A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be a baby

>A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be a baby
>A piece of metal is a car because it has the potential to be one
>A virgin is a pornstar because it has the potential to have sex

Nice arguments Sup Forums

How is a human fetus not human?

So if I murdered a pregnant women it's only one charge of murder right?

>What is an organic being?

>leaf
2/10 put more effort next time

it's Americlaps being Americlaps (being retarded)

Half of them don't believe in global warming and about a third think the world was made in 6 days.

a scrap of metal is not a fetus. You can re purpose scrap metal to whatever you want. What are you gonna do with a bunch of cells that die.

>Think before you fuck

It is the only solution

A fetus is always destined to end up as a human being, miscarriages etc. aside.
A piece of metal can end up being literally anything.

No, a fetus is a human because it meets all the scientific requirements to be a unique life all its own. From the moment of conception, its DNA is distinct from the mother's.

A fetus is just a stage of human development.

The difference is that a human fetus (assuming nothing bad happens) WILL become a person.
The others only have the chance to become what you said.

Murder.

>it has the potential to be a baby

No it is a baby already. It's a human being

So I killed a marxist, but he could have changed his ideas and had the potential to be human.

A fetus is a human being in development and once it's born he will still a human in development until he reached a certain age so that doesn't make him less or more human.

Also reported and saged for being a canadian shitposter.

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If people who believe those things are dumber, then were people who lived hundreds of years ago significantly less intelligent than people today?

left in its natural environment a fetus will develop into a human baby.
left in its natural environment a piece of metal will rust
left in its natural environment a virgin will post bullshit on Sup Forums


Being pro life isnt about tellling woman what they can do to their own bodies, its about telling them what they cant do to the bodies of an unborn human being.

who is this pure aryan christian waifu???

>Killing a fetus is killing a human
"Yes, so?"

strawman. The argument to which you're referring isn't "A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be a baby;" it's "A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be alive."
sage kys

A
FUCKING
LEAF

>An onion leek is an onion because it will grow up to become an onion.
>A tree sapling is a tree because it will grow and become a tree.
>A leaf should be burned, because it has the potential to grow up and become a Canadian

Isn't potential enough for legal protection?

If a being has the anticipated future of being a human being like you or I, then isn't that something worth protecting?

The arguments in this thread are incoherent.

Do you THINK your opponents are debating if a fetus is human, or has human DNA?

What you are proposing in your position is that there is something inherently magical and worthwhile about a fetus,

something so IMPORTANT
that you think it worth trumping the wishes of an adult human female that society has spent money on already, training, educating, growing.

What you are trying to argue is that person, that adult, should not have access to medicine because of the 'soul' of the unborn trapped inside, that she doesn't want.

What you are trying to argue is that a woman should be kept pregnant, against her will.

What you are trying to argue is that there should be some special intervention into medicine because SEX AND RELIGION.

FUCK YOUR FEELS.

Society will not be improved by unwanted pregnancys. We have enough difficulty adequately meeting the needs of the current population.

All human beings should be wanted and cared for, educated to the best of our ability and given the most opportunity to success available to them.

Being the bastard spawn of a single mother is a curse that YOU ARE TRYING TO INFLICT ON OTHERS
because of MORALITY ON SEX based in archaic, regressive, religious terms.

Theres no such thing as a soul, this is an argument about access to medicine, grow up.

I anticipate my nuts. Your argument is stupid. We aren't short on humans, and we're not at risk of running out of them any time soon.

your final statement, the first part at least, is entirely based on your own FEELS.

That's a shitty argument.
Go break the fertilized eggs of an endangered bird or reptile and see how far that argument gets you.

Yeah, but it is.

You have to never stick your dick in a blue lady. Because magic baby soul.

>What you are proposing in your position is that there is something inherently magical and worthwhile about a fetus,
strawman and appeal to the stone fallacy, as I'm sure is the rest of your post.
sage kys

This. Also a fetus with a beating heart is it's own person at that point.

>We aren't short on humans, and we're not at risk of running out of them any time soon.

Doesn't matter. The law is supposed to elevate the status of human beings.

Are you guys just going to ignore the anticipated future of the fetus? Like that's something that isn't valuable?

>For killing babies.
>Against the death penalty.
>Compares babies to cars and degenerates.
Liberals.

your gonna have to explain to me what a blue lady is or im just gonna assume your drunk.

>Killing a child isn't murder because it might have died naturally

ebin
post more blacked or fuck off you imbecile leaf

Why? I'm guessing MUH FEELINGS because of the romanticized figure of a heart beat

Is a seed a plant?

