When will Sup Forums admit that Muslim hatred for the West is somewhat justified? Let us look at the top 5 countries with regards to Muslim population in the world and their historical colonizers:
1) Indonesia: colonized by the Dutch 2) India: colonized by the British 3) Pakistan: colonized by the British 4) Bangladesh: colonized by the British 5) Nigeria: colonized by the British
And we have not even started on the the invasions, sabotage, bombings and attempted government overthrow perpetrated by the United States in the Middle East.
>But why do they hate us. Must be because of freedoms
Those were just the ones I remembered off the top of my head. Go back to the shelter Achmed.
Landon Russell
You just proved his point Ahmed. Most Krauts here hate mudslimes more then we do
Parker Diaz
The Muslims conquered Spain, Greece, Eastern Europe, and you don't see them going all akbar. All those countries that were colonized were left better than they were before.
Jacob Nguyen
That's perfectly reasonable.
Parker Powell
It's not about hating or loving anyone but acknowledging facts instead of repeating the retarded "they hate our freedoms" meme.
David Morales
And the Iraq-Iran war never happened.
Under Iran it should at least say the obvious ones.
Iraq US France UK India Saudi Arabia Israel Lebanon
Carter Morris
>muh bombings
When did Iran head the military arm of the UN and NATO?
John Bell
There still exists incredible resetment in India for the colonial period which is perceived to have robbed India of its wealth.
Aaron Mitchell
None of those had Iranian military directly involved. If we were to start talking about American proxies the list would never fucking end.
>Iran/Iraq war
A war in which the Iran merely defended itself against the U.S. funded Saddam
Get gassed subhuman. You get exploited because you are stupid as fuck, both by us and your ruling class.
Chase Carter
>Merely defended themselves
Yeah they just did a bunch of highjackings and bombings in self defense what saints. Stop being delusional. Saddam was sick of all the terrorist attacks and assassination attempts.
Also uncuck yourself immediately.
Cooper Price
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Samuel Bell
>Says James on a board that literally whines 24/7 about leftists, Muslims, the government etc. cucking their country
oh my days
Jace Foster
It's a bit of complex geopolitical history between two neighbouring country, nothing like what the United States has done throughout the decades playing world police in order to insure its hegemony. Comparing US meddling to Iranian border conflicts is incredibly disingenious.
Michael Moore
Iran Iraq war Go to bed you fucking whore
Jaxson Jenkins
The Jihad didn't start as a response to European colonialism. It originated with Islam itself, because islam is as much an ongoing war as it is a faith.
Why the fuck are you less educated on history than an American, Hans?
Ethan Ross
Indonesia loves us.
Christian Carter
Saddam Hussein started that war. Try again.
Isaac Ortiz
And all this cucking is nothing compared to how you fuckers raped your own nations. Of course we dont want you here.
Levi Davis
Because this is abdul, not hans.
Adam Parker
Imperialism has been part of every civilisation that has attained power. The Muslims were no different. The point of this thread is to recognize the historical wrongs that have been done by the West. Britain had no business colonizing all those countries and you know it. America had no business playing world police and everyone acknoledges it, even Mr. Trump. So I don't see why this is controversial on Sup Forums.
Eli Bailey
The US plays world police and Iran plays world terrorist. You're obviously biased if you see one and ignore the other.
Colton Sullivan
>India: colonized by the British
muh mughals
Gabriel Diaz
Fuck off you whipped beta. Muslims were attacking us for more than a thousand years. Crusades were slow response to their conquest, slavery and they desecration of christian holiest grounds. When we finally btfo them and divided their empire in a way that ensures eternal internal strife in islam, we have gotten blissful hundred years of rest and again we are faced with their advances, this time not as focused military power, but as an uncoordinated spread of cancer. Look at the Turkey - right now the parliament decide whether to make Erdogan defacto Sultan.
Hudson Campbell
You're acting like European imperialism is an excuse for Islamic terrorism, but Islamic imperialism and terrorism shouldn't be met with any resistance. Are you Merkel?
Juan Bailey
Eurpoe - invaded by islam approx 100 years after death of Mohammed
Fuck off, paki-lover
Alexander Stewart
We did not invade any countries abdul, we domesticated a population of animals.
The vast majority of them still like us.
