Why does Sup Forums hate libertarians so much?

Why does Sup Forums hate libertarians so much?

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It used to be all libertarians around here but now it's switched to white power. I guess the latter is more edgy, it's tough to tell why crowds of people start following one idea after another.

Sup Forums = libertarians + race realism

Sup Forums hates freedom

Its senseless. You cannot have a functioning society in a libertarian world.

Id rather have all the luxuries of modern life thanks.

Being embarrassed of who you were 6 months ago is a time-honored American tradition.

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I'm not sure you know what Libertarianism is

Because pol is made up of uninformed, non critically thinking drones.

Like this guy

Too wishful. Libertarians think everything gonna work out ok if you just make an even playing field and hope for utopian ubermensch. They always ignore destructive forces working to subvert the cultural and racial components of society, they have no answer for it in their ideology.

Because WE AUTHORITARIANS N SHIET NOW.

fuckin wot

Because theres no such thing as middle ground. Take a side.

Components of the libertarian ideology would work very well in a homogenous society, but there has to be some hard set rules that cannot be subverted.

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Because it's suddenly cool to be for authoritarian sanctioned racism.

>muh gubberment is the source of all evil in the world
>society can magically arrange itself into a utopian paradise if we just allow the mega corporations free reign and disband the legislation that separates us from the animal kingdom
>seriously did i tell you about how bad the gument is like seriously
>le not an argument man
>if you really think about it the world operates on the basis of the free market that's why child slavery should be legalised it will totally work out i promise
>there is no such thing as borders but i'll shoot you if you walk onto my natural property borders

ancaps will defend this

inb4 ancap isn't true libertarianism.

this, i fucking hate them.

They sound like low-educated retards.

yeah "if everyone just play along nicely we can all prosper" is something libs and ancaps genuinely believe will happen.

really makes you think

>Libertarianism wants limited government
>Anarcho Capitalism wants no government

exactly, this and the whole "mhh free market will solver everywthing magicali"

-->like clockwork

>yet another monkey hating on ancaps
If the shithole that is Brazil being anti-libertarianism isn't proof of how good libertarianism is, I don't know what other proof you need.

true libertarianism is about freedom of exclusion, exclusion of those who do not respect you, your property and your people.

Sup Forums is Libertarian.

We just like watching the trumptards sperg out.

No where on earth does libertarianism exist nor will it ever.

See

Any actually libertarian state working 2017? USA obviously isn't it.

Lolbertarians are good at heart but childish, hence the name.
The main problem is that if you have a society where everyone is totally individualistic, ANY group working together will easily dominate.
In evolutionary strategy terms, the whole thing is completely fragile & susceptible to invasion.

45% Spics, niggers, muslims, and jews thats why

Im a libertarian/liberal at heart, but I understand that there are groups and institutions on all sides besides the government trying to subvert your freedom. There are ideas and thoughts that will corrupt weak men and convince them to seek their freedom and their brother's freedom for comfort. These ideas must be destroyed.
So you have to become pretty United I'm ideals and values to protect yourself and your neighbors. The free state always falls to statist invaders.

Small government and big guns, but strength in numbers and community.

A lot of libertarians believe in borders though, whether it's drawn across property lines or they want to hire a border patrol firm for something to handle it. Hoppe and I think later Rothbard advocated for restrictions on immigration too.

Exactly this for me. I'm ok living in a diverse society actually (as an American) but it should still be 85-90% white. European countries should be 95-99% white.

Libertarians they believe in personal accomplishment over winning the racial lottery as the true measure of a man.

Sup Forumstards are fat teenage white beta males.

Anarchy doesn't exist anywhere. However, libertarianism exists on many places, the biggest one being Switzerland. They are swimming in money because of good libertarian tax policies, their society is civilized, they don't engage in wars, they don't get flooded with migrants, etc. Current America is a Keynesian mess but the American constitution and old core American values were also very libertarian. Libertarianism is one of the reasons why America is the most successful country in the world.

