The only people who have it right are the centrists. Both libtards and right-wing neo-whatever-the-fucks have invented caricatures of each other to loudly and publicly resist/protest. But I guess if you keep fighting a fake enemy, someone will eventually show up to fill the part.
Modern politics is a bunch of separate echo chambers raging about invented and exaggerated situations... With occasional antagonism.
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You didn't say what is good about centrists. Say what you want about national socialism, at least it's an ethos.
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Centrism is kind of a natural state. Following the last eight years of polarizing politics coming from every single liberal media/political establishment, people have been lead to believe that the only way to invoke change is to pick a fucking side. There isn't anything inherently good about centrism... But there are attributes of polarized political models which are inherently bad...
Listen m8, youre as much a faggot as everybody else on this board. You still think finding the best "-ism" matters more than pragmatic policies.
Indeed. But unless you categorize and define it, other faggots won't know how to think about it. It's an anti-ism, really.
Two centrists could genuinely disagree on almost everything, yet still be ideologically correct. Centrism is kind of impotent by default mate, at best it's an advocate to defend the status quo.
Master Race reporting in.
I'm a big Trump supporter and I want to gas leftists. But I also think both sides are fucking nuts and this country is tearing itself apart over lunacy.
Having moderate political views doesn't necessarily imply impotence. In fact, I would argue the contrary. Having the gall to declare that both sides are pandering lunatics takes a ball or two. Centrism allows for intellectual diversity and compromise.
Both extreme ends of the political spectrum need to reign in their insanity a little fucking bit.
This. Centrists never enact change because there is no ideology they belong to, yet they are the most concerned with facts and truth for the same reason. Great journalists, but ineffective revolutionaries.
There is nothino polarizing about the parties.
We don't have genuine communists pushing to make half out gdp government spending like it isn't in france, and we don't have proti libertarians looking to scale governmentioned back ton under 10% of gdp.
If you are a "centrist" it means you support left of center taxation and left of center restrictions on personal freedom. This is because we live in a society so eft leaning the true conservatism would look barbaric to a soft head like you.
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If youre trying to start a subtle trump critisism thread youre going to have a bad time
I never established any ethos, I just said that centrism is the correct semi/non-political alignment.
To make it back to the middle we need conservatism... Badly.
Nope. Just trying to start a thread that isn't full of fucking shitposting. Trump is perfect. A political outsider with a conservatively staffed cabinet. We needed someone who can stand closer to the middle, and with the help of the right.... Drag our collective ass back toward the center.
>getting nothing done while bitching about the two main parties is the correct way
This is the millionth fucking thread I've seen about "muh centerism" . Are we being raided?
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We already have the ideology and we already fought and won the revolution in 1776 you idiot. It fucking worked and Trumpists and communists alike are gonna fuck it up for all the normal people
Leftist shills have been raiding this board since Trump won the election. How many fucking communism and anti-trump threads have you seen in the past month?
Look, theorically speaking I would agree you. Centrism still are the best advocates for genuine liberalism (which regardless of Sup Forums memes I do believe to be the superior ideological system when coupled with civic nationalism). But in practice they are ineffective. How can you petition for change when you yourself are the advocate of moderation?
In the UK, our centrists are the biggest shills for islamism and globalism. I can't ignore that. And why should I waste so much time trying to reform a party that (a) doesn't carry much traction and (b) is not following its own creed?
I'd rather see right wing politics sway the land and then moderate itself once it has accomplished its main goals. It would be much faster than the alternative you propose.
Arguing for centrist positions doesn't work against the turbo-liberal MSM and crazy SJWs, who are employing Hegelian Dialectic :
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Given the cultural dominance (ZOG media) and hysterical insanity of the left, one must argue for hard right positions and troll them mercilessly, then eventually "compromise" to more moderate positions that were actually what you wanted all along. The success of Trump proves this, e.g. extreme vetting seems reasonable compared to the total Muslim ban he originally proposed.
You make a good point. It is difficult to combat extremism when you're fixated on being moderate. Especially in the context of Islamic fuckery. From the outside looking in, Europe needs less inclusivity and more nationalism.... Y'know... To save itself.
Trump IS a centrist in the sense that his policies are things that all Americans should agree with. End NAFTA and TPP, secure the border, deport illegals, reduce H-1Bs, strongly encourage corporations to bring their jobs back to America, nominate Supreme Court justices who will protect our Constitutional rights, avoid a wasteful war with Russia, lower taxes, cracking down on ghetto crime, the freedom to choose whether to spend money on insurance, and just generally putting America first for a change.
Anyone who looks at all his pro-American policies and is still anti-Trump is either someone who has let themselves be manipulated by globalist-owned media (globalist elites who want to transfer wealth from the American people to themselves), or taking money from globalists (which results in a very small very short-term financial gain at the expense of selling out their country's future, all their descendants' future, and the entire human race's future as the white race, the source of all innovation in the last 1000+ years, is wiped out by globalism). Was it worth dooming all of humanity for those people to either stay ignorant or sell out their own future?
Yeah that's always been my concern. Centrism would be great if we were already living in a system that actively defends genuine classic liberal values and probably would be the ideal party to maintain such a status quo. But when under pressure, they tend to buckle. And that's what has been happening to them since the 70s. "Nice thoughts" are not enough when your culture is under attack.