I won't put in the ones about abortion because the Dogma is a little wrong.
If y'all want the 10 episodes can be binged since the blu-ray is already out.
Watch all 10 and make a constructive argument.
I found it quite profound, with critiques of the Church however, alot of the thoughts on mysticism and the entire mystery of the Church I found wonderful.
One such was Voiello, an oxymoron within himself.
>Has a lavish home >Doesn't live in it, but rather takes care of a disabled boy at night
Any thoughts on the theological and political basis of the show?
Isn't that some Netflix garbage? Why are you shilling this shit here?
Camden Lopez
No. Its Sup Forums approved
Caleb Sullivan
watched but pretty sure i missed most of it because there was no subtitles when they were speaking Italian
Justin Walker
They have subtitles on the torrents
John White
I've not finished watching it yet, but I'm really loving it. The acting and production values are superb, and I'm finding the content thoroughly intriguing. I feel like the show is making a connection between the young pope and the Medieval church. The harder line over dogma, his youth/charisma and dynamism and the highlighting of the 'Mysteries' of the church. I feel like they're making this connection, but I don't fully grasp what they're trying to say with it.
Jason Sullivan
it not going to rewatch it anyway
Logan Gutierrez
I illuminated myself, fuck!!!
Brayden Turner
Wait is this movie good and not anti Christian like I for some reason believed?
Hudson Morales
im not interlay sure whats going on but I feel like its right. I'm not catholic
Tyler Evans
Isn't this just another "Evil Catholics!!!11!!!" bullshit propaganda piece?
Parker Foster
>movie
Mate.
Ian Green
that nigger with the mole on his face is to hard to understand
Jason Smith
hbo
Parker Hughes
Mini-series/show. Question still stands.
Evan Smith
Jewish subversion. Playing on the yearning for a Catholic pope that behaves and believes like a Catholic. Haven't seen an episode but have watched several clips.
They chose the name Pius to harken the mind to Pope St. Pius X, who was a great adversary of classical liberalism and theological modernism. He drove the heretics in the Church underground, and rejected Theodor Herzl's Zionism. (Look up that interaction between the two. That's the Catholic response to a Jewish "Israel")
They make him appear merciless and worldly.
Hunter Martinez
And no, it's not anti-Christian or anti-Catholic.
Unless you're literally retarded and somehow interpret it like that.
It's mainly a character study.
Noah Wilson
Pretty good show
Shows Catholics in actual good light, with the Catholics actually believing in the Christianity which doesn't happen very often in movies/tv. Usually they're all just in it for the power and no sort of real spirituality is ever shown. No.
Oliver Green
Yep exactly. Has critiques on Catholicism.
The duality of being an orphan and spiritual orphan. I got alot from that
T. Catholic. Tbh the show lit a fire in me
Thomas Foster
It's not a movie, I think it's a stupid Netflix show. >real spirituality Like what? "Real spirituality" doesn't exist. Spiritual things aren't real.
Cameron Allen
I beg to differ. My father worked as an exorcist during the dearth of exorcists following the Second Vatican Council, given faculties by the local Bishop (now retired) to do so. "Spirits" do exist.
Jackson Roberts
He picks Pius because Pius was "conservative" like himself, then he proceeds to curb stomp degeneracy in the church.
Seems pretty fitting to me.
Although it seems they are implying he became conservative because of his hippie parents, also one homo killed himself because of his anti-faggot stance so that might be some setup for him to see the errors of his ways.
Although he is obviously some sort of saint in the show too so that would contradict him doing wrong.
Aaron Wood
fuck you he said abortion isn't forgivable and it's a HBO show so they had to put gay shit in there >this pope is a saint you guys he heals ppl >he's also cool with homosexuals lol not to mention all the heresies he uttered
I liked the show because I'm a sucker for catholic stuff but I know blasphemy when i see it.
Connor Price
No it's not at all. There are some scenes that are questionable because it shows priests having gay sex, drinking etc. But overall the story is trying to show a pope who says basically enough with the fucking degeneracy and immoral world, and BTFO anyone who tries to question him.
