Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Adrian Harris
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Ethan Perez
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Nicholas Harris
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Luke Barnes
Anyone with questions, feel free to ask them
Jaxon Ortiz
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Luis Collins
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Luis Gonzalez
If an evil dictator and his loyal advisors take over a country, there needs to be a peaceful way to impeach. Any fascist society needs regular elections.
Andrew Hall
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Noah Sullivan
facism is just a socialists idea to slap nationalism onto it. you are all a bunch of degenerates to be honest.
Nathan Gomez
>Fascism solves the problem of unemployment and poverty by establishing the Corporate State, which will be divided into National corporations governed by representatives of employers, workers and consumers, operating under Fascist government. The State will not attempt to conduct industry as it would under Socialism, instead, the State will lay down the limits within which industry' may operate, and those limits will be the national welfare. Private ownership will be permitted and encouraged, provided such activity enriches the nation as well as the individual. All interests that operate against the nation will be rigorously suppressed. The function of the Corporations will be to raise wages and salaries over the whole field of industry as science, rationalization and industrial technique increase the power to produce. Consumption will be adjusted to production and a Home Market will be provided by the higher purchasing power of our own people. Fascism involves a corporatist political system in which the economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level. This non-elected form of state officializing of every interest into the state was professed to reduce the marginalization of singular interests (as would allegedly happen by the unilateral end condition inherent in the democratic voting process). Corporatism would instead better recognize or "incorporate" every divergent interest into the state organically, according to its supporters, thus being the inspiration for their use of the term totalitarian, perceivable to them as not meaning a coercive system but described distinctly as without coercion.
Charles Davis
You say evil dictator, nothing implies he is a fascist, I am thinking o fa man like Mugabe. In that case only citizen rebellion and general strike could work.
In fascist systems there is not one single principle to follow on the issue of succession, every government has to find it's answer to that.
Jayden Baker
Why are there so many Mexican fascists?
Landon Gutierrez
An electoral system could be possible in a fascist society, yes.
Jayden Edwards
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Nathaniel Gomez
>only citizen rebellion and general strike could work Why would you want a system where violence and chaos are inevitable? Elections allow peaceful impeachment.
not possible, necessary.
Bentley Russell
The significant fascist writers and creators were Mediterranean
Carson Perez
Many? Tell me please where can I find them.
Oliver Ross
I say possible because the idea of succession has not been developed, so that'd be up to us to come up with a system.
Caleb Sullivan
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Kayden Brooks
A mindless dictatorship that serves no purpose that warranting the well-being of the ruler, as it is the case with Mugabe, it's not fascism, I was not talking about fascism in that sentence.
Gavin Martin
>meme futurism kek
Adrian Rivera
>not real fascism ok lad
Zachary Kelly
this is awfully similiar to the average bernietard rambling at how democratic socialim is not real socialism and it wekrs in norway.
Cameron Morales
>This guy gets it.
Luis Mitchell
Did you have a stroke?
Grayson Roberts
>NOW FOR THE LONG EXPLANATION Corporatism can be defined as a system of interest representation in which the constituent units are organized into a limited number of singular, compulsory, noncompetitive, hierarchically ordered and functionally differentiated categories, recognized or licensed (if not created) by the state and granted a deliberate representational monopoly within their respective categories in exchange for observing certain controls on their selection of leaders and articulation of demands and supports. Corporatism places the worker's guild within it while relatively retaining the autonomy of the workers and placing them in collaboration rather than conflict with their bosses. In forcing the workers and the bosses to cooperate and allowing the councils to represent themselves in arbitration via the labor courts, the class struggle is alleviated without the need for general strikes and demonstrations. Furthermore, the place of state becomes one of oversight, deciding for instance which goods are considered harmful to the nation and banning their production.
Well I consider it funny then how in a fascist state all forms of leftism are removed, at all costs.
