You guys talk about Nazi-ism like it is a good thing. It was literally socialism. There was no difference between German Socialism and Russian Socialism it just had a different name. "Communism" and "National Socialism". Do you idiots not realize what Socialism is? Its where EVERYONE under the sun works for the government and the government provides you with everything you need. You get a meager wage and they TAX the ever living shit out of you... hmmmm wouldn't it be better to have low taxes, and lots of private businesses where families can make good money. Where you can SHOP for a good price as opposed to just one building offering you one service offering you one price? Its called Capatilism you dumb fucks.
Secondly who in the fuck thinks the pink skinned mud hut living nords are the 'master race'? They have literally no contributin to society. If there ever was a so-called master race it would be the northern Mediterranean nations like Italy and France. These places combined have made far more contributions to civilization than fucking Norway or Sweden.
Thirdly, good job getting Donald Trump in. Did you fucking idiots forget about Rand Paul? He was the best option you guys had. This board is nothing but underachieving losers and neckbeards that are mad at the world so they turn to each other in a circle jerk motion "ahhhh we pinkes are the masterrace. We invented planes and shit"
>There was no difference between German Socialism and Russian Socialism There is no Russian socialism.
Jewish socialism abolished religion. German socialism did not. Jewish socialism attempted to destroy hierarchy to put Jews in charge of society. German socialism was for the German people. Jewish socialism abolished ownership of property. German socialism did not.
Capitalism is still superior to either.
Wyatt Edwards
STFU you BTFOd fag.
You cunts where done a long time ago. Now your just a writhing corpse of the liberal party.
Ryder Carter
>Secondly who in the fuck thinks the pink skinned mud hut living nords are the 'master race'? They have literally no contributin to society. If there ever was a so-called master race it would be the northern Mediterranean nations like Italy and France. These places combined have made far more contributions to civilization than fucking Norway or Sweden. It's almost like the mediterranean region is naturaly more suited for human living than Scandinavia and Canada!
Anthony Johnson
/thread
Luis Barnes
Libertarian Capitalist here who thinks all socialists on both sides are faggots.
John Morris
the human animal is a social animal. helping each other out is natural.
Christopher Nelson
>These places combined have made far more contributions to civilization than fucking Norway or Sweden. Said the leaf
Jonathan Wilson
Most useful idiots here havent read Sorel or Le bon or even studied Fascism. Its a muh feelings irrational ideology which gets useful idiots all riled up and then one man convinces them to willingly give up their autonomy and freedom to the state.
Julian Phillips
Okay Olaf...care to explain how Norway was muh more valuable than France and Italy as far as contributing to the world? Go ahead...were waiting you smoked fish eating oil nigger.
James Baker
Fuck off, Jew. Kekekekekeke
Joseph Wilson
>Italy >implying olive oil niggers ever contributed anything to the world
Joshua Smith
Buddy, admit it...you want your government to take care of you rather than live life through a wide array of options and free will. In socialism there is always ever one option.
Colton Baker
>Capitalism is still superior to either.
National Socialism is arguably a much superior system to Capitalism. Capitalism relies on NEEDING new customers and NEEDING more debt. Both of which are quelled by mass immigration because Capitalism doesn't care about who the customers are or who is incurring the debt. This is obviously much less true with actual Capitalism, but we don't have actual Capitalism, we have (((Capitalism))). It's impossible to argue that the (((Capitalism))) we have is true Capitalism when we use a fiat money system. Sort of the same thing as "not real Communism", but at the same time completely different. Mainly because there's no difference between Communism and (((Communism))), but is between Capitalism and (((Capitalism))). The Capitalism we have is Capitalism in name only. Just like how China is red as fuck still, but call themselves a republic.
Liam Myers
National Socialism relied on the military industrial complex and war. Look up the spending policies of the germans in the 30s
Gavin Stewart
>There was no difference between German Socialism and Russian Socialism it just had a different name. "Communism" and "National Socialism".
Aaron Evans
Are you kidding me? In science, music and all facets of engineering Italy has more in their pinky toe than fucking Scandinavia combined. Scandinavia is nothing more than a barren fishing outpost. Why do you think the vikings were a thing?
Connor Gomez
>more valuable than France and Italy as far as contributing to the world? Fuck off with this shit. You have to live it in the present and keep it alive the past is nothing but a reference. Make use of it or let it go.
Hunter Bennett
Nice Jared (((Diamond))) meme
Jacob Peterson
Nasdp socialism didn't prevent private business or private property the way Russian socialism did.
The monetary policy of the two were also completely different. The "socialist" part of nasdp socialism was its monetary policy combined with elements of coporate fascism.