I thought the same thing but it's not. It's red pilled as fuck.
>Like what? "Real spirituality" doesn't exist. Spiritual things aren't real.
wtf are you talking about, spirituality is at the very least subjective.
Dominic Sanchez
Ah well, as I said, I haven't seen it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did a 180 and twisted him to stab at the Church. Probably won't watch it.
Camden Powell
It's another "Look at this Evil Catholics who blasphemy" show.
Non-practican Christian or Atheist may find this redpill though. If you're a Catholic and go to church you may be a little tired of this same old propaganda.
Camden Richardson
Dude, he literally sends a gay priest to freezing Greenland tundra to stay for the rest of his life and die.
Michael Taylor
>My father worked as an exorcist That's fucking hilarious. And you're not ashamed to be the son of such a charlatan? >Spirits" do exist. You sound like a stupid old woman, like one of my aunts who would swear the one aunt's house is haunted. >it's a HBO show So it's even worse than I thought. That's almost as bad as being an AMC show.
Parker Russell
If you do watch tv-shows then I don't see why you wouldn't watch it since it's just as good as any other of the "top" shows right now.
Probably one of the best, if you can do without having to see tits and gore.
It's not you I fufferbale faggot. Just watched it and it turned exactly out how I expected it to be: A giant blasphemy What else could come from something that reads before every episode >Sponsored by the (((European Union)))
Nicholas Sanders
I won't be tired of it if it is realistic. There are problems and it is perfectly fine (and a good idea) to explore them in a mature TV show.
Jose Adams
Eh, it's alright kiddo. We pray for the conversion of you heathens.
Andrew Evans
>dogma a little wrong
Most every time they speak of theology it's embarrassingly bad and they go overboard trying to shame the priests of the church.
That said, the show is very interesting and refreshing otherwise, and has a 10/10 ost.
Mason Moore
Might check it out. We cut off cable since we couldn't even watch the 'family channels' without having viagra or sexual-related ads in between kid's shows. Not to mention all the sodomite propaganda.
In the good days they put the sodomite clergy to death if they were caught a second time after having repenting. Child abusers were immediately put to death. Read St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah.
Nicholas Adams
So for example this clip:
Does the Pope have sex with the girl or what? I feel like it would be more compelling if there was all kinds of 'controversy'; he drinks smokes has lust, etc. but still is a Christian and doesn't give in to some things. So in this clip is he being honest, or is he just out-politicking this Cardinal?
Charles Scott
Trying to shame the priests who are homosexual? Good. The Church shouldn't be filled with men who chose God because they can't love women.
Hudson Bennett
we need more shows like this, great dialogue its 100% truthful. loved every episode and its redpilling power.
Isaiah Adams
Fuck off, Wolfy. Great comeback.
Kevin Brown
It's been explore 1005319853289592 times already.
All Christians fiction do is explore how evil Catholics were.
Christopher Martin
Turn the subtitles on?
Dominic Thomas
that's not the problem with it. I think the whole point of the show was to take show an overwhelmingly rightwing christian turning leftwing. like who fucking cares. it was political bullshit veiled with the gospel.
Adam Ross
>shitty HBO garbage about fag Pope Le based show Fucking hell, the shills are getting bad
Jordan Garcia
No, I mean shaming priests collectively when these people sacrifice so much. They took the idea of the Vatican being corrupt and expressed it to the point of talking shit of the priesthood itself.
Nathaniel Parker
Ok well. This is the first time I have ever posted this here. Or anywhere that I can remember.
This is a picture (of a polaroid, since i have no scanner) of a demon (one of three) that were expelled from a home in Alexandria, LA in the late 1980's.
How does the quote go?
For those who believe, no evidence is necessary, for those who do not believe, no evidence will convince. Something like that.
Connor Butler
>Abortion dogma wrong, etc.