Evan Lee
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Joseph Kelly
this is why fascism is and always will be a meme ideology. you don't have a unified vision or even the ability to describe how fascism differs on a basic level from anything else. whenever someone suggests something, you say "oh fascism can incorporate that." well what the fuck cant fascism incorporate? you need to outline a plan that people can understand. your failure to do so plus meme babble like is why no one will ever listen
Sebastian Thompson
The most important elements of fascism are military values and adherence to national identity, since all nations are different, all actual and certain forms of fascism and fascist governments will be different from each other, it can in fact incorporate many different policies, depending on what is more in line with it's nations history, culture and character.
Simply put, there is not one fascism.
Ian Morris
If someone asks how fascism differs from x I will give them an explanation, or give them that "meme babble" which is directly from the doctrines of fascism. Fascism can incorporate many things, if you ask or say something that is not incorporatable into fascism I will say. Such as democracy, capitalism, liberalism. I don't need to draw out an entire plan of how fascism works, the point of the thread is to ask questions and have discussion
Juan Bell
Mugabe is not a fascist, are you saying that every dictatorship and every authoritarian government ever is fascism?
What exactly do you think fascism is?
Lucas Nguyen
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Julian Phillips
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Benjamin Cook
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Ian Jones
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Logan Smith
The word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.
Charles Adams
None of that is fascism, and the word is not meaningless, it's only misused.
So because the modern world has no understanding of what fascism actually is and uses it as a pejorative somehow renders the word "fascism" useless to you?
Levi Martin
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Carson Parker
define fascism then, in an understandable way
Ryan King
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Benjamin Hughes
Fascism is the government body composed of a singular party, whatever the fascist party of the nation is. It is based off a strong people who hold the absolute most of love and pride in their country, fascism allows the people to have a pride in their nation like never before. It encourages every man to be an inspiration to his fellow man, all to be as strong as physically, and mentally as him. The fascist state is completely opposed to all types of liberalism, and has zero tolerance for it being promoted within the state. The fascist state has a leader which serves to be the ultimate example of a fascist, he must have the upmost of love for his people and country. For he is what must be what the people strive to be, within a fascist society, only the strong will survive.
Gavin Kelly
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Jace Hill
>Fascism is the government body composed of a singular party, whatever the fascist party of the nation is so....fascism is defined by whatever the fascist party says it is? isnt that a little circular?
Parker Cruz
>so....fascism is defined by whatever the fascist party says it is? isnt that a little circular?
No one said that.
Read these:
And if you really want to know, watch this when you can:
Henry Anderson
A nation where all corporations, all industries, exist to further the state and those within it. Corporations and industries may need to be nationalized. Unions, consisting of citizens, need to exist and cooperate with the state and with the corporations/industries themselves. The state acts as an intermediary between the people and the industries. A protectionist economy. The nation also prides themselves in their culture, their history. A Spanish fascist state would idealize Spaniard's history, their triumphs, their culture. They would oppose immigration and race mixing. They would support nationalism and fascism in other countries. They would make sure corporations are benefiting their country - not other nations and not just their CEOs. Identity, Culture, National Unity, and an economy that exists to further the state and the people's wealth. People should take pride in their work and the things their nation produces. People should be happy to work for a more prosperous nation. People should have morals and family values. Children should learn outdoorsmanship and discipline. A unified, loving family should be promoted. Promiscuity should be discouraged. Things like "slut walks" should be disgusting to people.
Benjamin Morgan
Not exactly, I meant it as in whatever fascist party succeeded in establishing fascism in the country, them and whoever their allies were would be merged and that'd become the official party of the state. But each and every countrys version of fascism differs just a bit, fascism is meant to be able to be molded and adapted to fit any countrys situation and needs, example, Falangism wouldn't have been ideal for Italy and Italian fascism wouldn't have been exactly ideal for Spain, maybe could have worked? But it wouldn't have completely fit their situation, and whatever the countrys current problems were.
Adrian Gray
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Hunter Jackson
Sailing high abooveee
Eli Ross
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Brayden Nguyen
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Leo Turner
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Zachary Ortiz
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Ayden Moore
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Xavier Bailey
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Parker Kelly
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Lincoln Taylor
cool pics tho
i read mein kampf recently it was pretty cool. some majorly boring parts but a lot of good as well.
Gabriel Robinson
Read the doctrines of fascism next, then for my legionaries, then get into evola.
Cooper King
How do I start a fascist movement in my city?
