact they elected a liberal reality tv star is just madness.

House and Senate may by conservative, but trump sure as fuck not. Even his nominations are not exactly the most conservative. One is a hollywood jew, the woman who is going to be secretary of education put on a broadway play criticizing megachurchs and owns a renewable energy company. All the actual republcans were put in positions that they have zero experience in. Ben Carson in housing? I'm sure he will be effective in that role... he.. lives in a house...

Democratic views aren't liberal views you fucking American. There's nothing liberal about tariffs.

You are making predictions, and that's fine, but your predicitions and statistics and odds have not served you well these past 18 months.

Nope

Nobody in Bulgaria has to pay 1 million dollars for an antidote in 2017. And besides, cheap heathcare is not an exclusively communist thing. You can own a business while being medically covered.

Trump's not extreme enough for me, to be honest.

He's still better than all the other major candidates, though.

This. I think you should read a book.

Liberal ideals focus on liberty. How is a bigger government and more welfare helping liberty?

>just a reality tv star

This is an intentional misconception that leftists use to smear him (and some buy it up, because they never consume any alternative media).

Trump has over 200 successful businesses. His reality show was literally just a side-gig compared to all those.

And equality? Please tell me more about it

A large portion of Sup Forums is literally NatSoc. We support elements of government welfare, but we're also nationalistic and ethnocentric.

There are many political parties in Europe that are like this. True Finns and Front National are two examples.

>muh left-right paradigm

What's with all the shill threads on Sup Forums today?

The shia sheep.

He is empirically the stupidest president we've ever had. Never in American history have we had such dumb brainlet in office.

>Barack Obama IQ 140
>Trump IQ < 120
THIS is what makes him a "man of the people."

He doesn't believe in climate change

proofs?

Your pic is not related, and is based on assumptions taken from the Presidents' writings and speeches. It doesn't even have Trump or Obama on it.

I'm not sure if you're being ironic, but Barack Obama's IQ is not even close to 140. His ACT score of 30 is absolute garbage - my little sister beat it and she's 15 and lazy. He locked up his grades at Columbia because he did so poorly and only got in because of AA.

Trump is not a Conservative he is a 90s democrat

>Obama 140

I think you missed a decimal there, Shaka.

>1.40

>Trump has over 200 successful businesses

Buying a business, and plastering your name on it doesn't make you a businessman. It makes you a brand name.
The few businesses where he's actually gotten his hands dirty and tried to run himself have failed pretty badly.

I'm not making predictions. That is literally what trump literally said and done.

Donald Trump said Friday he doesn't care about prosecuting Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, after attendees at his rally chanted "lock her up."

After the chants started at the President-elect's post-election "thank you" rally in Michigan, he responded, "That plays great before the election -- now we don't care, right?"

>You elected a reality tv host as president who has zero experience with politics

Smartest thing Americans have done in a long time. All the real politicians are already bought and they're completely illiterate of anything other than schmoozing and getting gears to turn in politics. They gobble down whatever trite crap they hear about economics and quake in their boots if voters so much as whisper discontent.

Trump's doesn't give a shit about nonsense like deficits and he's claimed he's not going to keep feeding people the shit sandwich that is globalism and pretending a few middle class dicks profiting off slave labor is great for the unemployed.

>90s Democrat

He's actually more like a Pat Buchanan-style Republican.

Buchanan was right-wing, but opposed globalism, unlike Reagan and the Bushes. He was also more friendly towards unions.

He's also subtly white nationalist, and has a copy of Mein Kampf in his personal library. LOL

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

I supported all of the things he actually said during his campaign. If his message was true, he was clearly the best for the job.

donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-delivers-groundbreaking-contract-for-the-american-vote1

Prove he didn't run those himself.

Shh dont reveal our secrets dude CNN might find out

better than all the alternatives. plus as you've seen (and personally experienced it seems) he pisses off the most people too.

Trump is Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul's revenge rolled into one.

Most conservatives start as liberals

Yeah I love the AA program that gives black people the presidency. Fucking christ you people are retarded

remind me again how trump identifies even remotely with national socialism?
Is it his comment about how he intends to open up immigration? Or his support for LBGTQ? How about multi national action as opposed to american lead foreign policy?
It didn't matter what trump said. What matters more is what you FEEL trump says and he played on your feels because you are so fucking naive that you couldn't see pass an orange guy who tried to rebrand steaks

The answer is:
It doesn't matter. There is a 100% chance of Kebab removal

He's an independent

Buchanan was unfairly smeared for possessing a copy of Mein Kampf.

youtu.be/hHos_EuUFgU?t=299

It's an important historical work and was relevant to his book "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War".

The key difference between the two is Trump's lack of social conservatism and cultural concerns. He isn't as much of a hawk on immigration either, it would seem.

If he's so liberal, why are liberals so against him?

Yes, they arrived to politics by way of GAMERGATE. You can spot them easily enough, they will throw a sleight at SJWs in every sentence.

You need proof that a single man can run 200 businesses all by himself, simultaneously? I think I need proof you're not retarded.

Also, I think you need to show me your proof that he actually owns 200 businesses.
Please show us his tax returns as proof.

uh huh, because... ya know... he totally doesnt depend on international trade and that slave labor for his own businesses.
I'm real real sure that trump is this saintly billionaire who is going to get into office and his hotel chain be damned! He is not going to support all that globalism that a hotel chain definitely depends on because he just loves you so much and loves america. Loves america so much that he married a good old fashioned american woman!

lol, christ, you fucks kill me.