Well I'll post this one since it certainly is something I have never seen on a show discussed in this way:
>Might check it out. We cut off cable since we couldn't even watch the 'family channels' without having viagra or sexual-related ads in between kid's shows. Not to mention all the sodomite propaganda.
lel even this might be too much for a puritan like yourself then
Are you saying it's bad because it's 'supposed' to seem like the Pope is being a big meany to lay-people watching? Because to many Catholics tired of certain things it certainly doesn't sound that way.
Ryder Ramirez
I have five children. Sodomite culture and things of a sexual nature do not belong in their young life. I have souls to raise for heaven; not to corrupt and throw down the toilet like rubbish.
That's not puritanism. Puritanism is making licit pleasures of this world sinful. It is Judaized Protestantism. It is the Jewish ideal that material wealth is a sign of predestination and salvation. Get your terms correct.
Asher Cruz
You can watch it, leave your kids out of it
Luis Turner
This user is right. Its about as deep as a puddle lol.
Zachary Anderson
What the fuck are you doing on this mongolian tapestries weaving forum?
Gabriel Turner
The show gets lots of points from people for being refreshing and interesting but that doesn't stop their theological discussion from being horrid. They try, that's for sure, but they seem to be trying to speak of Catholic thought with a meme understanding of it. I refuse to believe a person who knows Catholic thought wrote the abortion scene.
Zachary Watson
What's that supposed to mean?
Josiah Garcia
What am i supposed to be seeing in this? I haven't watched it. I never heard it of it until it started being shilled here. >things of a sexual nature do not belong in their young life. They have to learn about sex sometime. If you don't teach them they'll learn from somewhere. Do you want your daughters to be sluts?
Jaxson Foster
No. He literally cures her sterility. Literally. I do love how he teaches her how to pray
Jaxson Scott
>fuck you he said abortion isn't forgivable >I liked the show because I'm a sucker for catholic stuff but I know blasphemy when i see it.
You meming or just being a retard?
Samuel Carter
There is one face manifested and one becoming. This was inside of a closet--where the home owner kept his pornography.
Anyone wanting to teach sex to children deserves to be taken out behind the woodshed like a good Southerner does.
Ethan Ward
Trips of truth. Christianity is the only religion thats been battered to death and its openly accepted and encouraged. People have to ask themselves, if the Jews would be mad at them for portraying them in the same light, then its a propaganda hit piece.
Nolan James
Which was a rare attempt at showing contemplative in mainstream television. Glad for it.
Oliver Hall
He's being a Girolamo.
That's scary as fuck.
Gabriel Hughes
its a great show. bump. i liked the fact that i have been everywhere he goes in the show. besides the obvious AMERICANO PAPA
Chase Edwards
>I do love how he teaches her how to pray
Just from the clip OP posted I was astounded that was in this show. That was extremely good. I have never seen anything simple like that explaining the mysticism of Christian prayer on any TV show/movie ever.
Asher Carter
Not gonna lie i took notes from that scene. And the one with Viello talking to Girolamo about sin. Personally loved it.
Catholocism is a pretty interesting contradiction. Adding to its mystique imho.
Ps. I started going to the holy sacrament to just reflect. Im loving it.
Christian Diaz
>contemplative
"Contemplative prayer", I mean.
Luis Long
That's great, man.
Nathan Morales
Does it discuss Lectio Divina/the Rosary/etc. in the same light?
Isaiah Murphy
That's the thing alot of people have a misconception about prayin. Asking for wishes etc... i realized when they mentioned it in the show, prayer is realt serene and in a way to experience and reflect on oneself and how one can reflect on their god given talents in a way to give back to others. Trips of truth.
Question, Kyrie Elieson... what does it mean?
Jackson Howard
>The eternal burger (aka moron) actually thinks this is how you pray Hahahahaha Neck yourself
Gabriel Hill
>Kyrie Elieson Lord, have mercy.
Oliver Hughes
>Anyone wanting to teach sex to children deserves to be taken out behind the woodshed like a good Southerner does. So you want your daughters to learn about sex from some boy who will fuck her and turn her into a slut? You can’t keep basic information from people. >mysticism of Christian prayer You people are so funny with how stupid you are. It's fucking laughable even though it's sad.
