If we enact a tariff on Mexico then they raise their prices 20% so that it ends up being a burden on American consumers. Nope, you laissez faire fucktards.
Higher prices will result in lower demand. Mexico will soon be exporting less, hurting their economy. Also, Businesses wont want to move/invest there. Mexico may save 15b in the short term, but will lose hundred of billions in the long run.
Whats stopping them from buckling? Their current president only has 12% approval rating and paying for the wall would drop that down to 0 because mexicans can't into econ 101. Not to mention Mexico's greatest ally in saving their asses is our own dipshit free trade neocon fucks (both parties) that will try to stop Trump.
who the fuck needs anything from mexico anyways? watermelons? mangos? auto glass?
Christopher Anderson
You underestimate national pride friendo
Samuel Ross
Avocados from Mexico
Carson Smith
>If we enact a tariff on Mexico then they raise their prices 20% so that it ends up being a burden on American consumers.
it also ends up no longer being competitive with market prices of goods made anywhere outside mexico, forcing them to eat at least a portion of the tax increase
Benjamin Moore
yeah i guess mexicans would take pride in sending their criminals to us since they don't have the money to incarcerate them. Pretty smart of them.
Alexander Long
Also, if youre not a simplistic moron, you understand its not simply about hurting Mexico, a zero sum game. Hurting mexico doesnt help us and we are also hurting ourselves. Hurting Mexico actually hurts us, especially in this spiteful, totally mean spirited way. We lose geopolitical good will with our next door neighbor.
Jack Jenkins
Mexico is that scumbag neighbor that flicks cigarette butts on your side of the fence, and lets its shitty little dog to shit in your yard. Build that wall El Trumpo!
Michael Reed
My friend, the Chinese just bought a years worth of steel production from Monterrey companies and those avocados the US turned away are going towards Chinese "beauty products" China is taking advantage of the situation so hope there's some plan in place for that
Elijah Richardson
Yeah, the plan is to let China just take over Mexico completely because it's not like they could run it any worse.
Luis Gutierrez
Trump keeps this up and we'll have chinese military bases in Baja
Joseph Lewis
You would know huh! Anyways, anything just to spite the US
Aaron Sanders
Don't the Russians have some in Cuba? Not that it matters too much anymore
Jayden Allen
Mexico *wishes* there was a country out there willing to annex it's worthless ass.
Carter Green
I dunno. Even if they do, it eouldnt be good for US interests if Mexico is totally pissed off at us to court another global powerhouse to be their partner. Particularly because theyre our next door neighbor
Luis Gray
I don't think protectionism hurts a country. I'm all for free trade but you can't outsource housing. It basically makes goods more expensive and higher wages for domestic jobs. However, i would never want a tariff on food/cloths.
Grayson Hernandez
What does such a corrupt shithole have to be proud of?
Luis Richardson
Tacos are bretty gud. I also like salsa
Dominic Russell
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Benjamin Perez
>'merica has to pay for the wall wtf i love Trump now
Anthony Nguyen
This would be something actually good, all though just a dream
Evan Anderson
>oh I guess I'll just pay 20% more for this thing so I can get it from mexico
said no one ever. mexico is fucked
Evan Flores
>goods more expensive For all americans >jobs For a very small percentage of is burgers. Its gib me dats for the working class
Julian Ortiz
the last time a powerhouse courted mexico as a partner it was germany
Christopher Watson
How can we lose geopolitical "good will" when we had none to begin with. They send us their criminals, their cheap labor, and their cheap shit products, and we sent them free money. Good will my asshole.
We have one demand: give us money for the wall so YOUR criminals stop flooding our country. If they don't want to play ball, we will extract the money from tariffs. We are getting our money, it's up to Mexico whether they want to do it the easy way or the hard way.
Ryder Gonzalez
You serious. We cant even get the train line connecting DC-Baltimore-Philly-NY-Boston to be profitable. A train on the wall would be totally retarded
Jayden Nguyen
:^) Pay wall burger
Leo Wood
This whole situation is really lit, it's almost just a week since trump became president and everybody at national news are fucking scared shitless. I hope we can figure out a way out of this tension, it's starting to get pretty heated up.