>not being for killing nigger babies
what is with the Cuckservatives?

Or rather "A fetus has value because (not necessarily only because) it has the potential to be alive," in case some faggot were to want to quibble about semantics and the word "human."
sage

It is.

Yeah

> potential to be a baby
you mean, WILL be a baby if left alone

No, because they didn't have the instruments to understand that they were wrong.
Modern people who believe those things are dumber.

Here's some better arguments for you abortion fags:

>We have 7 billon people already and we don't need more.

>Any woman who would kill her unborn shouldn't be allowed to have one anyway.

>Abortion is cheaper than welfare

The "is not human" is crap. Fucking own it and stop with the beautiful lies.
Life is ugly, momma cats eats thier kittens sometimes. Whatever. Just stop with the bullshit.

>left alone a fetus will become a baby
>left alone a piece of metal will become a car
>left alone a virgin will become a pornstar
see the difference here?

The only thing a fetus can grow into is a baby you moron

A fetus is a human because HE IS a human.

A human is a human based on his DNA, not on his looks

Difference is a fetus will become a baby, unless the are complications with the pregnancy

Technically speaking, yes.

No, retard.
A fetish Is a human because he has a complete, unique human genome and all moments You can choose to "bestow" him humanity are arbitrary except conception.
Since he Is a human he has human rights.
You either accept This or agree with motherfucking Peter Singer.

>Punch pregnant woman in the belly and get charged with murder when she miscarries
>Woman is allowed to abort baby 9 months into pregnancy and is just "expressing her rights"

What do they mean by this?

Um, yeah.

But why is killing a human wrong? civilization basically is the agreement of when killing people is justified, the "life is sacred" bullshit is semitic subversive crap to create cucks.

That serves as a better argument for to stop sending aid to africa and instituting a certificate based child having system or sterilizing the people under 100 IQ.

>A fetish Is a human because he has a complete, unique human genome and all moments

its just a clump of fucking cells
it has no sense of self, no experience, does not feel pain

conception is a fucking chemical reaction, it has no moral significance other than the one spiritualist and religious retards impose on it

god does not have a fucking plan for this cluster of biological cells

wake the fuck up you normies

stop policing what other people choose to do. you don't get to tell people how to live

Here come the walking caricatures...

"Are you a cuck? NIGGERS! Abortion culls the NIGGER population, you cuck!"

If I leave the metal alone it wont become a car
If I leave the virgin alone it will stay a virgin

If you leave the fetus alone it can be born

its imorral to cause suffering to conscious creatures

human life does not have intrinsic value
no reason why it should

the value comes from experiences it can have, and consciousness

>something so IMPORTANT
>that you think it worth trumping the wishes of an adult human female that society has spent money on already, training, educating, growing.
why not use birthcontrol if you don't want to get pregnant?
if you're not smart enough to use protection doesn't mean you should be allowed to murder

At least use proper punctuation you potato.

>conception is a fucking chemical reaction, it has no moral significance other than the one spiritualist and religious retards impose on it
>Starting point of creating a new being
>No moral significance

Are you mentally challenged or is the fedora actually a brain eating parasite?

>stop policing what other people choose to do. you don't get to tell people how to live

So how about removing the entire law code?

>A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be a baby
No one on Sup Forums makes this argument.

Human beings are formed at conception. There are no ifs, ads or buts.

When women miscarriage, they've lost their child.


None of you pro-abortionists would have the GULL to tell a woman who miscarried that the child she lost was a clump of cells.

NONE. OF. YOU.
Let that sink in.

>its just a clump of fucking cells
>it has no sense of self, no experience, does not feel pain
prove it

nice ID garth

Definition
>a (1) : the grains or ripened ovules of plants used for sowing (2) : the fertilized ripened ovule of a flowering plant containing an embryo and capable normally of germination to produce a new plant; broadly : a propagative plant structure (as a spore or small dry fruit)
>part of a plant
>plant structure
So it is a plant then, also a fetus is more like a planted seed, not like a single seed.

>its imorral to cause suffering to conscious creatures

A lot of other things are also immoral, not just that. Like sexual degeneracy, or valuing your own species life lower than that of a bird.

>human life does not have intrinsic value
no reason why it should

Are you trying to prove you are the most fedora in the world?

>the value comes from experiences it can have, and consciousness

No m8 value comes from what ever people find valuable. From a monetary and moral stance you can have value in human life simply from it's potential.

A seed that has sprouted is indeed a plant.
Learn your biology.

This.

