>illegals do the jobs the americans dont want
I heard that from my english teacher, whern we talked about immigration and the US (subject topic for this semester)
Is it actually true? Seems like illegals have positions in politics or just above average jobs?
leftist drivel ?
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If gang rape count as a job
i don't think neither us are qualified to say this Björn
Yes. It's leftist drivel. There are plenty of poor whites looking for work in America.
Poor white Americans are more than happy to take a shit job if it pays the bills.
Whats hindering them to get these jobs?
Hows that regulated? IF it's being regulated
well when your employer undercuts the wage you have agreed upon, by hiring some subhuman who lives in a piss-stained room with 30 others, yeah usually people wouldn't want to continue doing the job, especially if they're already barely getting by
bump for interest
-Drug smuggling
-rape
-murder
-car theft
-robbery
It's champagne socialist horseshit. The upper class, and to an extent upper-middle class, largely don't realize how shit the working class have it in this country.
Why would a company hire an American if it can hire a Mexican who can pay him few dollars less per hour? Answer yourself.
PS: The stuff you learn in english are mostly lies or blatant propaganda
Disney fired 3k IT workers so they could bring in H1B visas to sand niggers. It's not that we won't do the labor, it's giant companies like Disney that fuck Americans over.
>>illegals do the jobs the americans dont want
Ha! It's not that Americans wouldn't do the job. It's that an American wouldn't work that hard for that what they pay.
t. guy who grew up around farms that involved pickers
idk. urbanite faggots make up the majority, and they don't want to pick strawberries or whatever, but natives from the sticks would happily do it for a reasonable wage, and unemployed people from the city could be put up in the country during the summer for that sort of work.
Cook, cleaner, busboy, waiter, cleaner, all of my professional white collar adult relatives in their 50s have stories about how they did these jobs when they were teenagers and just out of college.
Fruit picking was done by various whites and non-whites throughout most of the 20th century.
In reality the immigrants have changed the standard 'stages' of growing up that the past 5 generations of traditional (white) Americans have established for ourselves.
We didn't feel we were superior to those positions, the latinos just came in and established themselves there within the span of a single generation, causing the increase in white unemployed.
look up Ann Coulter for some nice facts you can use to argue with the teacher.
so generally speaking capitalism fucks the little man
Tell the English teacher to go back to the U.S. and that he isn't welcome there.
Companies have bullshit diversity quotas.
Even if they don't say it, they do. I have a buddy that has blue eyes, blonde hair, a last name of -ski and 1/64 Indian and the rest Polish slav tier genes with a in him but his family was still registered with a tribe so he was seen in the eyes of his company as 100% Indian and he got the job while they told me they weren't hiring.
It's like cops saying they don't have arrest quotas, but every cop that I've really talked with say they have to hit a number of arrests or their job is in jeopardy.
It's not that American's don't "want" to do those jobs it's that they don't pay well enough to warrant breaking your back doing them.
Stupid illegals are all too willing to kill themselves over poverty-tier wages.
They abuse the fuck out of hospitals with fake injuries to get pills, which they sell to middle school kids to supplement their income which is usually under the table small jobs.
They are a plague.
Greed, not capitalism fucks the common man. Communism and socialism don't have the jobs to take away in the first place. So they have to offer their people to capitalist countries for dirt wages.
Illegals do the jobs white middle class liberals don't want.
>I heard that from my english teacher, whern we talked about immigration
should have been talking about grammar
So...
in other words, Mexicans do the jobs that Americans won't do?
Isn't that exploitation?
They do the jobs Americans don't want, and those jobs usually pay less than minimum wage. Might as well say, "Niggers do the jobs the white man don't have the time for".
Ask her: When the illegal would enter the country legally, Will he not be able to work anymore? Will his arms fall off because he has followed the law?
>leafposting
Mexicans steal the jobs that Americans will do, but I suppose it doesn't matter to tell anyone that anymore. They're all going back.
He's German. Don't be too hard on him for speaking a second language.
