Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Jeremiah Parker
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Daniel Brown
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Brandon Davis
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Ethan Brooks
Anyone with questions, feel free to ask.
Jose Green
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Aaron Cooper
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Julian Baker
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Robert Ward
Viva Il Duce!
Kevin Moore
Daily Reminder
Ian Brown
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Noah Cruz
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Oliver Foster
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Brayden Rogers
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Nicholas Myers
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Levi Martinez
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Jeremiah Murphy
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Camden Cruz
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Robert Miller
What did he mean by this?
(No actually I don't get it)
Aiden Mitchell
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John Williams
That fascism is not a surveillance state constantly watching everything you do, it has no concern for the things you do, only the concern of the safety of citizens. Meaning if what you are doing will have an adverse effect on the state, then action will be taken.
Asher Ward
Is it a poor translation, or what? It seems very awkwardly worded. But wouldn't being concerned about the safety of citizens mean it is concerned about the things we do? Who thought this was a good quote to frame?
Adrian Howard
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David Hughes
Its a bit awkward but that's what I'm picking it up as, and yes but being concerned with the safety of the state does not mean constant surveillance, thats never been apart of fascism. It more or less means that when the states safety is threatened, any course of action to stop it will be taken.
Thomas Jackson
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Samuel Parker
How do we achieve an ethno state?
James Gonzalez
BlueDivision, you told me the other day part of your family comes from Spain, how do you cope with the fact that the US has such a prejudice against part of your blood? Are you ever going to leave that country -for any other, not just Spain-?
Colton Rogers
In a country like here in America that'd be an extremely difficult and timely cost, to me achieving a pure white ethnostate here is just not worth the time. But if you were to do it I'd say the best way going about it would be to just pass a law on it or something (assuming you have the power) and deport them all, or are forced to kill the ones that refuse.
Adrian Parker
good thread, thanks for making this
Connor Russell
No I think I will most likely die here, I was born here and love this country as my homeland, while I feel the connection with Spain due to my heritage all I know is american life. I only want the best for this country, and I would be willing to fight for it. But I have never experienced prejudice irl here
Gabriel Robinson
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Jace Howard
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Nathaniel Parker
American ethnonationalist here. The first thing to say is that while 'The Ethnostate' is a vision, a motivation, a light at the end of the tunnel, that's not necessarily what I'm fighting for on the day to day. On the day-to-day, it's about furthering my ideological goals, and helping white people over non-white people.
That said, how do I think we'll achieve an ethnostate? Well first of all, I don't think we can make the whole of America white. It never was, probably won't be. Personally, I'd be happy with first ceasing all non-white immigration, and limit white immigration. Second, incentivize repatriation and expatriation for first, second, and even third generation immigrants. Third, crack down very harshly on not just illegal immigrants, but business that hire them, families that harbor them, and landlords that host them. Fourth, offer incentives for black Americans to relocate within the country to certain areas we could designate as 'Autonomous Black Cultural Districts", in places like the Southeast USA, to hopefully more geographically segregate the nation. Depending on how bad the >60% situation is, we can offer the same thing to whites in different areas. 5) Cut loose the minority white areas (The southwest, California, the ABCDs) as their own countries and go it on our own as a white nation. Sixth, only offer first-class citizenship to multigenerational white Americans. Offer lower forms of residency to others, but make it hard to live, and easy to emigrate.
After all is said and done, we should have a majority of the ex-United States, and a white population well above 95%.
Jace Bennett
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Cameron James
I hope the best for you. I was brought up on the idea of "Spain", and it was a tough one to swallow seeing the hatred that Spain had for me, I don't wish it on anybody.
Zachary Anderson
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Connor Adams
How compatible is the Klan's ideology with fascism?
Brody Sanders
What do you mean? People hated you in your own country? You're ethnically spanish aren't you?
Jayden King
Klan is half FBI agents and half trashy rednecks
Jaxson Lee
Does the Klan even have an ideology other than the belief of white supremacy?
Matthew Perez
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Michael Ward
Well, at least the classical Klan was also for prohibition and supported the idea of the Anglo-Saxon blood of the United States. It also supported the creation of a theocracy within the structure of American democracy (kind of like what Iran has), and was extremely anti-communism.