William Williams
Thats total garbage. Mexico doesnt 'send' anyone. >Free money Wut?
Brayden Jackson
We'll now it's China and not because they care about Mexico but because they just want more land to pollute
Jose Cruz
Welcome to our last 18 months.
As long as your riot police are up to the job, I'd say you've got way more to worry about from the cartels than the left wing idiots.
Andrew Reed
I was talking about full blown protectionism. One tariff on mexico wouldn't be noticeable for 99% of people.
Jacob Sanders
The Mexican government would rather watch their economy collapse and their country burn than pay for a wall.
Connor Rodriguez
>I don't think protectionism hurts a country I'm glad all of you people who have completely misinformed thoughts like this got out to vote. Now we can all pay more for pretty much everything. Pick up an economics book you braindead fuck.
Caleb Reed
You'll notice when you go to buy a car. Unless you buy European car made in Europe or asian car made in asia
Nathan Turner
Buy american, asshole.
Nicholas Jenkins
drugs and rape
Angel King
Everybody is just used to these "cartels" by now, the new national threat is your president lol. It's the usual Mexican news to draw attention to something else. Just a few weeks ago a ex-governor from some shit state escaped the country with fucking hundreds of millions of mxn pesos and nobody knows where the fuck is he now. But they don't even mention it on the news everything is just "TRUMP. WALL. AVOCADOS". For fucks sake. Also "cartels" have been pretty quit these last months too. There hasn't been a lot of murders too. And i live in one of the top 3 most dangerous states lol. Nobody even cares or bats an eye at fucking murder or drug related stuff by now.
Samuel Robinson
I'll survive without guac. I don't eat that shit anyways since Yeb tried to shill his bowls. He made me so sick I can't even look at a guac bowl. Sad!
Carter Bell
You do realize the supply chain for murrican manufacturing is cheaper when we have free trade with mexico. Even if we move the industry back, it will still be more expensive than it was in mexico. For both domestic sales and for our exports. Murrican companies will lose market share EVERYWHERE
Wyatt Wood
The timing in this was the fucking worst. Our oil industry wants to separate from our government and the opec deal just shat on it making oil cheap worthless
Not to mention we are in civil war since 2006
If things go south this could escalate to a revolution AGAIN (Have no fucking doubt that they will do it, we have to have at least on of those, is like a tradition or something. the last time was in 94 with the zapatistas)
Carson Allen
>buy american Even with tariffs foreign goods will be cheaper. American goods using Mexican imports will cost more. So not only will I and everyone else still not buy American, we'll buy less non-American AND less American.
Don't you think if it was as easy as "just make their goods cost more!" we would have done it already?
Noah Smith
Of course Mexico doesn't officially send them, but they sure as shit don't stop them. The US doesn't let wanted felons just waltz over the US-Canadian border to cause havoc up North, because we are DECENT FUCKING NEIGHBORS. Mexico is too poor, corrupt, incompetent, or all of the above to stop their undesirables from crossing up North. Don't play fucking dumb, they KNOW their criminals flee up North and they let them because it just means less expenses for them.
Also, the US Federal government just gives away an average of $300 million to Mexico every year, no strings attached. Just gives US taxpayer money away. We give them free money, and in exchange they shit on us at the border. I'm not Canadian, I don't see being fucked over as an act of good will.
Jacob Adams
They do stop them. They catch twice as many as we do at the border
Colton Ross
EPN should talk about how Americans and Mexicans are friends, as evidenced by Trump losing by three million votes
Carter Sanders
I never said put the tariff on car businesses. However, if we did Mexico would be sooo fucked. Good way to bring manufacturing back to America.
Gabriel Martin
And i think those funds are to bolster their drug and illegal immigration because theyre poorer than we are and is money well spent for us
Julian James
Yes, on their Southern border.
Tyler Perry
what the fuck do you mean mexico doesn't send anyone? mexico's biggest money making industry is remittance sent from illegal workers in the usa. mexico leeches more than 50,000,000,000 out of our economy every single year
Ayden Morales
EPN is at a point where he's only looking to secure his future, he could not care less about what Trump does or doesn't do
Jose Price
You are right. According to the state department, a slim majority of the money sent is for "democracy, humanitarian aid, and security."