Adrian Baker
have you read pareto because im interested in that. specifically his stuff on elites and wealth distributions.
And if you want to know more ask in this thread for more info.
Brayden Morgan
What does a fascist lifestyle looks like ? Anybody here tries to live that way ? I'm a lazy person; Could living a fascist lifestyle help me improve myself ?
Can you live a fascist lifestyle in your personal life even if you're surrounded by leftist scum ?
Robert Wood
You can find "doctrine..." here
Jaxson Ramirez
Where can I get this flag
Zachary Anderson
How interested are you? If you really want to start something we can help you, and we can also help you with self improvement.
William Flores
No I have not yet, been on my reading list though
Connor Roberts
Get a good group of friends, or use the internet. I'm in the process of setting up mine for america and I know a couple other leafs who'd like to get one for themselves
Daniel Parker
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Nolan Rodriguez
To live as a fascist in this day will mean constant persecution, but yes following the moral principles of fascism will greatly help improve your health and life, as Mussolini said the fascist disdains the "easy life"
Jaxon Turner
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Josiah Turner
we should do a pareto reading group. but you're probably FBI or SPLC or mossad or w/e. or maybe i am. you know what i mean? you go to a kkk meeting of 10 people and 7 of them are g-men.
Kayden Mitchell
Are you two still here? please respond and wait.
Cooper Wilson
I'm interested in self improvement yes. I sometimes wonder if fascism philosophy and lifestyle could improve me as a human being
>To live as a fascist in this day will mean constant persecution Why ? I hardly see how anybody could even notice it unless I tell them. I won't go around and say it i wouldnt do it for attention
Liam Sullivan
Bump. Will the Roman Salute ever make a comeback?
Joseph James
Please, follow this link, we have diet and exercise guides, many others too for other things.
I am fairly interested. I agree with the majority of fascist prerogatives and policies. I have a spouse who feels the same way as I do. I think I have reached a point, fed up with the unchecked freedom people have and the way it allows them to subvert the state and the safety of civilians, that I am passionate enough to want to change things. Problem is, I'm a loser. My lifestyle is such that, under scrutiny, could easily be used against me. I have no education to speak of (outside dabbling in post-secondary) and I haven't worked in some years. I am consistently ashamed by my lack of ability to contribute to my country and countrymen. I have few friends, and they are all left to center leaning.
Landon Roberts
Both of you please get in here, we have a discord server for this, all the information is there.
Chase Walker
If you become a fascist, your attitude changes. People around you notice the difference, you just have to try to suppress the political part from surfacing. Which gets pretty damn hard sometimes, but you can do it.
Liam Lopez
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Jose Hall
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Julian Hill
Thoughts on being a NEET in efforts to collapse our current system faster?
Oliver Hughes
waste of a good opportunity at life. sounds like lazy anarchist shit
Bentley Parker
More like collapse your parents
Ryan Myers
COMMUNISM WILL WIN
Ian Bennett
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James Rivera
If we let this system collapse itll mean the end for us all, the chance for rebuilding fascism or practically any ideology resurfacing would take many many years, this current system is not salvageable, it either dies, or we replace it.
Christian Gutierrez
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Levi Cooper
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David Harris
It lost against other white people my baiting dude
Ayden Howard
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Landon Howard
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Connor Parker
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Jonathan Hernandez
I don't understand any other way out of our situation though, We are a minority that holds these beliefs, The majority of people are not willing to give up comforts/freedoms for a more moral and cohesive society and i do not think they can be convinced to do so before the demographics have determined our fate. We should be aiming to rebuild from the rubble youtube.com/watch?v=sXr-bBYg1N0
Bentley Carter
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Ryder Kelly
Conditions will worsen m8, everyday more and more people are pushed right. All it takes is a bit of guidance
Xavier Turner
Our battleground is in the minds of the undecided. The best way to win is trough debate and discussion, and make no mistake, we will not convince the people on the opposite side, but we are not trying to do so; what we most do is prove to the general public that our ideas are better than theirs, for this purpose it works in our benefit that they use violence and show themselves to be unreasonable. Look up Jordan Peterson he is the best in this regard.