Camden Cook
You are aware that a similar gif exists for every Empire that has existed under the sun?
Nathaniel Robinson
THIS IS NOT EVEN TRUE
FAKE NEWS
Jacob Cox
I never said terrorism, I said hate. The president of the United States Trump has repeatedly said "There is tremendous hate and I don't know why but we have to find out". Well no shit genius, after years and years of meddling in their affairs, bombing their countries and installing puppet governments what the fuck do you expect? Roses and chocolates?
Joshua Ortiz
Because anglokikes colonized some countries in the past it's okay now to gangrape white girls and run over kids and parents on Christmas markets with a truck . Mehmet you insufferable eternal roach heart. Fick dich sohn einer hure
Camden Brooks
Lol Du kannst nicht mal richtig Deutsch schreiben. Go home, Amischwein.
Jonathan Bennett
Islamic one is the most successful one of them all. It is ideology of uninspired and ignorant, but relentless To think that you take pity on them is laughable. They are like Zerg and we did all we can to stop them, yet here we are once again. Pray to whatever fairytale you believe in that none of them ever conquers Baghdad or Damascus.
Dominic Russell
Well what to expect after years of bombings, highjackings, and beheadings? Maybe a German would just accept that as part of their culture and welcome them into their country but we would rather fight against that.
Christopher Hitchens said "The cause of terrorism is not our resistance to it."
Caleb Morales
>Baghdad or Damascus
wot. I think you may be a few centuries too late. Both those cities are already controlled by Muslims.
Nicholas Mitchell
>implying Sup Forums hasn't talked about blow back for years
Ctr pls.
Julian Watson
The cause of terrorism is also not "they hate our freedoms ". Might be in some instances and especially with ISIS but historically there has been more than that to it. There IS such a thing as blowback and people like Ron Paul have been talking about it for decades.
Josiah Turner
Sand-nigger: how do you think Islam got to Indonesia, India/Pakistan/Bangladesh and Nigeria TO BEGIN WITH?!
BY INVADING THOSE PLACES, YOU RETARDED CAMEL-FUCKER
Sebastian Miller
They "support terrorism" because they support groups that don't allow Israel to fucking invade countries and slaughter innocent people (Hezbollah and Hamas), while they also support the government in Syria. Of course, that is unacceptable to the US and so they support terrorism.
Are you mental? The dictatorship in Iraq invaded Iran with full US support. This, of course, happened after an Iranian revolution against a 26-year rule of a US-backed dictator. This was unacceptable, too. Why should Iran manage its own affairs?
But yeah, Iran hates the US cuz freedom.
Kayden Bailey
It pains me to see how uninformed Sup Forums is. People listing the Iran-Iraq war as a sign of Iranian hostility is retarded. OP, I commend you for your knowledge.
Owen Miller
Of course there is hate, hate mostly directed at yourselves. Do the frogfags blame the krauts and ww2 for their current economic turmoils? Do the chinks cry about muh nanking and japs to explain away their agrarian shitfuck policies of 49-76 ? Do the amerifats pin their problems on the brits because muh independence and muh 1812 war?
No. Because crying over spilled milk is fucking beta-tier. You grow up and you move on.
Nathan Barnes
How do you think Christianity got to South America? It's the exact same thing.
Samuel Johnson
> the military wasn't involved it doesn't count
get the fuck out europe, you 50 iq sandroachnigger
Charles Barnes
the Kraut is right. the people on Sup Forums don't know shit about history.
Jason Wood
The difference is Islam is still crying over it. You are like niggers with muh reparations. Newsflash faggot, winners don't pay reparations.
Christian Price
>Indonesia: colonized by the Dutch Oh come on
Cooper Garcia
It's also funny how he forgets to mention Indonesia and suharto tried to rape and genocide East Timor for decades, but that's okay because it doesn't count somehow (??????).
It's only when muslims get btfo that OP cares.
Brayden Lewis
Lol wat. The Chinese do care about Nanking, the Koreans do care about comfort women. Every fucking one in EU blames Germany for their economic crises. Americans whine all the fucking time about how the rest of the world, China and Russia in particular, are responsible for American economy "being in shambles", Trump fucking got elected on this platform. You are absolutely clueless.