Judging from the fact that cartels run half the country and, as put it, the other half is run by insanely corrupt shitheads, I'd say the billions of dollars sent has been a complete and utter waste that has accomplished nothing.
Luis Long
Their government doesn't send anyone. People leave mexico to cone to the Us on their own free will. You are punishing the mexicans that DIDNT illegally immigrate to the US with the policies you are advocating for.
Robert Howard
Seriously i wouldn't be fucking surprised if he just fucking quitted being president and fucking escaped the country with thousands of millions any day now.
Aaron Jackson
All politicians are narcissists, it's silly to assume that in a situation with no good choices he won't be playing for his legacy
Jack Lewis
Dude fresh Mexican mangos are amazing!
Bentley Walker
Ya but they don't officially send people across the border illegally. They play dumb and pretend it doesn't happen so retards like him can say it doesn't happen while Mexico reaps the benefits.
The US has been Mexicos welfare state for decades now, and now that we want something in return Mexico is getting their collective panties in a knot.
Gavin Ramirez
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Sebastian Anderson
Dude, la gaviota just set up her pad somewhere in Florida, he's doing the same for sure
Tyler Taylor
Art of the Deal, you fucking pleb. It's been almost two years, and still no one seems to understand how he operates.
Leo Thompson
The taco speaks
Noah Davis
>If we enact a tariff on Mexico then they raise their prices 20%
Why would you even think that would be the case?
When did Sup Forums become so economically illiterate? >used to be a bunch goybertarians who thought the gold standard was a good idea Okay, I guess Sup Forums's always been shit in this regard.
Dominic Cook
Reminder that if you seriously doubt Trump or meme magic at this point, you are retarded. Trump doesn't know how to fail
>Trump will never run for president >Trump will never get more than 4% >Trump will never make it to the debates >Trump will never get more than 30% >Trump will drop out before Iowa >Trump will never win a primary >Trump will never get over a ceiling of 40% >Trump will never get to 1237 >Trump will never be the Republican Nominee >Trump will never get over 39% in the general election polls >Trump will never survive the woman and minority vote being 'With Her' >Trump will never be President of the United States of America >Trump will not build the wall -------------------->You Are Here >Mexico will not pay for the wall >Trump will not repeal Obamacare >Trump will not fill 3 Supreme Court Justice Seats >Trump will not see 6% GDP growth >Trump will not Make America Great Again >Trump will not win Re-Election >Trump will not Make Europe Great Again >Trump will not build a Moon Base >Trump will not lead the colonization efforts of Mars >Trump will not become the God Emperor of Mankind
Jayden Young
yeah over 100 countries use tariffs because they want to watch their people burn.
William Miller
>implying Trump wrote that book
It has been firmly established it was written by a ghost writer. Trump does not even show the most basic skills in negotiation. He made a threat and when Mexico called his bluff he has nothing. He wont get congress to approve a restructure of NAFTA to enact the tariff.
Trump is all bluster, no substance. He is nothing but a persona that has been possessed by his shadow without any depth to his ego.
Cameron Sanchez
you can buy/grow avocados here, t. mexican
Adrian Williams
>It has been firmly established it was written by a ghost writer. Trump does not even show the most basic skills in negotiation. He made a threat and when Mexico called his bluff he has nothing. He wont get congress to approve a restructure of NAFTA to enact the tariff.
Trump is all bluster, no substance. He is nothing but a persona that has been possessed by his shadow without any depth to his ego.
This is now copypasta
Brody Hall
>tariffs aren't a tax on consumers I hope you're trolling.
Chase Miller
Is there any sort of proof that shit happens? Meanwhile criminals here go to mexico all the time to buy drugs or escape US law
Parker Wilson
Seriously, you're laissez faire there looks stupid. Makes zero sense
Hudson Hernandez
OP is right. Demand will change, as in some shit will be too expensive for us to buy.
I don't see what the big deal is. I like tacos too. And salsa. And chili peppers. And avocados. Plus tequila. And cheaper products because of cheaper labor.
