Okay so I know there is a lot of shitposting around this topic, but I am asking this with the hope to be enlightened

Okay so I know there is a lot of shitposting around this topic, but I am asking this with the hope to be enlightened.

I was taught in school that the holocaust happened. However, as far as I can remember the only evidence provided were: photos, videos, and testimony from supposed victims.

My questions are simple: did the holocaust happen? Were the numbers exaggerated? What verifiable evidence exists for/against the idea of the holocaust?

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youtube.com/watch?v=QQXocM0eCik
ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html
ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
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what do you think

>My questions are simple: did the holocaust happen?

Sup Forums's official answer.

1. No, it didn't happen.

2. But it should have.

3. And it will.

Currently, I'm inclined to say that it did, hence why I'm asking to see if there are legitimate grounds for doubt.

*Note

I do not necessarily hold these views.

Many photos were edited, there's no actual videos indicating any deliberate exterminations or "gas chambers" or anywhere near six million casualties, and testimony can be false (as was seen in the Kuwaiti invasion).
I don't have any of the comparison images on me right now, but I'm sure other posters will oblige and show you some of them.

A Jew made this!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=QQXocM0eCik

of course it happened. no the numbers arent exaggerated. the problem is that the jews want to make their deaths in ww2 the most important ones.

eastern europeans of every nationality got slaughtered by the millions during that conflict, not to mention all the german war dead.

but the jews don't care about any other ww2 war deaths. just the same, they dont care about genocide in armenia, balkans, rwanda, sudan, etc.

tldr, the holocaust is real but only discussed because of zog machine brainwashing

there are no legitimate grounds to doubt that the holocaust happened.
The holocaust denial rabbit hole is a deep one senpai, don't fall down it.
You cannot overcome a mountain of evidence with a rock of doubt, you can only hit yourself upside the head and pretend that truth and facts don't matter and that how you feel is the only thing that matters.
Truth is Truth and its based on evidence.

Precisely. Which is why I'm asking for evidence FOR and AGAINST....I feel like you are missing what I'm asking for.

There have even been other Jews who are Sup Forums allies who have debunked certain things about the Holocaust.

Its nice to know not everyone is fucked in the head.

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It is actually brain programming. You could only wish all our brains were washed.

fuck off

this is really nice, thanks for posting. Good information.

What is more likely? That the cannibalistic pedophile politicians who tell us nazi Germany were genocidal cartoon villains, or that the banks, politicians, and those who puppeteer them are lying to you, just as the media has been lying perpetually about Trump.

The first ever powerful and compassionate movement for white solidarity and anti usury and vampiric energy exploitation is somehow the most "evil genocidal badguys" right?

But we should just trust our banker masters. Not like those people have a predilection to lie or anything.

Yes it happened but not on the scale the kikes said it happened, how can you say that genocide never occurred?

See thats part of why I posted this in the first place, with the election it became clear that to me for the first time (I'm pretty young) that it can be used to re-write history however (((they))) want.

But I do like to have evidence to support audacious claims like saying it never happened.

>did the holocaust happen?
Take a guess

who cares if it was 1 million, 3 million, or 6 million?

it's still genocide and its still "brain programming" from the zog machine. nobody cares about all the other genocides. just look at how much press the armenian folks or the ukrainians get when they try to publicise their genocides. they get shit on by the ADL and thats its.

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Lookup David Cole. There were of course camps, but they were meant to keep them in place until the war was over to move to another area.

I recommend you delve into the occult to truly understand Hitler's goals, and why the elite hate them so much. I mean have you ever seen a group be this demonized in media? Start with pic related, then I recommend you read on the Thule society and Vrill, as well as Newton's and Nikola Tesla's personal writings.

what news paper is the first one? issue date?

also the second image, are there documents showing that the narrative it says is true? that they changed which camps were death camps?

>tfw you'll never kill jews via masturbation

Leaf post best post

information is all in the bottom of the pictures

I will definitely do this, thank you for providing some leads to follow.

