Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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nigger by choice

Every fucking hour. Staaahp, Pablo!

Ugh? what does that have to do with communism.

Hi again comrade

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They smell the porky stink

Kill yourself.Byzantine restoration is the way the go.

Lad im a anarcho gommie I only go on pol for habvenings and Shitposting

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here's how to make communism a reality:
pick a hammer
pick a nail
smash the nail into your head with the hammer
Congratulations you've achieved communism

>all this porky butthurt
Based spaniard

Can you name me some countries that are actually communist?

No sickle? c'mon

This fucking Spaniard again? Take your economic degeneracy somewhere else.

>to meet a social need.
But what about things people just want? I've been poor enough to have my needs met but not my wants, and it's fucking miserable, not because I'm jealous of others' possessions (most of the crap people but inspires only scorn in me), but because I'm fucking bored.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
I'm still yet to hear a reasonable objection to the notion (and observation) that people will only do the least work they can get away with when working harder than average has essentially no incentive. Also what's to stop those in control if allocating resources exploiting their power for personal gain. I promise to hear you out if you have an actual answer to either of these - I do agree that communism sounds great on paper if everyone is totally on board, but I think too many people are too innately selfish for communism to be viable in the real world.

Countries that had communism do not want it back.

Good luck being miserable and living under a dictatorship.

Subhuman.

There is great abundance in communism thanks to technology advances, no problem if you want whatever personal property as long as the whole community is not affected negatively.

We already have normalfaggotry becoming common place here. We don't cancerous generals on Sup Forums about the greatest normalfag phenomenon of the 20th century. Get the fuck out of here.

What is a subhuman comrade?

Why do you hate ''normalfags'', did they bully you comrade? they will be send to gulag if they are mean.

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution

>why do you hate normalfags?

Lurk moar

And who would plan out the "advanced productive technology "?
A bunch of bureaucrats?

Nigga, please, it has been tried COUNTLESS times, doesn't work.
Mises already proved it, go and read it.

Don't confuse communism with socialist states.

It's the same shit.
Doesn't work, never worked, never will.

I can see it working in a truly post-scarcity society with widespread automation, but we're not there yet. While we're reliant on people being motivated to work, I think we need competition to drive that motivation.

...

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Until one of them starts being lazy and getting paid as well as the other ones that work hard.

And then all of them start to get lazy and not give a shit, like in old Czechoslovakia, where everyone had a job and no one would get fired, and no one did shit.