Save that banter for the Brits
Picking vegetables and shit is about it. Construction, factory and stem are jobs that qualified Americans get fucked out of by Illegals (including visa overstays)
Arnold here gets it
How come he can't work anymore when he is legal? You have a strange system. Legal immigrants are forbidden to work?!?
Atleast I'm not a dirty olive-nigger molesting goats on a hill
It's drivel, but like all lies there is a kernel of truth. Whites don't want to do the jobs because Illegals do it for far below minimum wage and are forced to work overtime with no compensation, kept in line by the threat of deportation. You can blame the American upper class and your farmers for that, they abuse the situation for a cheap workforce that borders on slavery which also conveniently votes for the political party they tend to prefer..
If Mexicans could just get on welfare right after jumping the border, they would and they'd stop being maids and produce and pickers overnight. There's no genetics in the mexican DNA that makes them want to do physically demanding monotonous work. If there was Mexico would be a third world shithole, would it?
>Import illegals
>Give out tons of gibs
>Cost of labor driven down by illegals
>Americans no longer feel like breaking their backs picking fruit for pennies when they could have gibs
>Muh gawd, illegal immigration was needed all along!
The problem isn't that Americans are unwilling to do these jobs, so much as employers are unwilling to pay a fair wage. People like your professor who are ABOVE blue collar work just turn their nose up at people that are becoming unemployed as a result because they want to pay lower prices for food since they're living on a educators salary.
What type of school do you attend? English teacher here, rule number 1: don't talk politics or religion.
Fuck, your teacher is a shit cunt.
Construction workers and tradesmen in high Mex areas are fucked. Greedy contractors won't hire whites.
We need a bounty system for companies who hire illegals.
>Be a farmer
>pay jose and his buddies 50 bucks (total) to pick your tomatoes
or
>pay legal workers minimum wage ~10bucks an hour, also pay benefits, and abide by labour laws
Alternativley
Be Resturant owner
>pay Enrique 5 dollars an hour to do deliveries
or
>pay legal workers minimum wage, benefits, shit ton of paper work, etc.
It really is that simple. Go into any major city and you'll see mexican workers who speak no English doing All the menial jobs that used to go to kids, losers, and others. Most people don't even notice it desu.
Well, i'ts quite different here. The whole immigration topic is curriculum here aswell. Never been to colombia.
sounds like what's going on here with Polish and Romanian manual labour. I see those customs patrol cars buzzing around all the time.
>Libtards say all Mexicans are good for is cleaning toilets of white Americans.
THAT'S RACIST.
I also really need to emphasize just how immoral a position in favor of illegal immigration is.
Vertually the entire argument in favor of it is that illegal immigrants, being entitled to less government services, and willing to work for shit wages, may be a net negative to the economy.
Yet countries like Canada also have plenty of need for cheap workers, and thus take in farm workers through programs like the TFW program, which in itself is criticized but lets get past that for a moment. I mean, if you don't have illegal immigration, than you actually have to give RIGHTS to any immigrants you need to do stuff like farm work. The left is firmly against the idea that we should just take in the immigrants we need to do farm work, and give them actual rights, no, that's IMMORAL!
What we need to do is favor whatever people feel entitled to hop an international border and work without a visa, even if the country they're coming from really isn't THAT poor.
It's insane, the left is in favor of taking in illegal mexican labor that will inevitably get mistreated to undercut their countrymens jobs. They call this morality.
Americans "don't want" those jobs because employers go out of their way to avoid hiring Americans because Americans can sue them for mistreating them and they're legally obligated to pay Americans at least minimum wage. None of those things apply to illegals, who legally don't exist.
Further it is worth noting that there are many useless eaters who would avoid min wage jobs anyway because they've figured out how to ensure a constant stream of income from the government while selling their body/drugs/stolen goods under the table to avoid paying taxes.
But how do they pay taxes when they work illegal? How do they pay for new roads and other infrastructure? If you get caught hiring illegal workers overhere the fines are huge.
Consumption taxes?
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"Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans comprise 47 percent of workers in these occupations."
