'Nam

>U.S. dead- 58,000
>Commie Vietnamese dead- 1,000,000+

Remind me again why the Vietnam War was a "failure" for the US again, Sup Forums?

>Donald Drumpf votes: 63m
>Hillary votes: 66m

Remind me again why Hillary didn't win the presidency?

Because you did get nothing ou of it. The Vietnamese lost more men, true, but they gained their freedom. What did the US gain? Hippy culture. Was it worth it?

Electoral College

Cry more about the US election system, your tears are very appetizing

Because that's not how the US electoral system works, are you guys the new CTR or what?

It layed the foundation for the counter-culture movement and the birth of the modern Democrat party.

>German dead: 5,533,000
>Soviet dead: 11,000,000

Remind me again why the Second World War was a "failure" for the Germans again Sup Forums?

we kept communism contained in Indochina.

Because fuck California. Hoping for the mega quake on San Andread faultline. Let it fall like Atlantis. Kek make it so. The sodomites have gone too far.

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>doesn't get the analogy

Yeah that worked out so fucking great for you

Because the pussy ass Leftists and Liberals protested for five years and helped the Communists undermined society while the real men were fighting.

We killed more than you did in the American Revolution so welcome back

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>fags still shilling with a proxy

kill yourself loser. its over, and you lost.

disease did the most of the killing, m8

It was a leftist who put you in there and Richard Nixon who pulled you out, so explain that one.

Your military failed at everything it claimed to be able to do and didn't properly recover until the First Gulf war.

>butthurt the post

>U.S.S.R. Dead- 15,000
>Afghani pushtun USA bitches dead- 1,000,000+

Remind me again why the Afghani War was a "failure" for the USSR again, Sup Forums?

if we hadn't fought in Vietnam, we would have been fighting in Indonesia, much more important to US interests, and it would have been ten times worse than Nam

Because winning a war is about achieving objectives

>we contained Communism in Indochina

Hahahaha please fag

Laos and Cambodia fell to dictatorships with believing the suits about why Americans were in Vietnam.

Considering the Vietnamese body count this was more of a genocide than a war amirite??

>Remind me again why the Vietnam War was a "failure" for the US again, Sup Forums?
Because US failed to achieve their military and political objectives. Their puppet state lost, their puppets were executed and Vietman people got to live freely and rule their own country.

Do I detected a fresh meme?

Shut up cyka

The only post worth a damn.

Small correction: North Vietnam lost 35 million people

Hahaha keep getting your throat slit, Igor

The US objective was literally to kill them. Kill as many as possible. I'd say it was achieved.

I thought I read somewhere that if we had just pushed on the west would have won completely. Can't remember where I saw it but from what I read the cong were very close to breaking before we pulled out. I'm not even trying to short the vietnamese at all. But I think the Vietcong were about to get BTFO until we pulled out.
not that it matters. Vietnam and the US are very close these days.

>Germans and friends dead 4,000,000+
>Allied troops 5,000,000+
Remind me again why the First World War was a failure for Germany again, Sup Forums?

Because you lost the war

Because wars aren't won or lost depending on who kills the most, this isn't CoD. You lost you war objectives and ran home to your island, humiliated, while North Vietnam bode their time and accomplished every objective they had.

You don't fight a 2 front war. Germany got forced anal and oral.

>USA
>Island

Swedish education?

No, the objective from the US POV was to stabilize South Vietnam and to push other regimes into power (Lon Nol's Khmer Republic) to isolate UdSSR backed socialism in SEA. It failed. Lon Nol was overthrown as was the South Vietnam Republic, in the end the People's Republic of Vietnam did not only control Vietnam but Laos and the People's Republic of Kampuchea.

>k/d ratio doesn't matter
tell it to this guy

>Germans and friends dead 5,400,000+
>Russians Dead 11,300,000+

Remind me again how The Eastern Front was a failure for Germany

F

Vietnam was a strategic defeat for America.

Sure, the Viet Cong may have took more losses but at the end of the day, South Vietnam fell and the communists took over.

If American public opinion didn't turn against the war then maybe America would have won in the end but I think it would have lasted until at least the end of the 80s.

>58,000 dead US service men

there's your answer

>japanese dead 3 million
>allies dead 30 million

>japanese """"""""""""""loss"""""""""""""""