Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-7-stalin/
youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g
youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk&t=15s
youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
youtube.com/watch?v=X_EcpFLmUaU
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Starve yourself you godless pinko faggot

Communist has failed dozens of times, lmao read some basic history fags

In an economy built on worker coops, children, retired people, people living with disabilities or illness and others outside the labor force would be sustained from the worker coops' "surplus." The latter comprises what the coop labor force produces above and beyond what it consumes and requires to replace used-up means of production. Adults in and out of the coop labor force would together and democratically determine the sizes and recipients of all the distributions of the surplus. They would decide how much of the surplus would go to expanding production, to provisions for future contingencies, to providing for children, for those in other social institutions, and so on. In place of capitalists (a social minority) distributing the surpluses produced by and appropriated from their employees, a genuine democracy would govern that distribution, much as it governs other worker coop decisions.

Worker coops mark a qualitative and quantitative advance beyond capitalism. They represent a system change adequate to key problems capitalism has shown it cannot overcome, even after centuries of failed efforts to do so.

thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-7-stalin/

youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g

youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM


"Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world, his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years ago" -t Hitler

FUCK OFF COMMIES

IF YOU HAVE YOUR WAY YOU'LL EXTINCT THE HUMAN RACE

FUCK

OFFFFFF

Worker co-ops are capitalist senpai

quick run down for you
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>said to be violent and intimidating in private
>own castles and banks all over the world
>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>own several nuclear plants
>learned fluent French in less than 48 hours
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>own basically every DNA & genetic research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff babies
>rule France with an iron but fair fist
>scientists pointed a telescopic array at the source of the 'bog bang' that created our universe
>this is what they heard: youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk&t=15s
>kept the electric car down for decades so they could release their own car based on string theory to the market
>currently at war with Elon Musk because of this.
>sabotaged his spacex rocket because they will fund the first (the first official one - they've already been to mars many times) manned flight to mars in their own initiative in a few years
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>the big red phone in the Kremlin is a direct line to the Bogdanoff manor
>the last person who missed a call was Mikhail Gorbachov. He resigned and fled the country in fear and the Bogdanoffs destroyed the Soviet Union in a fit of rage
>own nanobot facilities everywhere in the galaxy
>own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>if you're reading this right now, you most likely have BogdabotsTM flowing through your body
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff

Talking of socialism

This you don't know the truth til you take the bog pill.

Daily reminder that communism doesn't work!

gibsmedat: The Ideology

and with all this info out in the open now, there are some who bother with political systems. how sad for (((espana)))

What's with Spanish faggots and communism? kys
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and do what with them?

you poor,broken youths. I feel so sorry for you for believing an indeology you never experienced and that has caused more death and destruction than all other ideologies combined.
Just forgive your father and move on with your life

Post some Zizek

Marxist-Leninist-Squidwardist here
Krusty Krab is borderline slavery

GLORY TO THE REDS!

tell me why communism works. I challange you.

If you Spaniards would stop toying around with socialism, you wouldn't be a third world country buried in debt and unemployment

Smarten up or you're out of Europe

Because humans are a social animal who likes to live in communities and our technology keeps advancing and providing solutions for all the challenges and giving great abundance to all of us.

Spain is as capitalist as UK what are you talking about mate.

Please tell me more o wise leaf

What does that have to do with communism?

To make communism work you need to go back to socialist state comrade.

>technology keeps advancing
this is bad for "real" communism mate

God I really wish more gommies had died during the Spanish civil war. WHY DID YOU NOT FINISH YOUR JOB FRANCO, WHY?

Whats a socialist state? Explain.

A state where the workers control the means of productions , distribution and exchange.

I hope you get raped by a pack of 30 aidsniggers Javier

then why was it never put in practice?

Sounds stupid. Why should a worker be the one who distributes?
You have Managers for that.
And for Accounts, you have Accountants.
A worker hast be everything at once.

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>this is bad for "real" communism mate

Not if the means of production are controlled by the working class

You cant have simple workers be managers also.

how? what the hell do you define working class?

Answer me you fucking faggot
No one cares about your autistic dogma and your fanatical mantra spewing.. 'Means of production !!!' my ass
You're here to entertain us, when people talk to you you answer them. You're tolerated and not welcome, you can expect raids, gore and the like if you act like an autistic moron
faggot

youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI

No, Capital creates wealth independent of Labor
When you centralize Capital in the state, you pit labor and capital against each other democratically
Each advance in technology increases the value of Capital relative to Labor.
A state that exercises direct control over the majority of wealth creation in Capital, will prey on labor and devolve into a totalitarian shithole like every real world application of socialism in the 20th century

Any form of utopian communism must adopt a Luddite Philosophy in order to maintain Labor's position against capital as the primary source of wealth

Dont be a coward and answer my question.