Caleb Butler
Yes, I am. But Spain doesn't actually exist, and I'm Castilian. The equivalents: >UK - Spain >Scotland - Aragón/Cataluña >England - Castilla Madrid is seen as the Devil here; the origin of everything bad. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that the rest of the country talks about "the orders of Madrid" whenever the government has to do something. Spain hates Spain, and the one nation that gets hate from everybody is Castilla. This is what I mean when I say Spain hates me: we are the origin of every evil, we are the ones who killed León, Galicia, Aragón and are killing Cataluña and Euskadi, we are what's "wrong" with the peninsula.
Benjamin James
Don't let it bring you down too much user, no matter what region you're all European. Infighting is what (((they))) want
Carter Stewart
On a scale of pipe dreaming to delusional how aware are you that none of this is possible?
Chase Wright
Well that version has some similarities, but still not near fascism.
Jace Moore
Yeah, the KKK is very obviously an American invention, but would it be possible for a fascist movement to take on the robes of the Klan without departing too much from its historical ideals? I haven't read up too much on the finer details of fascism yet, sorry.
Noah Perry
Solid pipe-dream, maybe all the way up to ultra-ideological. That said, there are a lot of people that seem very interested in making something along those lines possible. White identity politics in America is going to become a major part of US Politics over the next few decades. I don't know if we'll win, but it's going to be volatile.
Aiden Morris
Ehh, maybe national socialists, but not even them as they would describe the modern KKK as neo nazis and would not want to be associated with that, but a fascist movement most likely wouldn't either. Racialism is not inherent in fascism.
Hudson Brooks
>what region you're all European I don't want to go into that conversation now -I'll check for this thread later-, since I'm heading off to sleep, but no, I'm not European and I am disgusted by the idea that Europe has been pushed into our borders. Castilla is neither Europe nor Africa. The discussion of race of the blacks and the whites is a thing that doesn't concern us. The infighting is not the problem, it's the fact that it's "in". We never should have been one; we must have always been our own nations.
Lucas Nguyen
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Easton Williams
Night user, but I see your point, however I see no point with us fighting over each other now. There's bigger problems at hand that require us to fight it as a whole, not divided.
I appreciate your reasonable and potentially insightful response. I like to think I understand people pretty well, and I don't disagree that white identity politics might be huge over the next few decades.. but I think there's just as much chance that it will be nothing. How old are you? Curious to know if you're just young and idealistic.
Adam Richardson
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Connor Mitchell
Is 'military lolita' approved fashy female fashion?
Parker Thomas
Cute, but she should only be allowed to wear a hat like that when she's alone and mostly naked with her husband.
Jason Miller
Mid-20s, so yes I'm young. Probably idealistic too. But I genuinely can't imagine that the descent of white people from a majority to a plurality to a minority will go unnoticed. Conservatives, even basic ones, are becoming more explicit about the long-implicit whiteness of the GOP. And Democrats are doing the opposite, embracing more staunch racial attitudes. Look at the DNC chairman race, Keith Ellison, a frontrunner, used to be a NOI Black Nationalist, advocating for a black ethnostate. Another candidate is a white woman who just openly said "My job is shutting white people down". Meanwhile you have Tomi Lahren and Tucker Carlson on the right that are getting more racial. This isn't even going into the radicalization efforts of antifa and alt-right types.
It's possible that whites will quietly become a minority. I'm not so sure though.
Jaxon Bell
That is an extremely pretty dress.
Leo Thompson
The girl in the pic makes all her lolita dresses herself
Julian Jones
looks qt and modest, approved
Jackson Flores
I wish women still dressed like this.
Ayden Diaz
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Oliver Richardson
I think it could still make a comeback, we just need to loosen the grip (((they))) have on the women's fashion industry. Make this stuff hip and cool in pop culture, normalise virtues like modesty & effort
Anthony Carter
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Joshua Young
>Meaning if what you are doing will have an adverse effect on the state, then action will be taken.
Wouldnt that require constant surveillance though?
Ryan Cruz
Not necessarily, its pretty arguable that only public actions have any real effect on the state.
Blake Adams
Bump
Liam Thompson
>inb4 larpers start talking about extreme degeneracy policing
I like the subtle Swastika
Nicholas Perry
No, if your actions are enough to effect even at the least the majority of the population or endanger them then it'll be obvious