Agreed

Diverse society, but they shouldn't leech too much of the gibsmedats and shouldn't be more violent than the whites. I can enjoy that.

>Sup Forums want closed boarders to keep out uneducated 3rd worlders who are culturally inclined to vote for larger government
>Libertarians want open boarders because "restricting migration is big government restricting personal liberty"

And there are a couple more minor examples, but you get the point. Sup Forums is a bit more authoritarian on the sliding scale of libertarian/authoritarian then big L Libertarianism. In many ways, we are libertarian, just when faced with the conundrum "by following libertarian philosophy to the letter, do I actually endanger the freedoms that libertarianism promotes" we choose not to let our principles override our common sense.

>implying its not
>implying society is centrally planned
>not an argument
>literally not an argument against not an argument
>implying people would support child slavery (a violation of the nap) in the free market
>you can own private property but a magical group of people who proclaim authority over you owns the land in which your property exist

Sell their freedom*

Fucking mobile

Libertarians are just pussies and dont connect the dots on how humanity should really live.

No government. No man should rule over another.

Government naturally gets large and oppressive. A large and oppressive gov is what we have today. It is not natural for humanity to live under such a regime.

Humanity deserves to live free in their own small communities, ideally. That requires them to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for their community.

Because they used to be ones.

>Tfw I live the ruins of a libertarian empire

Sup Forums wants to be the most different

But

WHO BUILDS THE ROADS

Be a national libertarian

Freedom for its people, but TOW missiles for its enemies.

It would never work as a super power who goes to war all the time, but as a neutral country it would dominate (I.e. Switzerland)

>Why does Sup Forums hate everyone so much?

ftfy, you self absorbed faggot

Because apparently they're open borders
So fuck em

Because we realized Libertarianism cannot exist when we have radical leftists, muslims, jews, etc. who hate white people.

Especially in the west. In places like eastern europe with 99% white populations, libertarianism is the way to go

(You) have no idea what the fuck Sup Forums is and should probably stop talking and do a bit moar lurking, senpai.

Without government assistance programs to lure foreigners, open borders wouldn't be an issue.

this

We're basically Libertarian Nationalists, if ever there was such a thing.

Bootlickers can fuck off.

Yes they would.

Why did people immigrate to America in the first place?

>THREE MARGED REEEEEEEEEEE ((autistic screeching))

Lolibertarians will be the first to go on the day of the rope

Because they stand in opposition to a lot of racialist or national socialist policies, but they're "closer" to Sup Forums than outright leftists. The harshest political fights are between the closest ideologies.

because they have no integrity.

liberalism needs to be balanced by this thing called morals, or a set of principles to never be encroached upon. otherwise you get 65,000$ of tax payer dollars flying in "pizza and hotdogs" from chicago.

Back then people moved to America because they wanted the opportunity to build a life for themselves out of nothing, not because they wanted gibs.

Do you seriously think a welfare sucking spic would move to North Dakota in the 1800s?

real libertarians believe in small voluntary communities.The LP is just filled with lefty hipsters who just want to have a special snowflake political label and want their turn to rule.

>Libertarianism focuses on personal accomplishments
>Therefore smart and dedicated people would thrive in a libertarian society
>Sup Forums hates libertarianism
>90% of Sup Forumsacks are NEETs

Hmmmmm really makes your neurons tingle

>no context
>thinks ancap memes are actual beliefs

So how is this better than them being gibsmedats?

You're still getting pumped with low iq low income foreigners who will erode the country'a value system and eventually create a big government with gibsmedat

Hate? No.
We are just frustrated they chose flight over fight.

Oh fuck off you brainwashed socialist filth

They are mentally children. I think they are also just objectively wrong about everything because they simply do not understand how humans, society and life works.

Humans are not individual, autonomous, deracinated units. We are social creatures and we are designed to live communally.

A small or weak government will not necessarily result in more human freedom, in fact it will almost certainly result in less.

The freedom to whatever you want without any regard to how it effects society as a whole is not the highest priority in life.

Using force and coercion is not inherently bad.