Landon Smith
>Ukraine 2014
Kayden Hall
Iran funded terrorist attacks in Iraq and assassination attempts against Saddam. That's their game. They don't have the military to defend themselves so they just organize terrorist attacks around the world. When Saddam invaded it was about time somebody stood up to them.
You can justify the US side of the list and the Iran side but don't just pretend the list of countries Iran attacked doesn't exist. That's misleading propaganda.
Lucas Butler
Iran finds suicide bombers in Israel and Syria.
But sure leave that out
Isaac James
Iran with its proxy Hezbollah is actually trying to fight anti-Assad terrorists funded by the United States and its Arab buddies in Syria. Or are you a believer in that "moderate rebels" meme?
Leo Green
of course people still care about their history. There is a difference between that and then using old history to justify current policies.
China doesnt let nanking determine its trading and foreign relations with Japan. The US do not let their rebellion against the UK determine their contemporary relationship. The frogs do not blame the germans of ww2 for the end of the "trentes glorieuses".
However, everyone is blaming germany for the CURRENT economic crash that is affecting everyone RIGHT NOW. Amerifats are aware that china is buttfucking them with trade RIGHT NOW. Not 50 years or so ago, RIGHT NOW.
Stop being a disingenuous faggot using old history to justify bad modern politics.
Jackson Lee
Blowback is a cucked philosophy though because it says we should surrender our sovereign self determination to appease terrorist demands. Meeting the demands of terrorists and not acting in our own self interest will only fuel more terrorism.
Cooper Carter
Their hatred is justified, but it is justified because of jewish action which we also hate. It's not our job to bend over and take their cock because of it, they're both shit and they can both fuck off.
Nolan Anderson
>Countries we invade >Their government and armies didn't protect their civilians and buildings from Americans >Pretend to be victims after they got their ass whooped
I congratulate Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Cuba for defend their country.
Gavin Evans
they are vermin and extermination is the only way to deal with vermin
David Foster
That doesn't make any sense. Until 1979, Iran was a Western client state. One year after the revolution, Saddam invaded. It wasn't as if he was finally making a stand. He was trying to capture the opportunity of a new, weak government.
Ayden Hall
Blowback isn't about dealing with terrorists. It's about ordinary people who decide to take up arms against other people who slaughter their families and dismantle their countries.
Xavier Morales
umm Chinese relations with the Japanese are actually at an all time low because of border disputes and and again due to historical bad blood. According polls, just 3% of Japanese people view China's influence positively making it the most negative perception of China in the world. Meanwhile only 5% of Chinese people view Japanese influence positively, with 90% expressing a negative view, the most negative perception of Japan in the world.
You are acting like history happens in a vaccum and repercussions from historical act do not translate into public opinion and policy in the present. This is just not how reality works and there are numerous examples to illustrate that.
William Edwards
Congratulations for literally being that asshole 10th grader that beats up a helpless 8 year old and then has the audacity to feel like a badass.
Aaron Bennett
Yet this has not stopped Japan and China from signing a peace and friendship treaty in 79 that still holds to this day. This has not stopped Japan from sending billions to china through 3rd world development aid for decades. This has not stopped china and japan trading roughly about 340billions worth of goods yearly. This has not stopped Japan and China to commit and work together on NPT. This list goes on.
You are using public opinion as if it was representative of government policy - and those things very often do not match. Get fucked.
Kayden Cooper
1. Iran finances terrorism that has killed hundreds of thousands.
2. Because my country killed people I'm supposed to just let their relatives come here and kill me? Fuck off, it's about survival.
Evan Wilson
Almost all Muslim countries are on good terms with the West as well. There are good trade relations, especially petroleum and ambassadors from Muslim countries are in every Western nation and vice versa. It's the people, the public that holds resentments against the West for historical wrongs. Congratulations for being so retarded that you didn't get the point of the thread.
Leo Jenkins
The point of the thread is that muslim hatred is still justified. It isn't. Mudshits simply need to git gud and stop whining about muh past oppresshun.