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Check out: "Claims That We Need Low-Skilled Workers Are False."
Cheap. Labor.
$5 per hour for a Mexican
that is pure crap. just attempted brainwashing. repeat it enough until people accept it.
Really? could you give me some info?
>IF you get caught
not much enforcement, and sometimes the choice is btw hiring illegals or loosing the business.
The only taxes they pay are sales tax.
Does he also pay the taxes like an american would do? Doesn't the illegal use your infrastructure?
Using something and letting other people pay for it: parasite
Why don't you go to the US illegally, Colombia? Just interested.
Ironic leftist drivel, because it's actually a shill for the corporations they claim to hate.
Translation, "Illegals do the job for wages that Americans won't accept."
all schools and all subjects are full of indoctrination. We discuss Islam stuff in economics, the holocaust in all subjects, multiculti success stories in history and English etc.
Greed.
Cheaper labor
easier to abuse
>pro-immigration think tank find that immigration is good
WOW
Of course not. If they are illegal workers they don't pay taxes.
You know what happens when americans don't want to do the shitty jobs and there are no immigrants?
The wages have to increase.
They said that about slavery as well.
So if Trump wants to keep corporations but deports illegals, wouldn't that be a contradiction?
native people would take up all those jobs provided they got paid fairly and by fairly I mean able to survive on their income alone
>American employers refuse to pay proper wages, so they hire illegals
ftfy OP
>cleaning toilet jobs
>nobody wants to do them
>no immigrants
>wages double overnight because these jobs have to be done
>more people suddenly want to do the job
It's not hard.
Immigrants keep these shit jobs, low paid.
They're always referring to incredibly shitty jobs, mostly hard labor in bad conditions, like picking fruit harvests and shit. It is true that it's all mexicans doing the work, and that americans don't want to do it (here's the important part) at the slave wages they pay the shitskins to do it.
Is that the only taxes that exist? The employer doesn't pay taxes on his worker and the workers on their income? How do you pay for your electricity networks/roads/bridges/public transport/water etc. The government (taxpayers) pays nothing for these things?
>Illegals do the jobs Americans don't want
So, you're literally exploiting them to maintain your quality of life, then? Taking advantage of cheap brown people so white people don't have to do it?
Liberals will never be able to counter that.
this 95% true. while illegals come here and do shitty jobs that most of us wouldn't do.
in comparison you got millennials that go to college for a useless degree in the end are in massive debt and become SJW full time.
I'd keep the illegals and send these fucks to Mexico instead.
Americans don't want those jobs because illegal immigrants drive down the wages to the point where you're better off on welfare than doing them. So when leftists tell you Americans don't want to do those jobs, they forget to tell you that this is a result of their retarded policies.
That is exactly the case.
Illegal mexicans are your equivalent of poles and romanians, asia's equivalent of flips, and mideast's equivalent of bangladeshis
>Is it actually true?
Not in the slightest. It's just a stereotypical viewpoint of racist limousine liberals.
If you have a read at both, you gather that U.S citizens are willing to take any jobs that come their way dispelling the "illegals do the jobs Americans dont want" idea and that the only reason why Americans wouldn't take certain jobs is because of unfair competition from Illegals.
I never understand why the focus is not on the part that they do not contribute to the general costsbof the country. If you share an appartment in Belgium you are supposed to contribute to the costs of rent/water/electricity. You would not be allowed to share an appartment and not pay your part of the costs. We would kick someone like that out of the house.
it is true.
Trumpfags don't want this work, they all want to work in muh iron factory.
Yes, your country did not have fastfood workers, construction workers or plumbers before Mutti flooded you with mudslimes.
All the streets were dirty because no one else wanted to clean them and nobody got their mail because no one wanted to be mail men.
Property taxes are paid by mexicans indirectly if they're renting.
Income taxes aren't paid at all.
It's a bit of a narrow minded meme to say mexicans pay NO taxes, which is why Romney shoved his foot a mile up his mouth when he said 47% of Americans paid no taxes. It's simply not true.