Ted Cruz please get off of Sup Forums

Well liberals actually won Trump the victory. Most of Bernie's base which was working class white males who had previously voted for Democrat, switched to Trump.

He supports trade protectionism.
He supports manufacturing unions (the actual working class)
He supports restricted immigration.
He supported national healthcare, like you mentioned.
He's anti-SJW and anti-political correctness.
He's literally got an "America first" policy and reminded the globalist cucks of it in his inaugural address. The leftist media flipped-out about it and called his speech "hateful", lol.

>he's le orange
Classic sign of a pissy leftist.

mainly because he has zero experience. Liberals know that being president doesn't make you a king and if you actually want to get anything done in office it helps if you went to a school with a good reputation and studied government or public policy. You know, had a few years of public service under your belt as a senator congressman, even a mayor or governor so you understand the process of passing laws and acts. shit like that ya know, instead of just some random rich guy, even if he is liberal as fuck.

Considering most modern conservatives are the kind of zealots Goldwater warned us about, I'm alright with this

I know, I was just being cheeky.

He did make some legit criticisms of the Holocaust, though.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#Charges_of_antisemitism_and_Holocaust_denial

He shat on the "muh diesel exhaust" claim.

Hey look a smart guy (TM) on the internet. Back to plebbit faggot

>pro-tariff
>non-interventionalist
>national socialist
All reasons I voted for him desu, I don't really give a fuck what political label you attach to me for it

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Maybe what you need to understand is that the opinions and policies which constitute "liberal" and "conservative" schools of thought change with time.

Liberalism used to be more like contemporary libertarianism.
Conservativism was moral traditionalism.

Now the "liberals" or left of this country are stooges of globalists and multiculturalism who advocate actual facist principles while decrying their opponents as Nazis.
And the "conservatives" are fast becoming a coalition of the sane that include various ideologies with similar goals: protection of national borders and sovereignty, advocation of traditional American liberal freedoms.

The leadership of both left and right though are all corporatist globalists, though.

Yeah, Buchanan's great. Before "redpilling" was a thing he was redpilling traditionalists and those on the right, centrists even, and notably, Dr. Kevin MacDonald.

He opposed the Gulf War and tried to ensure the US wasn't seen as responding to the Israeli lobby and its "amen corner" in DC. Great guy.

>falling for the false left/right dichotomy

Now you're going to tell me the Holocaust happened too right?

"I'm a Liberal I'm going to complain a Liberal is in charge of the Republican Party".

Where's the logic in this? This in Trump's favour.

>Literally most hated man in the world right now
>president of United States
>living 8 more years

pick 2

>trade protectionism is a liberal cause
>supporting unions is a liberal cause
>his immigration policy is to kick out illegals only to put them in a path towards full citizenship through amnesty. significantly increasing legal immigration

lol, anti-sjw


Donald Trump: Transgender People Should "Use the Bathroom That They Feel Is Appropriate"

He knew the Superdelegate system would never let him win.

Reverse the Republican and Democratic primary rules, and Bernie would have beaten Jeb in the election

>he thinks that the conservatives are actually conservative economically
Lmao I'm pretty much a socialist economically, unironically. I just care about social issues, and I am right wing on them.

Haha yeah like those genius liberals running Chicago and Detroit who went through the approved mechanisms to be become politicians. They did a great job.

It's really kind of nice though. First it was denial, then incredulity, then rage, now it's concern. I like you faggots go through the stages

dont take credit for trump
liberals have contributed nothing its all a bunch of scams and history rewriting

you realize that politics and politicians exist on a realm outside of your arguments on facebook and comments on youtube?

Everyone is a conservative compared to the loudest voices of the left now, that is why they lost.

>didn't answer any of my points and misread my last sentence
>doesn't realize the power of identity politics and how minorities overwhelmingly vote for people of their own skin color
"Fucking christ you people are retarded"

Do you realize there's a dichotomy between textbook definitions and how those labels are applied by retards in real life?

youtube.com/watch?v=DDUdZaftjw4

Trump has been doing great job stopping all that sjw bullshit, mirite?

Trump uses what he can to his advantage. Switching from republican to democrat or vice versa for that sake is not a surprise. besides, they're two sides of the same coin anyway. Both establishments were against him. He's not a tradtional consevative though, I will give you that. and that is a good thing.

Sup Forums has become the biggest SJW that ever existed

ITT: People arguing that trump is great for the economy because of his business acumen and free trade policies.
AND
People arguing that trump is great of the economy because of protectionism and isolationist policies

Neither can tell that they don't actually know what trump stands for but both are very sure that they are right and voted for him.

my sides.

Lel, libtards using sjw as a pejorative now. I like seeing you fags dissolve yourselves.

triggered much?

He said himself that he took advantage of the rules as they were instituted by the globalists. That's what you do in business you idiot.

What's with all the shills misusing the ellipsis?

No, like I said I like it. You fags have backed yourselves into a corner and now you're cutting off your limbs to use as weapons

I dont get it. If this was true, then why are liberals protesting him if he's "one of them"?

and now, since he doesn't have like a hotel chain or any other business he is totally going to close those loopholes because the profits of his business is not as important as YOU! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
If anyone should be president to close loopholes that allow the ultra wealthy to profit off foreign labor its a billionaire who is serving as president while concurrently having his children run his hotel chain!
yeah!
that makes sense!