It's monetary policy was a hybrid GDP/labor and trade backed currency rather than a debt backed currency like today, or an asset backed currency like gold standard.
The German treasury issued labor treasury certificates that behaved like gold in that they were redeemable in marks and makes were redeemable in them. They could only be issued for the payment of public works (the autobahn was paid for this way). Meaning the currency, the mark, was backed by the labor gone into the value of the nation. The treasury could balance the economy by purchasing the treasury certificates back with marks or could issue more for the construction of public works. Te socialist part of this was that someone's labor in the building of something that the nation owned was directly represented in their currency's value.
This GDP/labor backed currency catapulted Germany's economy from the poorest in Europe to the 3rd largest in the world in a matter of 4 years.
It's the prime reason the international banking cartel had changed their minds after initially supporting hitler as a socialist, he was freeing the people from perpetual debt slavery.
It took the might of 3 debt backed economies to barely defeat one GDP/labor backed economy... at tremendous cost.
Lincoln Brooks
Much superior....arguably....
There is no argument. National Socialism is a desperation move of a dying nation.
Elijah Collins
Without the past we wouldn't have thos future.You'd still be repelling snownigger invaders and esting turnips in your strawroof hut.
Camden Brooks
Have ypu studied Fascism?
Jackson Watson
>You Guys are SO dumb >Nazi-ism
Adam Rodriguez
The USSR, a backwards peasant nation with shit railroads, mass illiteracy and not prepared for war beat almost singlehandedly an advanced Industrialized nation which amassed a large professional army.
Ethan Ramirez
Capitalism doesn't need debt you fucking autist. Jews do.
Sebastian Morris
"Real" capitalism is far superior to social and communism.
Jonathan Young
TBQHWYF the only country that can really talk everyone down on past achievements is England, pretty much everyone has got shit on those guys, white nationalists are often riding on their coattails pretending they share any of their success which is just not true.
Hunter Roberts
I have. Fascism arose from the rubble of WW1 by socialist movements attempting to stop communism since the economically weakened democracies of Europe werent providing results. Its an ideology of last resort, of frustration and anger.
Christian Williams
The Soviet Russia had been preparing for war for half a decade before Barbarossa. They crushed the parts of Poland they took just as easily as the Germans. Let's not forget the direct import of kit factories from the us to Russia to build on the other side of the Urals and the millions of tons of foodstuffs, ammunition, tanks, weapons, and aircraft from the US and U.K.
It was a concerted effort even before the us declared war
Mason Cook
Thats because the Socialist regime they were living under didn't care about the people. The people are just #'$. When you have a huge population you just take them and throw them into the meat grinder over and over and over again until the other team runs out of fuel and ammunition. There was no strategy, there was no brilliance. Only sheer numbers and a disdain for human life. What a glorious nation....
Brandon Flores
Even Marxists didn't think they're the same thing, you stupid child.
The USSR was not going to be prepared until 1943. Hitler struck when it was weak and didnt even manage to reach Moscow. Point is a shithole like the USSR beat the Germans almost on their own.
Aaron James
Showing the world how to be a multicultural society
Landon Kelly
bravo sir
Juan Perry
More in less than 200 years than you guys have done in 1500+. Thats what happens when your dads are successful nations (england and france).
Go back to your socialist job you fuckin scrub. When things arent going your way you can take a 'sick leave' for 100 years and go back when youare done playing your fallout 4.
Parker Fisher
Ya, the USSR hadn't been building up at all. They didn't even have an army to invade Poland, or Finland. They didn't have enormous imports from other countries. They didn't have a gigantic pool of manpower to throw into the meat grinder. The "advanced" nation wasn't fighting on two major fronts, while being diverted by their incompetent ally's adventures in Africa/Balkans.
Yes, clearly the USSR was very strong, could have beaten anyone on its own!
Levi Collins
You guys are So dumb, like as IF, I mean come ON or whatever.
Henry Wilson
>Implying homogeneous socialism is bad >>Implying fascism isn't mixed market >allowing Shecklestine, owner of Dildo Plant ^tm, to steal 75% of any value your labor produces and then kissing his ass so he pays you the remaining 25%
A FUCKING LEAF
Leo Wood
Vi må alle starte å ignorere leafs, de driver bare med shitposting, har aldri noe valid å komme med
Camden Robinson
>doesn't understand attrition >doesn't understand the situation >doesn't bring up lend-lease or the archangel astrakhan line
Neither Russia nor Germany were ready, they had both been building for half a decade for a major confrontation, but due to the political climate one had to act.