Government or "the State" is not inherently bad.

I could go on......libertarians are race blind which is of course just straight up dumb......like trying to solve a math problem but ignoring part of the equation because you do not like it. Of course you will get the wrong answer.

Ultimately it is just a silly ideology that should not be taken seriously by any adult.

Yeah this is really the main reason I hate libertarians. Same reason why ex-Christian fundies are some of the most obnoxious atheists.

Zeal of the de-converted.

How are they not at this point?

I'm probably responding to bait but there's no legitimate way you can defend an ideology that promotes the notion that society can arrange itself impeccably without the facilitation of force. You're sitting here posting on an image board on a computer that is only possible in an arranged and legislated society you fucking dolt.

Well 30 years from now the American empire will be a thriving libertarian nationalist state. Stay cucked Ahmed

>current year
>trying to debate Memes™
you truly are a bright person

>people cant be trusted to run their own lives
>we must make a government run by people

no victim no crime, violations of the NAP are crimes that warrant self protection. Logically explain how scribbles on paper (laws) prevent crime? Logically explain why how the government police force can have a monopoly on force yet have no obligation to give you services ( Warren V. DC)

Cultural enrichment via Truck has put an end to that

Imagine being this autistic.......

Sup Forums changes with the times. The rise of far-left politics caused a rise of far-right politics to counter. Every action has an equal reaction etc.

>I've been here since summer!

libertarianism has themes of self reliance and depending on yourself and most people on chan sites are useless NEETS who can't even make their own bed so need some big government to be their surrogate parent

autism

more autism

being like liberals except muh economic freedum

being inconsistent

not realize their ultimate freedom is a chimera and not seeing the consequences of pursuing it

Because no one on this board thinks for themselves, they let shitty sites like Breitbart and CNN tell them the news and then listen to a bunch of 15 year old autistic retards on this website

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Libertarianism doesn't presuppose immorality, it just says that you can't expect a central gov't to define morality and enforce it

Unless you view morality as a drawback, there's nothing keeping a Libertarianism society acting morally

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THis bait is really retarded,

Sup Forums is largely libertarian or at least libertarian-sympathizers.

>I love assuming all other people are as autistically retarded as I am

HAHAHA
fucking freaks

I don't, but I'm also not into a lot of the racism and nazi fetishism Sup Forums memes. I also don't think the altright can lay claim to Sup Forums and a lot of the memeing isn't meant to be taken seriously or are people trolling.
Most ideologies taken to the extreme break down.

>Wanting smaller government means Libertarians want people to stab each other
And this one is just plain retarded

*to be able to stab each other

Unfortunately there are a lot of immoral people in the world who would take advantage of a completely libertarian society. In an ideal world we could all rely on people to govern themselves judiciously, be reasonable, and there would be an excess of donated resources.

Why do you faggots ALWAYS think government and individual liberty are somehow mutually exclusive?

You can have a centrally panned, state run society and enjoy the personal freedoms that can come with it. Just because you can't run a androgynous child sex trafficking ring doesn't mean your freedoms are being violated. But I know you mongs can only see the world in black and white so it's pointless trying to convince you that government is a necessary facet to society when niggers, spics and jews run amok in most developed countries.

>logically explain how scribbles on paper prevent crime

Please prove this point by going on a shotgun spree in a shopping mall then. I'm sure those scribbles are going to still mean nothing to you when you're being schlonged by DeShawn in the showers awaiting execution.

yeah right bro people cry about "muh degeneracy" all the time because people use the cannabis plant and think hemp should be a part of the economy.

People here are socially conservative and authoritarian as fuck.

Sigh here we go again.

Maybe because this place has been duped into the whole totalitarian fascist state edgy trend?

>Immigration is a particularly difficult subject. There is no doubt that free and open immigration is the right policy in a libertarian state, but in a welfare state it is a different story: the supply of immigrants will become infinite.

pretty much this but why the fuck do the most people here praise national(((Socialism))) when they fear a socialist society? do they just mantle their racism with an political view?