Jonathan Hall
>gold standard >shit Bernanke quit shitposting on Sup Forums.
Zachary Ortiz
I don't want to be premature, but I think Mexican avocados are the next big meme. Get in on the ground floor friends. Or is this Jebs master plan?
Anthony Gonzalez
And also, its been my experience when travelling to mexico that US tourists shit all over Mexico constantly. That would annoy the shit out of me if i was mexican.
Jacob Barnes
I hope to God he doesn't drive this country into a downward spiral. Shit was just starting to get better.
Anthony Parker
And what the fuck is the insanity that we put a tariff on OUR EXPORTS but not our imports?
Lincoln Lewis
absolutely right either they bend the knee and their citizens revolt out of pride and stupidity, or they cave under economic war and they revolt out of pride and stupidity
Blake Turner
F U C K S P I C S
Aaron Hill
>mfw no more fucking made in Mexico tags >mfw almost no more made in china tags.
MAGA my niggas.
Leo Cruz
That 1915 one is worth noting. "Liberating army of races and peoples". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_of_San_Diego If people doubt that other races wouldn't mind wiping out white people, or at least white men, it was literally the plan 100 years ago.
It was a bunch of two bit retards but it's a good reminder that if there's ever a civil war scenario in the American South-West you will see some trying to ethnically cleanse white people.
Kayden Morgan
Beaner Machismo. These spics will beat their little brown chests and happily destroy any economy they have left just to spite us for being "racist"
Charles Wilson
Fucking checked. Noice.
Ethan King
Maybe the Trumpanzees will understand an example better. So my experience with Mexican business dealing is this. I work at a juice bottling company. We buy lime juice, orange juice, papaya and mango juice from mexico. The alternative sources for these insignficant quality/quantity are much more expensive. So we will pay more for them and raise our prices to grocery stores, who will in turn raise the price to you, the consumer.
Now, we also sell some juice into Mexico, prolly around $50 million per year. Not much really. But that business will totally dry up because we operate on less than 20% margins. This will make the relevence of our facility in texas very questionable. About 15 people work there. Those jobs are now on shaky ground.
Josiah Hernandez
>implying leftiest won't buy mexican shit to support diversity.
BUILD IT BURGERS
Dominic Gonzalez
Guess where they're going after that happens, that's right, your doorstep
Tyler Garcia
What's to stop Mexico from removing any seizable asset of theirs within the US, then seizing US government assets, bank accounts, etc. within Mexican territory?
Face it if we start shit with Mexico we're going to lose. They mass produce Montezuma's Revenge. I don't want to risk turning the national anthem into the Shit Spangled Banner.
Easton Cooper
look for "la bestia" its a train that goes across the country filled with migrants that then are helped to get to the US
Eli Cooper
just grow your own mango ,faggit
Nolan Taylor
No its not, your people are completely scattered to corruption and wars. You're just watching a box on the wall and screeching while running from side to side in your cage. Not you personally or your nation in particular either.
Easton Hill
the fact that you could turn us into a dessert where not even lizards can live for the next 1000 years while all we have ar e shitty jets from the 90s
Tyler Rodriguez
Trump will save their jobs.
Make American juice for Americans.
Evan Smith
You guys seem to have a solid grasp of the issues
Brayden Clark
Will liberals boycott Mexican goods so they don't send funds to the wall? But then that'll be bad for Mexican businesses
Jackson Russell
t. Pedro
Joshua Johnson
I think you mean my wallstep ;) we aint letting those fuckers in.
Nicholas Cooper
leftist traitors paying for the wall is just as good as mexicans
Nicholas Lee
Not having to hear for a month about the wonders of peanutbutter and the wonders of your KANGZ, anyway go suck tyrone off.
Mason Walker
I OFFICIALLY DECLARE MANGOS TO BE MAGAS
Matthew Howard
Look at the size of his hands next to Vincenziocho
Aiden Phillips
It is my humble opinion that any country not capable of waging war on a 1st world power, should be neo-colonized and repopulated by whites.
Austin Baker
If tariffs are more expensive to consumers because they just add the rate to their price then wouldn't your company just raise your prices by 20% Although your demand would probably go down.