Illegal immigrants pay substantially less taxes, but they have much less entitlement to government services. They'll still use roads and hospitals will still take them in, but some services are shut off. The economic argument in favor of taking them in is that hey, if these guys cost us less in government services, and keep food prices down, aren't they great? Just ignore the sheer immorality of relying on illegal labor so you can deprive them of government services rather than using legal immigrant labor, the left has its ethics twisted up in a fucking knot.
This is why they propose stuff like the DREAM act, because inherantly they know they're abusing the mexicans, and they feel bad about it, so they try to fix the damage they intentionally create instead of doing everything legitimately.
What I believe is really turning the tide hard is the cratering of the labor force participation rate has severely undermined the wisdom of the "lets just let people run over the border and do our farm work" idea. Americans are working less and less hours, so why are they letting illegal aliens stream across the border and undercut Americans?
And let other people pay for the infrastructure. Is your infrastructure really that great that you don't need millions of people to pay for them?
most cucked comment of the day
>no one wanted to be mail men
not true, there more germans (whites) doing that than achmeds abd such
That's fucking stupid. 10 million working age men don't have jobs. They will do them when the taco niggers leave and wages can raise to meet minimum wage.
Wow, you really didn't get the sarcasm from that post?
Serious question: If people have been living here for X amount of years illegally, what is preventing them from applying for legal resident status?
Brits don't usually make that bad jokes
>Poor white Americans are more than happy to take a shit job
All those poor whites lined up in front of Home Depot. Not.
Americans demand an actual wage, they arent lazy.
Then why not be mad at the employers for not supporting americans and lessening incentive for illegal immigration?
underrated post
theyll lose gibs
it was subtle and smart sarcasm.
>Americans demand an actual wage, they arent lazy.
Just entitled. The net result is the same.
I should really start studying your tax system. I live in a almost socialist country with high taxes on labour/income. Since those taxes pay mostly for the country to function and exist, If you work illegal you are seen as a parasite. Not as someone who is helping the country. Not paying ALL the taxes you should is here : You are a parasite who lives and uses the things other people pay. That is our "illegal" focus.
rather clumsy for a bong
Seems like ISIS sleeper cell
Belgium has VAT of 21%, so everytime you buy something you are paying taxes.
Many companies exclusively use immigrant labor. If a poor white or black person comes in the resume/application goes in the trash. This is how it works. Mexicans are on the bottom rung. Paid the least and have a high turnover rate and are easy to replace. Their supervisors are usually hired from South American nations such as Peru, Colombia or Chile. These people HATE Mexicans with a passion and are stereotypical slave drivers with a hard cold stare and will FUCK UP any Mexican that gets out of line. Female supervisors are usually the most hard core. That is how it works. If you have a company in a area with no illegals (there are barely any towns like this to be found anymore in the lower 48) the jobs will be filled by American citizens. "Americans won't do the work" is bullshit.
This is actually my fix for illegal immigration. Start fining the fucking out of employers that have illegal help. 2nd offensive is jail time. No job = no money = They go home.
nope, typical British, they always invert or exaggerate a certain issue to make a point.
Like don't get me wrong, illegal immigrants do dodge a lot of taxes, but they don't completely avoid them.
The costs of taxes gets passed onto everybody.
>Mexicans do work for less than minimum wage
>CLEARLY THIS MEANS THEY ONLY TAKE JOBS WE DON'T WANT
Day of the rake can't come soon enough
>I'm so out of touch I think applications aren't done online
It's more along the lines of illegals do the jobs Americans legally can't do.
American Labor laws don't really apply if you aren't American.
l understand and enjoy british humour, but that was more on the edge of seriousness.
Really cringy analysing a joke haha
I really should just stop
>illegals do the jobs the americans dont want
Like voting for Democrats?
>This is actually my fix for illegal immigration
Brilliant, except everybody and their dog thought about it at some point. The problem is that when wages go up, the prices go up and it's not a 1:1 ratio.
aye, let's analyze what he actually said. It's true we had a functioning economy well before cheap Poles and Romanians came in in masses.