Kevin Allen
"Lord, have M ercy"
Adrian Nguyen
Never really touched on it. Remember the show is written through the eyes of either cultural catholics or am atheist. So some dogma is wrong and alot of surface knowledge, however some scenes like I mentioned in OP are good deep thinking scenes
Caleb Stewart
You've been to that tiny little nignog african village?
Nathaniel Flores
>You people are so funny with how stupid you are. It's fucking laughable even though it's sad.
What do you mean?
I'm not telling you to believe anything and don't particulary care. I'm talking about a depiction of Christian mysticism which is something that is rarely ever explored in the mainstream but is absolutely essential to Christian life.
Adam Peterson
When they are old enough they will get the talk. It's liberals like yourself that want to push it in schools and sexualize children before they even develop social skills.
Anthony Johnson
Ok. Ever have a time that you actually reflected in pure quietness?
Elijah Roberts
I don't believe it touches on it at all.
There's no need for arrogance, especially when you have no argument.
Catholic Generals every Sunday if you wish to take part, user.
Logan Wood
>So you want your daughters to learn about sex from some boy who will fuck her and turn her into a slut?
oh fuck off, why are you even on this forum when you're such a stinking lib?
people have been doing fine without "being taught about sex" for thousands of years.
Caleb Collins
I do wolfy. But i miss the theological talks in general. Im actually pretty private about religion. My parents are filipino catholics so you know how that is...
Hudson Martin
t. person who is obviously knowledgeable of Christianity and isn't making shit up
Any thoughts on the ending? I didn't understand his "heartbreak" once he saw what he saw.
Brandon Mitchell
Find yourself a traditional Mass. The silent prayer of the traditional (sometimes called the Tridentine) Mass won't disappoint you.
It is like night and day compared to the Novus Ordo (vernacular or Mass in vulgar [common] language) Mass which was created out of whole cloth in 1969, breaking with 1,800+ years of tradition.
Cooper Long
>So you want your daughters to learn about sex from some boy who will fuck her and turn her into a slut?
This is a fair criticism. Teaching someone shouldn't be the same as promoting such a thing to them. Chastity should be taught as it becomes relevant to the child, which includes discovering what to be chaste from.
Logan Gonzalez
Not related to theology or anything but are there any interesting Swiss Guard scenes?
Caleb Morgan
I would go, but the only Latin mass offered is almost an hour and a half away. I've been to one before. Really serene.
Any basis on the veils that women wear though? Is it a throwback to the traditional church?
Not really sadly, just them saluting and stuff.
There is kangaroos tho.
Dussolier, heathen or not?
Liam Bell
Sex scene with one of them fucking his qt Christian wife
Benjamin James
Ah! Haha, I see. But yeah, I'm a bit surprised how little has come about from the discussion on the generals. Even the atheists in 2014 were a better chat. More serious Protestants though this time.
I'll see what I can do for you next Sunday.
David Harris
The dussolier is for
Christian Robinson
>I'm talking about a depiction of Christian mysticism which is something that is rarely ever explored in the mainstream but is absolutely essential to Christian life. >He thinks seedy photos sprinkled with blasphemy for the sake of cinematography has anything to do Christian faith >Uses the oxymoron "Christian mysticism" Christianity is diametrically opposed to mysticism. Buddhism can be music or paganism Mysticism is heretical by Christian dogma >Thinks a (((EU))) film project is essential to Christian life
Your post is so Moronic if it actually provokes the growth of cancer cells Please consider suicide because passing on this level of stupid is a crime against humanity
Asher Ortiz
It gets literally shitposted and slid by inane talk. Plus also HeWilNotDivideUs
Not gonna lie fellow Sup Forumsacks, i'm not religious, have never been to a church and just decided to watch this show because I was at a friends place and watched it whilst drinking and passing time.
This show, unlike any other got to me that I can't explain. It's a bit funny, a bit outlandish, dramatic, and spiritual. The reality of politics and personal agendas with the subtlety of religious undertones.
I haven't a clue how to precisely put it, but it's a show that I can't stop watching.