Julian Turner
Not going to dispute the first point but I have never argued for an open door immigration policy. Just that America in particular needs to chill and stop funding rebellious movemenets across the planet and installing puppets for selfish corporate interest and ruining countries and nations as a result. This lack of introspection on America's part is very disturbing, American presidents are on record saying that they will never apologize for anything and President Trump doesn't even know why most of the world considers America a threat to world peace. That is a huge problem-
Jace Torres
Autism
Elijah Smith
Iran isn't a problem. Saudi Arabia is the fucks who have exported Wahhabism and Islamic extremism around the world.
Go look up how many Islamic terrorists were Sunni and how many were Shiite
Nolan Torres
>past
haven't even been 15 years since Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair decided to march on Iraq. Hasn't even been 10 years since Gaddafi was outsed with Western meddling. Haven't even been 10 minutes since US funded """rebels""" were fighting and trying to overthrow a secular leader in Syria
>But they hate us because freedom
Nicholas Sullivan
Iran is chill homie
USA+Russia+Iran coalition vs Zionist globalists
Oliver Brown
All those countries you listed were made better by their colonizers and slid into degeneracy when the colonizers left.
Aiden Hill
it's not actually the USA it's kike lobbyists and bankers and jewllywood that does that shit
Kevin Harris
>Be dirty goatfucking shitskin >Warlord comes along and promises to make women lower than cattle, get bitches when you die, and can do whatever you want if you convert (die if you do not) >Rome and Persia are weak, so stomp around middle east with little opposition >Burn as much knowledge as you can, from India, to Persia, to the crap the Romans left behind >Terrorize middle east, north africa, parts of europe, and india for centuries >BASED Genghis Khan comes along and slaps a bit of order into savage sandnigger ways >Khan empire leaves, double down on savagery >Never stop attacking people who insult the prophet >Be absolutely horrible to your subjects and enslave as many people as possible Fast foward to modern times >Still savage goatfucking terrorists >Decide to attack USA for realsies >They retaliate by buttfucking the whole middle east and everything around out of pure anger/vengeance (and profit) like the Europeans never could >Get angry that someone dares challenge the Prophet and his holy religion >Can do little besides lone wolf attacks bc the US dominates your shitty religion so hard
Yeah, fuck muslims and fuck Islam. They spent 1400 years or so being complete savages to everyone they could, then finally got assfucked by a country that they couldn't terrorize into submission.
Josiah Jenkins
>Iraq war Oh you mean the absolutely """""random""""" war that occured after Saddam 1)Invaded Iran in 79 2)Killed 200k kurds and btfo'd shiites 3)Violated NPT and sought to develop nuclear armament repeatedly 4)Invaded Kuwait in 1990 5)protected Abu Nidal and other wanted terrorists 6)radicalised the population with his faith 1990s campaign 7)responded to no flight sanctions by bombing the sky for nearly a decade Nevermind that the US and the UN were in agreement over eventual intervention in Iraq should the Saddam problem persists. Nevermind that the US signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998. It's all just fucking random.
>Libyan War The arab spring and the violent response from their own governments to public protests is totally the west's fault guise!!!!1!
>Syria Oh gee. If we don't interverne, it's our fault. If we do intervene then it is also our fault. I will grant you western indecisiveness has made matters worse.
Still doesn't really explain why muslims hates us tbqh. It's more about finding a suitable scapegoat for their own inadequacies.
Jason Powell
lol never thought I'd see a fucking neo-conservative on Sup Forums who'd justify Iraq, Libya and Syria. Good job ! It's just happens that your opinion is completely retarded and the interventions in Iraq, Libya and Syria have all proven to substantially have worsened the situation.
Matthew Perry
You should add Yemen, Lebanon and Syria to Iran's pane at the very least.
Aiden Reed
Never said those were successes or well-managed. What I said is that some things did not happen for no reason out of the blue regardless of how much you'd like it to.
You're still memeing about muslim hatred when the biggest muslim killers out there are still their fellow muslims.
Jason King
Yes they were in fact a disaster and everyone acknowledges that now. Maybe, just maybe, if you left the Muslim world alone and stopped the meddling there would be a significant reduction in oppurtunistic radical movements gaining prominence and convincing people that the West is the great Satan which must be fought.
Ryan Turner
>Maybe, just maybe, if you left the Muslim world alone and stopped the meddling there would be a significant reduction in oppurtunistic radical movements History has shown this to be total bullshit Islam is, and always has been, about spreading Islam aorund the planet. If they cannot compete on a fair footing, they just keep immigrating, converting, and using terrorism until they get power and can be oppressive. There are 0 cases of a country ruled by Islam that would be compatible with western culture.