Also what is the general consensus on David Irving?

whoops sorry didn't see that on the first one

that has been debunked so many times.. my grandpa said the holocaust happened. And he has a phd in history

>David Irving?
He's really good for unbiased history, he's waffled on the holocaust question, but ultimately claimed it happened, likely due to threats of law suits like what happened to Zundel
Zundel is also someone worth reading

Personally I'd be weary of any non aryan interpretations of the Third Reich's work. Most tend to buy into the meme that the Third Reich was authoritarian to its people. The opposite was true, EVERYONE was government in the Third Reich.

The elites from the UK also like to blame the crimes they commit on a daily basis of child sacrifice and other things on "dark nazi occultism". The opposite is true, the national socialists were unifying the light and dark sun to achieve equilibrium between the conscious and subconscious to manifest heaven on Earth. Lot to take in I know, but due to the tremendous disinformation from the allies of the Reich as purely military and not spiritual I tend not to pay much mind to ally interpretations, as they are based on erroneous propaganda or half truths.

>light and dark sun

this took a really strange twist somewhere I'm not sure I exactly follow

(((Not an argument)))

Tbh, the biggest thing that should raise questions is the Nuremberg Trials, which were from a legal perspective a complete joke with evidence focus on eyewitnesses and evidence gained via torture, to the point where both US Congress and the Supreme Court called them out
The trials were also run by the Soviets, who were known for kangaroo courts

ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html
ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html

The foundation for the esoteric aspect of nat soc high command was "Vrill" technology. They were into occultism, and they found out through Gnostic and Hindu texts about the sacred feminine principles which are largely hidden from public eye, to emphasize on unused Christ consciousness (pantheism identity).

The light and dark sun are symbols of Christ and the feminine Sophia in occultist esoteric Christianity. Particularly Gnosticism. The national socialists used the swastika precisely because it symbolizes a convergence between both. Thus national socialism seeked to be in harmony with nature, and in particular natural moral law.

This was perverted when the allies declared war, fearing the rapid progress of the nat soc peoples would derail their systems of slavery over man. And it would have derailed it.

Sorry to bombard, there's a lot more where that came from.

No I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say on this, I'm screen capping so I can read later once I cover the other stuff you suggested.

Basically, Hitler wanted a race in unison seeking to create a "Triumph of the Will" through understanding the black sun divine creative feminine. T his is why Himmler and Rudolph Hess were worshipers of the black sun, and why Nazism is sometimes associated with pic related.

The reason the elite demonize Hitler and the Third Reich so much, is because his views on "rule" were diametrically opposed to theirs. He believed in a nation's destiny in unison, not as separate classes of rulers and plebeians.

Many of the evils the allies project on the Third Reich they themselves commit every day. Inversion of truths is a favorite tactic of the so called "elite"

I don't know about if the holocaust happened but the numbers a definitely inflated

There is no real doubt that some jews where discriminated against to the point of death by Nazi Germany. However anything beyond that is solely based on the testimony of jews

I'm reading over this article, it seems pretty comprehensive. Is there dispute of what they cite?

Forgot the link. Duh.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

kek

The Holocaust didn't happen as most people believe. Gas chambers weren't utilized and all that lamp shade made of human skin bullshit is obviously false. However, (((they))) were held in camps where (((they))) did do forced labor for the majority of the time. I believe, based on some research, that the main cause of death wasn't "the final plan", btw which was never written or recorded as not a single copy was ever found and it was never mentioned in any document so I doubt that was the actual plan. Rather they died from disease which spread quickly through camps and famine. It was war time after all and Germans weren't about to give their precious rations to the Jews.

I've read a fair bit over the years that put doubt in my mind. There was something about auschwitz where the number of jews supposedly killed there meant you'd need to have the ovens burning pretty much every day but not a single reconnaissance photo of the area shows any indication of anything burning. On top of these types of inconsistencies many of the jewish accounts are rediculous.

I think that jewish people died but I think it's bigly exaggerated and I don't really see why it is the worst thing that ever happened when 20 million ruskis met their maker during that war. That's what war is, death.

>ridiculous

But the Germans did give their rations and medicine to those interned in the camps.

The allied bombing of infrastructure made it difficult to impossible for them to get supplies to the camps.

The Germans were compassionate to those imprisoned, they even built theatres and swimming pools in the camps.