Their argument holds the burden.

>So how about removing the entire law code?
of course there have to be laws that stop people from harming other people, idiot. if you disagree with abortion you can suck it. if you disagree with gay marriage you can suck it

>Are you mentally challenged or is the fedora actually a brain eating parasite?
not an argument

>Starting point of a new being
how is it the starting point, but sperm isn't? conception has no significance

>What is stem cell research?

A fetus is a human because it pleases us to ruin whore lives.

>GULL
the word you were looking for is gall but other than that not a bad post for a fucking leaf

I like /pol and i support trump but i never understood the dumbass pro-life thing here. I thought you guys were smarter than that. It's only better to allow abortion, dont let a baby live with parents that didnt even fucking wanted him. You guys eat animals and steps on insects but care about a foetus, brilliant.

Because of the Categorical Imperative.

nice false eqeuvalence

>A lot of other things are also immoral, not just that. Like sexual degeneracy, or valuing your own species life lower than that of a bird.
>Sexual degeneracy is immoral
nope, people can do that as much as they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. its not up to you. thats what i'm saying

>the difference is that fetus will become a baby

Nice meme.

The fetus will become a baby, which will die.
Might as well just send it back to god on the fast track.

Can you stop posting her?
I think of blacked everytime, I hate that site.

abortion is murder.

No, because that would be an autistic thing to say because it regards the feelings and value that the mother holds to it.

If it has no value to the mother then it is a clump of cells. Personal value comes into play in this argument.

I don't believe in god.
And don't give me that "clump of cells" crap. Since I know damn well most pro-choicers still want abortions much later than that. And I'm fine with that. Just stop sanitizing it and own it you fucks.

I'm so sick of the bullshit and this culture of trying to free everyone from the gravity of their choices.

A seed is a plant. Don't bother replying.

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>>A fetus is a human because it has the potential to be a baby
>No one on Sup Forums makes this argument.
>Human beings are formed at conception. There are no ifs, ads or buts.
>When women miscarriage, they've lost their child.
>None of you pro-abortionists would have the GULL to tell a woman who miscarried that the child she lost was a clump of cells.
>NONE. OF. YOU.
>Let that sink in.

lmfao ive done it before

fuck you. ill do anything you think i give a shit?

Why is murder bad? Because it removes the potential a human could have to do good, and hurts the people that cared about that person.

How is abortion any fucking different? It's murder, but we accept it because it is better than letting some nigger ruin shit because his mom didn't want him after getting knocked up by Tyrone

>human life does not have intrinsic value

what a wretched creature you must be

>None of you pro-abortionists would have the GULL to tell a woman who miscarried that the child she lost was a clump of cells.
>NONE. OF. YOU.
>Let that sink in.
Leftists are nuts, there was an image of a kikebook post of a woman grieving with her miscarriage and some faggot telling her something like "Get over it LOL XD", I wish I saved that pic.

> a piece of metal if left alone will eventually become a car

Now gtfo.

K leaf

neither plants nor seeds, nor embryos are conscious.
humans are

"don't bother replying"

Yeah I raped a priest and told him that god made me.

Fuck god and fuck white people. I RAPED VIRGIN MARY WITH MY BBC

>a baby is a human because it has the potential to be an adult

we actually disagree then. if it has consciousness and ANY amount of perception, it should not be aborted
then it IS immoral

>plants have no conscious

prove it

When is this board getting around to banning leafs?

>I'm so sick of the bullshit and this culture of trying to free everyone from the gravity of their choices.


I'm so sick of the bullshit and this culture of trying to free women from the gravity of their choices.

FTFY

False equivalencies. You're comparing a human life to a car. You're an idiot.

"I will always love you, son."

>nope, people can do that as much as they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. its not up to you. thats what i'm saying
>Morality is only about harming others
>Setting harmful societal trends is not immoral

Is this your first time understanding of morality?

A lot of immoral things will not have any direct repercussions on others, for example you can be a heroin junkey that does no harm to others. You still are doing damage to yourself and your future as well as side effects like bringing a bad light on your society.

As for societal trends. Since humans are social animals if enough people are proponents of a harmful thing it will propagate.

human life has a lot of value
but its not just magically there
its not intrinsic
i see value in human life for a reason
you don't

why does killing a pregnant woman count as a double homicide.
checkmate fag

How about you motherfucking keep your legs closed and fucking act like a goddamned adult instead of "Muh orgasms without consequences! Muh pleasure!" Fucking briticuck. I'd fucking make it a rule if you abort then you'd never have kids for the rest of your barren life.