Muslims will do whatever it takes to spread their violent religion. There aren't even really moderate muslims. Wherever you plant the seeds of Islam, violence and hatred follow. All of the "moderates" just willingly go along with the extremists because they don't care. So long as everything is Islam.
Justin Perry
>if you left the Muslim world alone There is nothing more than I'd like to. If the past decade has shown anything is that they will blame us regardless of what we do or don't do.
But you're a faggot if you think islamic radicalization started with the West. Wahhabism began in the 1800s. The muslim brotherhood started in the fuggen 1920s. Salafism grew in Saudi Arabia in the 1960s despite being best bro with the US.
They will radicalize regardless of what we do because what they cannot stand more than anything is how irrelevant the arab world has become since the collapse of the ottomans.
When you watch interviews from the arab world, you can see them either LARPing as Kangz because they have oil or blaming every bad policy they borrowed from the west (see michel aflaq, etc) onto us, even if experience proved them to be unworkable. Or sometimes rarely, you can see them lament at their society and how backward they are with their own ego instead of trying to open up their societies. Maybe the latter would fucking help.
Xavier Torres
You idiot. I am from Belgium. We have been taken over by the Dutch, the Spanish, the Germans, the French. And we don't hate any of them.
Blake Moore
Why do they have to compatible with so called Western culture? What is Western cultre even? Fat acceptane? LGBTQ parades and gay marriage? Feminism? Or conservativism and Christianity? Either way, leave them the fuck alone and allow them to develop at their own pace and stop trying to export (((democracy))) which basically only benefits the military industrial complex.
>But Muslims will hate us regardless
Maybe so, but the potential of radicalisation would decrease immensely. There is a reason why there are no Indonesian or Malaysia terrorists but there are Middle Eastern terrorisists on Western soil.
Alexander Foster
That's because Belgium is a meme country and Belgians are cucks.
Alexander Morgan
>there are no Indonesian or Malaysia terrorists You fucking shill.
1/2
Colton Smith
Wahabists and Salafists might be similar on paper but are actually very different in practice. Wahabists are allies of the West or pretend to be whilst Salafists do not recognize monarchy and wants to topple the Saud family. They are very different animals, there is no Salafist state as such in the world apart from ISIS which functions as a de facto state but isn't really one.
>They will radicalize regardless
Not true if you look at former soviet states like Kazakhstan and Tajikistan which have very small rates of radicalism. You can throw countries like Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia in the mix as well. These are not the countires generally known for producing islamists that attack Western civilians. And there is a very simple reason for that.
As far as the Arabs are concerned, they are a minority in the Muslim world (just 25% of Muslims are Arabs) but they command immnse influence due to U.S. support for Wahabism. This needs to stop. Isolationist USA would be the best case scenario for the world.
Aaron Turner
This actually proves my point lol. Countries with U.S. meddling have a higher rate of terrorism than countries where the U.S. and the West have stayed the fuck away.
Please try to explain away islamic terrorism in just about everyplace islam is present, regardless of muh ebil westerners.
Thomas Martinez
>1) Indonesia: colonized by the Dutch >2) India: colonized by the British >3) Pakistan: colonized by the British >4) Bangladesh: colonized by the British >5) Nigeria: colonized by the British
So this is why they're all in Sweden and Germany now? Makes perfect sense.
Levi Hughes
Of course, just like Russia is stuck dealing with Dagestan and Chechens fucktards who want their Caucasus emirate. Tell me more about how they are US affiliated.
Levi Jones
Because >If we were to start talking about American proxies the list would never fucking end.
Ryder Harris
>its justified because islam Face it user this is the whole point your trying to make
Ryder Hill
Do you comprehend the notion of "higher rate" and "lower rate" or no? No one is denying that separatist movements do not exist in other parts of the world but this thread is specifcally about Muslim hatred for the West.
Daniel Sanchez
Oh, then it's easy. In your opinion countries should hate every country that has conquered/colonised them. If you don't hate them you are a cuck country. So you would be in favour of most european countries hating Germany. Yes?