Daily reminder

>expecting this spanish autist to actually debate theory

you seem to like posting shit tier memes than you like answering questions

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OP's a faggot for not answering

Don't you just love it when the only way commutards can take power is through violent revolution, repression and destroying the intelligentsia, and killing the Tsar and his family after abdication too, the violent subhumans.
I swear to G-d, as long as the communist menace haunts our planet, there can not be peace in the hearts of the good and just.

What an asshole seroiusly!
Everyday the same thread, like twice.
Just talks shit and posts stupid pics. No debates.
That guy is in denial.

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution

Get a job you lazy ass

So to implement gommunism, we have to wait until your precious all-creating tech appears?
Why push for it now?

see

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You need global socialism first

>A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance

never happened, in the communist states in practice

>which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common
also never happened, made everyone equally poor, and there was inequallity

>restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution
? then why choose communism if you need to go trough socialism and you get fucked?

We need global security first.

>Being Communist

>Hello Comrades

Only good commie is a dead one

so in order for your system to work everyone in the world has to agree to be communist all at the same time and then super robot slaves need to be invented right after. what are the odds of that happening? 00.00%

Is that because without a violent upheaval and fucking up the general populace with a goddamn Abundance-Cult you won't have people throwing resources into a project that will never succeed?
Why do you base your entire ideology around tech that has pretty much 0% chance of actually being created, since, you know, you'd literally have to pull food and materiel out of your arse to make do for a population huge enough for everyone to just go full hunger-fuelled cannibalism?
Why do you reply with inconsequential and stupid propaganda pics?
Franco didn't finish the job, for fuck's sake.

Where\s the Rothschild ties?

He doesnt do conversations.

>tfw you are completely open to discussion, at least for the potsient-tier lulz
>commies are too scared of other opinions to engage in debate
what the fuck did I participate in debates for

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communist-what did you expect?
That little bitch is doing it everytime.
>Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Its a thread, but no discussion.

>Hello Comrades
cringe

At least the thread didn't get 200 replies, eh?
>how does it feel to have your retarded /leftypol/ shilling fail, spanitard

no discussion, no thread

sage

Hello Comrade

Hi

>being a prol who thinks he is a capitalist

capitalist is a class user, then ideology of a capitalist is called liberalism

Over the last century, capitalism has repeatedly revealed its worst tendencies: instability and inequality. Instances of instability include the Great Depression (1929-1941) and the Great Recession since 2008, plus eleven "downturns" in the US between those two global collapses. Each time, millions lost jobs, misery soared, poverty worsened and massive resources were wasted. Leaders promised that their "reforms" would prevent such instability from recurring. Those promises were not kept. Reforms did not work or did not endure. The system was, and remains, the problem.

Inequality likewise proved to be an inherent trend of capitalism. Only occasionally and temporarily did opposition from its victims stop or reverse it. Income and wealth inequalities have worsened in almost every capitalist country since at least the 1970s. Today we have returned to the huge 19th-century-sized gaps between the richest 1 percent and everyone else. Rescuing the "disappearing middle class" has become every aspiring politician's slogan. Extreme inequality infects all of society as corporations and the rich, to protect their positions, buy the politicians, mass media and other cultural forms that are for sale.

> TL:DR
> Please send food

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

Alright commies, put down the sickle and hammer!

Single file lines behind the bullet trains.

REV UP THOSE CAMPS!

Historian Tony Judt wrote in The New York Times, "The myth of the well-intentioned founders—the good czar Lenin betrayed by his evil heirs—has been laid to rest for good. No one will any longer be able to claim ignorance or uncertainty about the criminal nature of Communism".

Historian Martin Malia, who prefaced the English-language edition of the book described it as "the publishing sensation in France [...] detailing Communism's crimes from Russia in 1917 to Afghanistan in 1989... [The Black Book of Communism] gives a balance sheet of our present knowledge of Communism's human costs, archivally based where possible, and otherwise drawing on the best secondary works, and with due allowance for the difficulties of quantification."

(The Black Book of Communism)

>Alright commies, put down the sickle and hammer!

Never.

youtube.com/watch?v=X_EcpFLmUaU

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