Now before I start I fully understand that as a theist who is talking about the existence of God the burden of proof lies on you and so in this thread, I would give evidence as to why I think God exists. Also, I believe something like a deity in the sky is unfalsifiable, but I think I can give reasons why you should believe in a God rather than not.
>Argument 1 The universe is so complex that it would have had to take a being to create it. A better illustration of this point would be the watch analogy which goes a follows. Let's say you lived in a world where a watch didn't exist, and you walked outside into your garden, and on a floor, you saw a fully diamond encrusted Rolex watch. If you saw it many thoughts would have come into your mind such as what is it how did it get here or why is a here but one thing we would all know for certain is that it was created just due to the design and if you came to a conclusion because of the complexity of a watch imagine the universe.
>Argument 2 The universe is so fine tuned that the chances of everything existing as it does now are so microscopically small that it had to of had taken a creator
You don't need to write so much to argue the existence of God. He is real, we don't need to prove it. Those people who claim to not believe in God are delusional and liars.
2 Thessalonians 2 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness
They reject God, so God rejected them. God is the beginning and end, and experiences creation in a non-linear way.
Atheists literally are delusional. No matter how good your arguments are, and even when you post proof, it will never be enough to convince an atheist. The truth is what matters, not how you write arguments to appeal to delusional people.
Landon Robinson
I'll start with these:
1. Complexity doesn't necessarily point to a god, but to the simplicity of human mind.
2. You are thinking about this the wrong way. Universe happens to seem like fine tuned because it's required to be this way in order for us to exist and observe it. Universe could just well exist in some other form without being able to support anything that could observe it.
>Atheists literally are delusional. No matter how good your arguments are, and even when you post proof, it will never be enough to convince an atheist. The truth is what matters, not how you write arguments to appeal to delusional people.
God is not meant to be provable, or it would cease to be a matter of faith and become hard science.
Benjamin Nelson
>Complexity doesn't necessarily point to a God, but to the simplicity of human mind
What does it necessitate then? Did you not read the watch analogy? Clearly, something complex had to of had something to create it. It's stupid to think it came into creation by itself. It would be more rational to think a magician can pull a rabbit out of a hat because at least there is a first cause to bring something into creation.
Austin Sanders
1. You made a logical leap saying that because the universe is complex there must be a creator, you first have to prove that for something complex to exist there must be a creator yet we see many planets and animals that come to shape because of properties of the universe. as it is the universe is a calculation, a form of graph and a calculation does not require a creator. A watch is not the same as the universe because we know humans make watches.
2. Even if the universe is really really fine tuned it does not mean it must have a creator. we don't know if the laws of the universe were different we might have evolved very differently or there might have been different types of life all together.
what you listed here isn't proof.
Nolan Murphy
We don't know what kind of reality exists outside our universe, so we can't conclude whether the existence of our universe is a divine miracle or an inevitable event caused by forces outside it. Complexity is subjective, and to our simple human minds it's not a surprise that the universe appears complex.
Connor Hall
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