Jason Watson
Poland was a joke and the winter war was ill prepared for. Like I said the Russians didnt have their war economy running properly until 1943
Jace Sanders
Look at most major conflicts throughout history. Its generally not one nation. Its a number of nations and at the very least they will hire mercenaries. USSR had numbers of multiple nations and didn't care if they died or lived. Germany was a small nation with ZERO reliable and effective allies. If western countries like France and England believed in Germanies ideals they would have crushed the USSR.
I am not impressed by the USSR's military at all. They have no strategy, no proper training...just numbers and toys. Thats not an impressive enemy. Thats just alot of people. Noting to learn there.
William Jenkins
Nazism is a different form of capitalist dictatorship. It has nothing socialist in it except for name.
Kevin Nelson
>More in less than 200 years than you guys have done in 1500+. Thats what happens when your dads are successful nations (england and france). Like what? He actually thinks we are socialists, Kek Canadian shitposting is worst shitposting.
Eli Reed
>Abloobloo muh handicaps Russia has always been a military embearassment that could only pick on small eastern European countries. France when it gave a damn about military conquest did far mor damage to Russia than the Germans ever did.
Jaxon Bennett
It's funny you say that because Germany didn't go to a total war economy until 44.
Liam Jenkins
...as Barbara Schektre travels your land to make plans. You have more Somalians than Somalia you fuck.
Ryder Wright
The German economy was militarized by 1939. You cant conduct Operation Barbarossa without years of preparation.
Liam Johnson
Well, now you'll get to study it firsthand, now won't you?
Juan Foster
>implying germany had homogenous socialism Who did die on the fields of WW2? That's right, 13 millions of ordinary germans. Meanwhile fascist chiefs got to rule Western Germany to this very day. Compare to Russia, where all members of communist party enlisted in military including sons of "rulers"
Adrian Richardson
Listen we all know you made Ikea, Saunas and Lego but calm down....eoah wait...you never even did those things. Wtf Bjork. Another butt blasted Norski
Liam Ward
>Go back to your socialist job you fuckin scrub Aka op got no idea what socialism is
Thomas Cooper
If the German people believed in democracy and traditional conservatism instead of falling prey to radicalism the USSR would have been crushed in the 30s
Adam Rodriguez
>doesn't understand total war economy
Militarized doesn't mean total war economy. You don't even know what I'm talking about, it's like talking to a corpse.
Michael Rodriguez
Were getting populist right wing individualism, not Fascism. Big difference since the right nowadays isnt socialist and has adopted 19th century conservative values which were staunchly anti radicalism
William Collins
>He still can't name a single thing invented by Canada And stop trying to shitpost, even Sven is better at it than you guys
Owen Cooper
Yea we get it...you pay 99% of your cheque to ole norski and you get gimme dats.
James Edwards
>It took the might of 3 debt backed economies to barely defeat one GDP/labor backed economy... >implying the Reich was fighting alone wew lad
Luke Mitchell
Ladies first...
Daniel Green
Its about mobilizing the economy for war production. The Germans were doing this in the 30s.They were massing rifles tanks and planes.
Gavin Cox
Just ignore him, he is just a pathetic leaf. Just look at the local time on Ottawa, Vancouver and Quebec its working time there and he spends his time shitposting on an anime imageboard
Thomas Gray
>Germany fighting allied armies of Britain, US, and Russia >Germany fighting two fronts >commie FDR shipping supplies from US to Russia >hurr peasant Russia singlehandedly beat Germany
Oliver Sullivan
shutup
this is the correct direction
everyone will get what they want
pinkies and non pinkies alike
Ryder Gray
Nope, the leaf still got no idea what he is talking about
Nolan Perry
just an example, hitler increased the tax rate to insanely high level ~75% and made private doctors etc. public. this lead to minimum wage for doctors and many left the country before ww2 started.
hitler, stalin, mussolini, all were communist
nazi = national socialist workers party
John Taylor
The allies didnt do much to help the USSR until well after the Russians were on the offensive and taking ground.
Josiah Morales
Capitalism and individualism is cancer. The reason why society is in such a degenerate state is specifically because rampant capitalism is allowed to do as it likes. Mind you, communism isn't much better. That's why there's a Third Way - Nationalism.
Ethan Smith
Nazi-ism in literally about 2.5% of what is discussed here. Just like only 2.5% of muslims are radicalized terrorists. Get it?
You hate us, we hate you. We extended our hand and invited you into our home. You fucked us and now you must perish.
Ryan Johnson
>Capitalism relies on NEEDING new customers and NEEDING more debt no it doesnt. it follows a ctcle of boom and bust and during busts there is LESS debt and customers than there was during a boom
Robert Gutierrez
People still wrongly assume things about nazi party and hitler.
Hitler's policies were closer to merkel's and obongos, trump's policies are the exact opposite.
Logan Thompson
Obviously not, they had a mixed-market, corporatist system based on collective bargaining and social good. Fully socialist economics are not sustainable. Socialistic ones that leave some room for laissez faire capitalism are.
Adrian Sullivan
>either you let capitalists rob you or it doesn't work Sure thing capitalist shill
Logan Hill
As a pure 3rd genetation Italian I second this, we wuz romans and sheit
Camden Allen
You're so fucking dumb. THE REASON Sup Forums LIKES IT IS BECAUSE ITS SOCIALISM
I am against the Nazis because I hate racists sexist homophobes and transphobes. I just like how they had free healthcare and shit.
Also NORDS DEFEATED THE VIKING
Blake Walker
sure
Hunter Johnson
I'm ashamed to be a leaf right now. You're a goddamned fool. >mediterranean master race meme They did foundational work for western civilization, and they were able to do it thanks to a mild climate. God bless the mediterraneans; they are white. But Weimar Germany deserves to be mythologized. In art, philosophy, physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, manufacturing, and warfare, we are living in their (post-)modernity. >lolbertarians gud trump bad You're in cloud cuckoo land. Trump was elected for one reason, and one reason only: He's HIGH ENERGY. I'm not telling you that meme magic did it; meme magic is only one facet or name of the six dimensional object that we sometimes call President Donald Trump, Kek, Dionysus, chaos, the internet, emergent global consciousness, the overman, etc. We're simply NOT PLAYING THE SAME GAME as you people.
Eli Long
Marxism kills economic incentive, you must admit. Fascism--Corporatism--is a happy medium.
Jonathan Russell
A fucking leaf
Justin Howard
>kills economic incentive Because only your master can decide what to produce. Sure, capitalist shill
Hudson Garcia
Weimar Republic was the greatest civilization ever
Camden Bell
That picture is proof socialism works
sure
Hunter Turner
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Kayden Garcia
>only your master Autocratic rule can sometimes be democratic. Leaders like Hitler were, mostly, a mouthpiece and ears for the people and their grievances--the benefit of that over bureaucracy is efficiency. Anyway, we don't need autocracy for proper fascism just a more limited, decisive form of democracy. One that's staunchly market interventionist (in a none-zero-sum way) when it comes to most things, free of corruption (somehow), that subsidizes and protect markets seen as favorable, heavily discourages degeneracy in economy, but also leaves room for some private property.
Christian Adams
Leaf you are retarded, you have no intelligence at all, your first post was enough evidence when you didn't even know what national socialism was. I learned this in fucking 7th grade. Just go back to working retail or making subway sandwiches or whatever it is you do. You are seriously ignorant.
Samuel Davis
Proof that a mixed market works. FDR and the 50s were American-Fascism.
Christian Ross
kys blue pilled fag, don't comment until you know what you're talking about
Wyatt Cruz
Reminder - The nazis are literally commies with style
Carson Gomez
That's simply not true
Nathan Hill
>national >international Huge fucking difference there, leaf. Yeah, yeah, "Socialism in One Country" but this was a heresy against orthodox Marxism. The Soviet Union succeeded precisely to the extent that it was more similar to fascism than the Marxist ideal and failed to the extent that it wasn't.
>meds are the master race 100% true, no disagreement here.
>Rand Paul Pic related
Nathaniel Perry
Sure buddy. Even though FUCK THAT SHIT. I'm Germanic and offednded I also have some Slavic ancestry so stop saying my ancestors are inferior.
Jaxon Campbell
this is what I thought just now and this is what i keep saying but all the AMERICAPITALIKEKS defend
>Capitalism relies on NEEDING new customers and NEEDING more debt. Both of which are quelled by mass immigration because Capitalism doesn't care about who the customers are or who is incurring the debt.
Henry Gutierrez
wow you're very stupid. you have no idea how capitalism works or what a balance sheet is. kys
Parker Sanders
they are
Matthew Ross
ACTUALLYYY
There are no ''northern mediteranean nations'' ;-) it's italy greece and spain. btfo canacuck
Christopher Ward
xxx
Mason Rodriguez
National socialism is the class struggle between countries. Socialism is a class struggle within your country.
You are a stupid person and if the internet were harder to use like it was in the early 90's I wouldn't have to read the malformed proto-ideas that your inadequate brain shits out.
Angel Collins
Are you not understanding that norway has 5 million inhabitants? Our system works becasue its based on that. As you can see, we continuously change how the country works in line with the rise in population. Get some shitposting lessons from Australia